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re: Say the guy ends up being Johnson from Arizona
Posted on 6/22/21 at 9:08 am to latigerfan2
Posted on 6/22/21 at 9:08 am to latigerfan2
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Tennessee tried a similar hire several years ago with the Fullerton coach, and they were terrible
Dave Serrano?
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Posted on 6/22/21 at 9:52 am to Big4SALTbro
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Johnson is more likely to have success here, but his three down seasons after the title are concerning. LSU is not a place where that is acceptable.
He could do very well at LSU and I certainly hope he does if he’s indeed the choice.
But if he replicated those first 4 Arizona years at LSU, I think there’s a good chance he would be fired here.
We fired Smoke after:
-Super
-CWS
-CWS
-regional
-didn’t make tourney
This post was edited on 6/22/21 at 9:55 am
Posted on 6/22/21 at 10:22 am to Draconian Sanctions
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Plenty of coaches have moved to a new region and been successful, it’s a tired/lazy argument against a guy.
I agree. There is nothing challenging about the Southeast. If the guy is good, he's good!
Posted on 6/22/21 at 10:30 am to JPLSU1981
If PM made the Supers with the crap he put together this year, I’m certain Johnson will be more than fine. We made it to the Supers with half the lineup hitting under .250 and nothing resembling reliable relief pitching.
Johnson will do amazing things here. LSU will recruit itself once excitement is brought back to the program.
Johnson will do amazing things here. LSU will recruit itself once excitement is brought back to the program.
Posted on 6/22/21 at 10:35 am to JPLSU1981
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We fired Smoke after:
-Super
-CWS
-CWS
-regional
-didn’t make tourney
Smoke was a lazy motherfricker that clearly wasn't able to keep the Skip program from going off the tracks. There was more to it than just postseason results. The trend was bad, recruiting was bad (no one was making it to campus), and he had an aura of DGAF that rubbed people wrong.
Also didn't help him that he immediately followed Skip and baseball parity was beginning to really become a thing.
As it pertains to Johnson, I believe a couple knowledgeable posters have said he took over a program heavily reliant on JUCO talent and he lost his roster after year 1 and basically had to rebuild from nothing and in year 3-4 he had done so in fantastic fashion. His roster this year is all his and is VERY formidable.
This post was edited on 6/22/21 at 10:37 am
Posted on 6/22/21 at 10:41 am to WestSideTiger
My guess is vitello either said wait or no to woodward and he is pivoting to johnson.
Posted on 6/22/21 at 10:54 am to SemiNoblePursuit
He’s young, has a huge upside, and you definitely anticipate what he could do with LSU’s recruiting, resources, and fan support.
And the way his teams hit would have me pretty excited.
And the way his teams hit would have me pretty excited.
Posted on 6/22/21 at 11:00 am to timlan2057
Yeah I’m not really understanding not liking Johnson and assuming Vitello is can’t miss by some.
Both seem to be young with tons of upside and can recruit well.
I’m fine with either
Both seem to be young with tons of upside and can recruit well.
I’m fine with either
Posted on 6/22/21 at 11:09 am to BilJ
Yep. They both carry some small risk. If all else is even ill take vitello because of his sec experience. But johnson would still be a good hire with similar risks
Posted on 6/22/21 at 11:17 am to josh336
Well Vitello would cost substantially more if you find out you fricked up
Posted on 6/22/21 at 11:21 am to BilJ
Some more probably. Think johnson is making right under a mil right now. So we would probably offer 1.5. So yeah thats a risk, but i really dont see tony failing
Posted on 6/22/21 at 11:37 am to BilJ
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Yeah I’m not really understanding not liking Johnson and assuming Vitello is can’t miss by some. Both seem to be young with tons of upside and can recruit well. I’m fine with either
Hey, you get me one of these seven and I’m thrilled (not in any order of preference):
Vitello, Johnson, O’Connor, O’Donnell, Godwin, Bakich, Corbin.
And I think most every LSU baseball fan would be thrilled with one of at least several of these.
And SURELY our next baseball coach is among these seven.
This post was edited on 6/22/21 at 12:33 pm
Posted on 6/22/21 at 11:55 am to timlan2057
I'm surprised Bakich's name hasn't really come up
Posted on 6/22/21 at 11:57 am to CatfishJohn
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Smoke was a lazy motherfricker that clearly wasn't able to keep the Skip program from going off the tracks. There was more to it than just postseason results. The trend was bad, recruiting was bad (no one was making it to campus), and he had an aura of DGAF that rubbed people wrong.
All of this.
Posted on 6/22/21 at 12:04 pm to josh336
I said between now and 2016.
Posted on 6/22/21 at 12:09 pm to DiamondDog
Since I have no idea, please enlighten me with all of the difficulties and factors behind only making only one regional since their CWS runner-up finish in 2016.
I wasn't talking about PM, you are. I was talking about a potential new hire.
I wasn't talking about PM, you are. I was talking about a potential new hire.
Posted on 6/22/21 at 12:16 pm to CatfishJohn
Ok. Not arguing that. He is west coast all of his life. Again, he has lived his entire life on the west coast and the only jobs he has had are the west coast. His entire roster is nothing but west coast guys with the exception of a kid from FL, one from TX and one from VA. Do you think he can recruit SE effectively?
Posted on 6/22/21 at 12:23 pm to Le Tenia
Nope
Posted on 6/22/21 at 12:32 pm to SemiNoblePursuit
Looks like a west coast lifer. I’d rather look at some other guys before him.
Posted on 6/22/21 at 12:36 pm to Le Tenia
The LSU brand will always carry enough weight within the region. The questions about his recruiting would be more about how he manages the 11.7 when most of his top shelf talent will come from out of state, and can he take the brand national to land difference makers? Some of the best players in our incoming class and commitments in the next class are from Colorado, Iowa, Kansas, Missouri, Michigan, New York, and Pennsylvania. And if you look around the conference all of the top teams have guys from cold weather states, it’s the next frontier. Plus we’re already plucking some West coast guys anyway so his connections to programs and jucos out there won’t go to waste.
From interviews I’ve watched and articles I’ve read I don’t think those things would be a problem for him, I just like Vitello a little more since he’s already doing it within the conference. Johnson’s hitting coach seems like he could be a difference maker and would be a 180 from Mainieri’s approach over the last decade.
ETA: I would also have him behind McDonnell and a couple others, but I think it would be a more exciting hire than some of the “resume guys” that have been thrown out there.
From interviews I’ve watched and articles I’ve read I don’t think those things would be a problem for him, I just like Vitello a little more since he’s already doing it within the conference. Johnson’s hitting coach seems like he could be a difference maker and would be a 180 from Mainieri’s approach over the last decade.
ETA: I would also have him behind McDonnell and a couple others, but I think it would be a more exciting hire than some of the “resume guys” that have been thrown out there.
This post was edited on 6/22/21 at 12:39 pm
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