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re: Saw a former player say that LSU Football is not tough

Posted on 11/11/24 at 7:52 pm to
Posted by themunch
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Posted on 11/11/24 at 7:52 pm to
I don’t think Toughness is the issue

Well, that's your opinion man.
Posted by bobbydigital
New Orleans
Member since Oct 2020
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Posted on 11/11/24 at 7:58 pm to
My good friend's cousin is the RB for Nicholls. He told him LSU was the softest defense he's played this year.
Posted by lsu711
Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 11/11/24 at 8:05 pm to
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My good friend's cousin is the RB for Nicholls. He told him LSU was the softest defense he's played this year.

That’s one way to be sure your friends and family never believe a word out of your mouth.
Posted by bobbydigital
New Orleans
Member since Oct 2020
351 posts
Posted on 11/11/24 at 8:09 pm to
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That’s one way to be sure your friends and family never believe a word out of your mouth


Believe what you want. Go look at Guggenheim's game stats.
Posted by Bayoubengal205
Member since Nov 2016
1190 posts
Posted on 11/11/24 at 8:14 pm to
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and he pointed squarely at Kelly and how he leads the program. His demeanor. How he comes off.

I’ve been saying this since last year, but especially this year it’s become very evident.
Brian Kelly is soft. He does not have what it takes to coach a prestigious football program in the SEC.
I have completely lost faith in Brian Kelly’s ability to turn LSU into a power house program.
Idc about 10 wins, when he loses all the games that matter the most.
Worst part is, Notre Dame fans warned us of this very thing.
If you go back and watch some of his post game press conferences from big games he lost at Notre Dame he sounds like the same broken record we have grown accustomed to hearing after a big loss at LSU.

He is so used to losing big games, he doesn’t even look surprised during or after it happens.
Absolutely infuriating.
I hate it for the fans, and even more so for the players.
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 11/11/24 at 8:17 pm to
Penn isn’t a bad player because he isn’t tough.

he’s fricking slow.

When we leave running backs open out of the back field or all 11 players go with the RB on an options play that’s not a toughness issue
Posted by SligoTiger
South of I-10
Member since Jun 2023
194 posts
Posted on 11/11/24 at 8:21 pm to
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That didn’t translate to many wins for LSU. The tough guys lost 58-3 to Florida in Tiger Stadium. 44-3 to Miami. 42-3 to Florida State.


Understood. You need a head coach who knows how to handle those kind of guys.

Think about Saban. Those 2000-2004 LSU teams had some hard dudes. He kept them focused and productive. I would argue that his dynasty run at Alabama started the moment he figured out how to handle Rolando McLain, who was a freaking psychopath.
Posted by Fast Times @ LSU
Camas
Member since Jan 2005
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Posted on 11/11/24 at 9:26 pm to
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So we want to go back to the worst decade of LSU football history?


What a stupid take.

You think this team has good culture?
Posted by Fast Times @ LSU
Camas
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Posted on 11/11/24 at 9:47 pm to
LSU has a culture problem. Period. That culture problem begins and ends with Brian Kelly. Full stop.

LSU football has talent deficiencies, technique & scheme issues. You can overcome some of these issues if you have the right culture. LSU doesn’t. It’s not even a debate.
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
78197 posts
Posted on 11/11/24 at 9:49 pm to
again, unless culture is gonna make Penn Faster or our safeties not suck, I disagree.
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 11/11/24 at 9:49 pm to
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What a stupid take.

You think this team has good culture?

Definitely better than the shite product in the 90s
Posted by Fast Times @ LSU
Camas
Member since Jan 2005
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Posted on 11/11/24 at 9:50 pm to
You’ve made your point repeated that you don’t understand.
Posted by Fast Times @ LSU
Camas
Member since Jan 2005
2063 posts
Posted on 11/11/24 at 9:53 pm to
Even DiNardo was 10-2 in 1996, which is better than Kelly’s 2024.

That this team has a culture problem isn’t even a debate.
Posted by Sofaking2
Member since Apr 2023
19396 posts
Posted on 11/11/24 at 9:54 pm to
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in the 1980s and 1990s... Louisiana had guys like Michael Brooks, Michael Calais, Gabe Northern... just to name a few. we need some of that old school toughness in this team because it's lacking.

90s LSU football players mostly sucked. The teams(majority) were soft and awful.
1990: 5–6
1991: 5–6
1992: 2–9
1993: 5–6
1994: 4–7
1995: 7–4–1 (Independence Bowl, tie vs. Michigan State)
1996: 10–2 (Peach Bowl, win vs. Clemson)
1997: 9–3 (Independence Bowl, win vs. Notre Dame)
1998: 4–7
1999: 3–8
Overall, LSU’s record for the 1990s was 54–63–1.
This post was edited on 11/11/24 at 9:57 pm
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
66545 posts
Posted on 11/11/24 at 9:54 pm to
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That this team has a culture problem isn’t even a debate.


What's the culture problem?
Posted by Lsustev
Member since Aug 2022
109 posts
Posted on 11/11/24 at 9:59 pm to
On the defensive front 7, I saw a bunch of players playing NBA defense. They were acting like the were doing something but really not doing anything or initiating contact.

Plus, 3 turnovers by Nuss, the gutless play calling on offense (playing for fieldgoal and not even trying to score before halftime) and our defense not doing anything different from last year, pretty much led to the abortion we witnessed Saturday night.
Posted by Fast Times @ LSU
Camas
Member since Jan 2005
2063 posts
Posted on 11/11/24 at 10:02 pm to
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90s LSU football players mostly sucked. The teams(majority) were soft and awful.


Alan Faneca, Kevin Faulk, Booger McFarland, Michael Calais, Gabe Northern, David LaFluer, etc

Curly Hallman was an idiot, but there were some exceptional players in the 1990s. By your answer, I know you never spent a day on the Ponderosa.
Posted by Fast Times @ LSU
Camas
Member since Jan 2005
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Posted on 11/11/24 at 10:03 pm to
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Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
66545 posts
Posted on 11/11/24 at 10:03 pm to
You keep saying there's a culture problem and that it isn't debatable, what is the specific issue?
Posted by Fast Times @ LSU
Camas
Member since Jan 2005
2063 posts
Posted on 11/11/24 at 10:06 pm to
If you read this whole thread, watched any recent LSU game and you can’t figure that out, I can’t help you. Good luck. You need it.
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