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re: Salary Cap for NIL Proposed
Posted on 7/8/24 at 10:25 pm to paulb52
Posted on 7/8/24 at 10:25 pm to paulb52
The SEC should have a pay scale for players commensurate with the TV contracts. The scale would double with each year and include bonuses for graduation, bowl game participation, 5th year (i.e., RS). And if a player transfers out, he forfeits his account and would have to start over.
Schollies would have a statement that they willingly forfeit any NIL deals.
By linking pay to TV contracts, players and schools have a vested interest in maximizing viewership.
This would incentivize players sticking with one school, redshirts, bowl games, not bolting early for the NFL, and graduation.
Schollies would have a statement that they willingly forfeit any NIL deals.
By linking pay to TV contracts, players and schools have a vested interest in maximizing viewership.
This would incentivize players sticking with one school, redshirts, bowl games, not bolting early for the NFL, and graduation.
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Posted on 7/9/24 at 12:34 am to oldskule
are you serious Posted on 7/9/24 at 6:37 am to paulb52
Dumbest statement ever
Won’t work
As the NCAA will get sued
NIL is NOT a salary, it is for an endorsement, you can’t limit endorsement earnings
The NCAA wouldn’t pay way back when & now this is what’s left
You cannot open Pandora’s box and expect to be able to close it
Not gonna happen!!!!
Won’t work
As the NCAA will get sued
NIL is NOT a salary, it is for an endorsement, you can’t limit endorsement earnings
The NCAA wouldn’t pay way back when & now this is what’s left
You cannot open Pandora’s box and expect to be able to close it
Not gonna happen!!!!
Posted on 7/9/24 at 6:41 am to Gravitiger
Newsflash
The schools are NOT paying the players
The schools are NOT paying the players
Posted on 7/9/24 at 7:22 am to The Mick
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how will schools that can't pay anywhere near the cap be able to compete?
This is College Football. When has that ever mattered?
Stratification is what has always made college football great.
Posted on 7/9/24 at 7:23 am to Gravitiger
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The NCAA (i.e., the schools) can't uniterally limit how much money the schools can pay the players
I thought this was discussing NIL
Posted on 7/9/24 at 7:25 am to Alt26
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Except he didn't. He threw out an idea of potential "revenue sharing". That is NOT the same thing as an "NIL cap".
Correct.
NIL can't be regulated by the NCAA very much.
Posted on 7/9/24 at 7:53 am to Tigertuxedo
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Minor League Sports don't bring in anywhere near the amount of money as a college football game? It's not even really close. The kids should honestly get paid
College football is not a stand alone entity.
it's part of the entire athletic department.
and the vast majority of athletic departments operate at loss already.
so where would the money to pay these kids come from?
(good luck paying only football payers without government telling you that if you pay anyone, you have to pay everyone).
again, just using LSU as an example:
quote:
BATON ROUGE, La. (BRPROUD) — LSU football and men’s basketball are the only athletic programs that bring in more money than they spend, according to a report released Monday, Jan. 29. Overall, LSU Athletics had a $3,874,261 operational deficit.
The athletics department’s total revenue was $200,476,979 in 2023. Expenses totaled $204,351,240.
note: can't find the link, but LSU gave somewhere around $5 mil from athletics to academics, so in reality, it was a $2 mil profit if they take that money back. So we'll use $2mil as the amount LSU has "available".
LSU gives out somewhere around 450 athletic scholarships per year.
spread that $2mil out evenly amongst those students and they each get less than $5k.
the new NCAA rules allows schools to give up to $22 million to the student athletes.
if they give that entire amount to athletes, they come in at $20million loss for the year.
Posted on 7/9/24 at 8:23 am to Nutriaitch
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most you can do is limit how much can come directly from the school itself.
That's why they are trying to get the payments done directly through the schools without classifying the athletes as employees.
Posted on 7/9/24 at 10:07 am to paulb52
NIL...just another piece of crap coming out of California
Posted on 7/9/24 at 10:55 am to paulb52
Like the idea, but it's too late now! Once it's out of the bag, there's no turning back! NCAA should have done this at the beginning!. Never mind, that means they would have to do their jobs and that hasn't happened in years and isn't going to happen now!
