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re: Samford Catcher Tyler McManus (.345, 11 HRs, 53 RBIs in 2020) Transfers To LSU!!!
Posted on 7/8/21 at 9:00 am to ell_13
Posted on 7/8/21 at 9:00 am to ell_13
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You’re trying to say talent isn’t involved and it’s all about hard work or not being lazy.
Not at all but the level of talent that should be at a Division 1 school, especially at a program like LSU, their catchers should be moderately capable, however you want to define it, behind the plate.
At this level, if you’re recruited, it should not be some remarkable feat to play decent defense. LSU should have someone who can be decent behind the plate and bat for a decent average. Why is that some wild expectation?
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Posted on 7/8/21 at 9:05 am to DiamondDog
quote:So talent is essential. Glad to help.
the level of talent that should be at a Division 1 school, especially at a program like LSU, their catchers should be moderately capable, however you want to define it, behind the plate.
quote:Because hitting is one of the most difficult things to do in any sport and catching is the most difficult position to play in baseball. A combination of the two is extremely rare at most levels. You also have the issue of players who could excel at Catcher choose to play other positions because it's better for their careers (Crews, Harper). Very few times does it work the other way (Nola). ETA: Not to mention is difficulty in scouting the position for a college team when Pro teams have the same issues with finding elite talent at the spot.
At this level, if you’re recruited, it should not be some remarkable feat to play decent defense. LSU should have someone who can be decent behind the plate and bat for a decent average. Why is that some wild expectation?
This post was edited on 7/8/21 at 9:09 am
Posted on 7/8/21 at 9:15 am to LSUTIGERS8181
At Samford. Y’all need to chill
Posted on 7/8/21 at 9:16 am to ell_13
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You call this a choice as if he’s not working as hard as he can or not listening to those trying to help him.
well he's a shitty bunter, as he proved late in the season, and he has been pulling his left foot away from the plate for 2 years now, something that should have been taught out of him when he was 8 years old.
I"m not saying he isn't working hard, but his hard work doesn't seem to be helping him at all. So either he's not listening, or he just sucks.
Posted on 7/8/21 at 9:17 am to DiamondDog
What point are you trying to make exactly? You started off by saying that Milazzo’s defense wasn’t very important to the team, then said any half decent catcher should be able to be great defensively as if Travinski wasn’t dropping balls that were thrown directly at his head last year, and now you’re mad because guys who no longer coach for LSU didn’t recruit good enough catchers. Who exactly are you mad at because you’re kind of all over the place
Posted on 7/8/21 at 9:18 am to BatonrougeCajun
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and no way you ever tried that dude because you would be out by a mile.
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He threw out 45% for his career
Sure sounds like a lot of people tried him and were successful.
This post was edited on 7/8/21 at 9:19 am
Posted on 7/8/21 at 9:20 am to ell_13
The amount of idiocy in this thread is...not surprising
Posted on 7/8/21 at 9:20 am to DiamondDog
quote:
Not at all but the level of talent that should be at a Division 1 school, especially at a program like LSU, their catchers should be moderately capable, however you want to define it, behind the plate.
At this level, if you’re recruited, it should not be some remarkable feat to play decent defense. LSU should have someone who can be decent behind the plate and bat for a decent average. Why is that some wild expectation?
It isn't. I don't understand why you're getting shite on for this take.
You recruit a catcher, you'd expect him to be able to block balls in the dirt effectively.
You recruit a shortstop, you'd expect him to be able to field grounders and throw to first.
You recruit an outfielder, you expect him to be able to get good jumps, take good angles, and catch popups.
This is LSU, not some small college just taking any recruit they can get and plugging guys in wherever they can.
The fact that Hal Hughes and Milazzo played for two years is pathetic, and is exactly why we have a new coach.
Posted on 7/8/21 at 9:21 am to DiamondDog
quote:This is bullshite.
Apparently “people who know ball” think that’s some rare talent. I probably should have played in college 20 years ago since I caught 5-A ball for a few years and never had a passed ball.
But aside from that, if you are expecting in and you get down and away in todays game with the current pitchers, it is an elite move to block, and maintain balance to make a defensive play. Period. This isnt a few balls down in the dirt.
Posted on 7/8/21 at 9:22 am to TeddyPadillac
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You recruit a catcher, you'd expect him to be able to block balls in the dirt effectively.
Thats relative. Its on you if you are the recruiter of this kid and you dont evaluate this aspect of the game.
quote:
You recruit a shortstop, you'd expect him to be able to field grounders and throw to first.
You recruit an outfielder, you expect him to be able to get good jumps, take good angles, and catch popups.
All this shite is relative. Are you obtuse? Or just ignoring that some players are better at these things than others?
Posted on 7/8/21 at 9:24 am to Tiger Ree
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hitting averages that don't quite match those numbers in the SEC?
I checked and the guy played 11 games against SEC teams. Four mid-week games, 2 weekend series and 1 regional game. He hit a VERY RESPECTABLE .344 in those games.
32 at bats, 11 hits, 2 HR, 2 DBL, 6 RBI, 3 Runs, 9 SO
Weekend
@ Florida….. L 4-8…… 3-1…… HR…… 1 RBI….. 1 SO
@ Florida….. L 2-18….. 3-1…… 0 RBI…… 1 SO
@ Florida….. L 9-10….. 4-1…… 1 Run….. 1 SO
Weekend
@TX A&M…. L 1-10….. 3-1…… 1 SO
@TX A&M…. L 4-21…. DNP
@TX A&M…. L 2-5…... 4-0…… 2 SO
Tuesday
@MS St…… L 2-10….. 2-0…… 1 SO
Tuesday
@Alabama… L 3-19….. 2-1…… 1 RBI….. 0 SO
Tuesday
@Auburn…. L 4-6…… 3-2…… 1 Run….. 1 BB…… 1 SO
Wednesday - @Hoover
@Auburn…. W 6-1…… 4-2…… 1 Run….. 4 RBI….. HR…… 1 DBL…… 0 SO
Regional
@MS St…… L 4-8…… 4-2…… 1 DBL…… 1 SO
Posted on 7/8/21 at 9:27 am to TeddyPadillac
quote:I'm not saying LSU or the fans should lower the expectations. I'm explaining why it doesn't always work out. You act like LSU has never had kids fail and get processed. It happens every year and has happened every year since roster limits came into place. Before that kids would just take a hint and leave. And it's not just LSU. The idea that "how dare LSU not have a catcher that can hit for average and play good defense!!!" is ignorant to how difficult finding a player like that is these days when most elite players avoid the position.
It isn't. I don't understand why you're getting shite on for this take.
You recruit a catcher, you'd expect him to be able to block balls in the dirt effectively.
You recruit a shortstop, you'd expect him to be able to field grounders and throw to first.
You recruit an outfielder, you expect him to be able to get good jumps, take good angles, and catch popups.
Posted on 7/8/21 at 9:27 am to Tiger Ree
His HR against Florida was off of Sproat, who is on the collegiate national team
Posted on 7/8/21 at 9:32 am to ell_13
Milazzo hit .432 his senior season of high school. McManus hit .319 for his high school career. This is why one went to Delgado and one went to LSU, aside from the fact that Milazzo is one of the best defensive catchers in the country. Now here we are.
This post was edited on 7/8/21 at 9:33 am
Posted on 7/8/21 at 9:38 am to DRock88
Exactly. Most of the best schools and pro scouts look for and go after the elite defensive guys first knowing that it's easier to teach hitting than it is to teach someone to play the position at a high level. And they're looking for these kids when they're only 14/15/16 years old. You have to try and project and hope the hitting comes around if it's not already there. And if it IS there, you can bet a pro team is first in line. Yet we've got DiamondDog over here saying that defense isn't important or that it doesn't take talent to do it well. It's mind-blowing.
This post was edited on 7/8/21 at 9:39 am
Posted on 7/8/21 at 9:43 am to TeddyPadillac
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It isn't. I don't understand why you're getting shite on for this take.
Because we have a bunch of marginally employed former wanna be jocks in this thread that want to act like they “know a lot about ball”. When the truth is 99% of the people here know about the same amount because if they truly knew more, they’d probably be employed in the actual sport.
Instead, we got a bunch of tee ball and coaches pitch volunteers trying to lecture others about the “expectations of a catcher”.
Posted on 7/8/21 at 9:44 am to ell_13
My biggest issue with Milazzo is that he hasn't improved at all at the plate. I saw the slightest bit of hope before the 2020 season ended, but he didn't have any hope last season. They made a correction with his front side but it never really paid off. Maybe he needs to see an eye doctor.
Posted on 7/8/21 at 9:45 am to DiamondDog
I was recruited to catch in college. Was there a year before meniscus surgery and moved to the OF. 
Posted on 7/8/21 at 9:46 am to DiamondDog
Which group are you in? Just curious.
Posted on 7/8/21 at 9:47 am to DRock88
quote:He regressed. His swings were always defensive. He couldn't touch a thing on the outer part of the plate. But you had to play him. I don't know what they tried to fix or how they tried to fix it but nothing worked.
My biggest issue with Milazzo is that he hasn't improved at all at the plate.
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