Posted on 7/9/24 at 12:03 pm to paulb52
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Knew this was coming. Frickin’ college sports having to deal with this bullshite. More and more like minor league mercenaries.
It's been on a slow decline to that for a while. They don't care about a college education anymore. To be fair, it's becoming more meaningless, but still. Compare interviews with college and pro athletes 30-50+ years ago to now. Wilt Chamberlain, Magic Johnson, Larry Bird and Pistol Pete even with their hick-like accents, Michael Jordan, Kareem Abdul-Jabbar, Grant Hill... they spoke like well-educated professionals. Especially Wilt and Kareem. It's not about a black/white accent or a southern/yankee accent, they were just more serious about college.
Now, the standard's gotten lower, people like Angel Reese getting a 1.8 GPA making a mockery out of everyone who pays their way through college. I'd love to see her pass a 7th grade essay.
Posted on 7/9/24 at 12:36 pm to paulb52
Salary cap isn't going to work. The NIL deals are basically sponsors.
All scholarship kids automatically sign 2 year deals coming out of high school. Transfers sign 1-3 year deals depending on what they and the school agree to.
This would prevent kids from jumping ship after one year.
All scholarship kids automatically sign 2 year deals coming out of high school. Transfers sign 1-3 year deals depending on what they and the school agree to.
This would prevent kids from jumping ship after one year.
Posted on 7/9/24 at 12:44 pm to TN Tygah
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They don't care about a college education anymore
Why should they? The universities don't There are many players who likely would have never been accepted by the colleges attending the university SOLELY based upon their athletic ability. Some can't even read at an 8th grade level.
But the reality is...it doesn't matter because football and men's basketball LONG stopped being "scholastic extracurriculars" and became multi-million (billion) entertainment businesses. When the football team alone is generating well over $100M in annual revenue and the SEC is signing a media rights contract worth $3 BILLION, it isn't really about "education".
All of this makes much more sense when you view football/basketball through the prism of reality rather than through lenses of nostalgia for an era that hasn't actually existed for decades. The current outrage over NIL is simply because people are reluctantly realizing what has been true for years....these are major ENTERTAINMENT businesses.
This post was edited on 7/9/24 at 12:46 pm
Posted on 7/9/24 at 8:02 pm to Nutriaitch
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Are the athletes involved in the negotiations? If not, absent a legislative antitrust exemption, not sure how this works.
it won't work.
most you can do is limit how much can come directly from the school itself.
NFL, MLB, NBA, etc. can not tell Nike how much they can/can't pay a player for endorsements.
NIL is just a fancy new term for endorsements.
That is exactly what I was thinking. It will just mean that the excess money the big boosters have to give will be disbursed outside any controllable parameters.
Posted on 7/9/24 at 8:16 pm to Datbayoubengal
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All scholarship kids automatically sign 2 year deals coming out of high school.
Is that true? We ask and they act like it’s ‘4 years’…but obviously there are caveats.
Posted on 7/9/24 at 8:22 pm to paulb52
The best thing that can happen is for a College Football Players' Association to form. They can collectively bargain with conferences, set up pay scale, "trade" guidelines, contracts, etc. The current Wild West setup is not good for anyone.
Posted on 7/9/24 at 8:32 pm to Locoguan0
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The best thing that can happen is for a College Football Players' Association to form.
how does football break away financially from the rest of the athletics departments?
football turns a huge profit, but the majority of athletic departments (even at Power 5 schools) don’t turn any profit at all.
and most of those that do turn a profit don’t turn one big enough to pay players serious money.
so you’d have to find a way to have football stand alone financially.
which will likely never happen because these schools are mostly state run and those state’s would have to find another income source to offset the loss of football money for the departments.
Posted on 7/10/24 at 12:00 am to paulb52
So Gatorade gets really cheap advertisement?
Posted on 7/10/24 at 12:33 pm to Gaston
quote:No, that's what i hope we do. Scholarships are 1 year contracts, but im talking money contracts. Signing deals to where the kid has to stay for at least 2 years.
Is that true? We ask and they act like it’s ‘4 years’…but obviously there are caveats.
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