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re: Sage Ryan was a 5 star LA safety
Posted on 5/22/23 at 5:23 am to MasterAbe1
Posted on 5/22/23 at 5:23 am to MasterAbe1
And the fact that both were heralded as all world athletes that could "pick their position" by the recruiting services and both seem to be guys that don't really have one they can play effectively
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Posted on 5/22/23 at 7:03 am to 00 Tech Grad
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Grant Delpit is an example of one who developed late.
You are confused.
Posted on 5/22/23 at 7:22 am to MasterAbe1
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There’s really no comp between Stevens and Ryan outside of Stevens finding his spot.
That’s exactly what we’re comparing here.
Obviously, Stevens is a much bigger guy than Ryan. I was just talking about the fact that he wasn’t an instant stud, and it took some time to find his spot.
Posted on 5/22/23 at 7:28 am to Sailin Tiger
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Insanity is a bunch of slob bodied old fricks believing that 19 and 20 year old players can't improve and are as good as they will ever be at something
This. I don’t take damn thing these idiots say about an athlete seriously.
Posted on 5/22/23 at 8:21 am to 00 Tech Grad
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Grant Delpit is an example of one who developed late.
Maybe you are thinking of Craig Loston - 5* saftety that didn't become a starter until his RS Junior season.
Posted on 5/22/23 at 8:26 am to Frogman93
I still tend to think Sage would be a better free, although I am not sure they have really explored it
Posted on 5/22/23 at 8:48 am to 00 Tech Grad
I wasn’t impress in spring game but those usually don’t mean much.
Posted on 5/22/23 at 9:16 am to Sailin Tiger
quote:sure players can improve, but statistically, most players show what they have quite early in their college career.
Insanity is a bunch of slob bodied old fricks believing that 19 and 20 year old players can't improve and are as good as they will ever be at something.
So of course Ryan can improve, and we all hope he does. But what I think people are saying is that he hasn't shown much thus far, so the odds are that he won't.
Posted on 5/22/23 at 9:26 am to Sailin Tiger
Five star players are supposed to be guys who make an immediate positive impact out of high school, especially in the DB positions. This has not been the case with Sage.
Posted on 5/22/23 at 9:30 am to 00 Tech Grad
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Grant Delpit is an example of one who developed late.
Grant Delpit started the season opener against BYU as a true freshman….
Posted on 5/22/23 at 9:50 am to 00 Tech Grad
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Sage Ryan was a 5 star LA safety
Yep. And constantly asked to play nickel, which he doesn’t appear to cover opponents naturally. Tight hips.
People in this thread saying he’s too small, maybe, or he’s too slow, which he’s not.
Last year he made several open field tackles. Extremely impressive stuff.
He missed an open field tackle in the spring game, but I think the tools are there for him to be a very solid safety.
All American? No. But very sound.
Posted on 5/22/23 at 10:43 am to Sailin Tiger
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Insanity is a bunch of slob bodied old fricks believing that 19 and 20 year old players can't improve and are as good as they will ever be at something. Why don't yall try to pick up an activity and work to improve at it and see how lo g you keep improving
Punk, I don’t need to work. Played my cards right and retired at 59. I’ll meet your punk arse at sonic and drown you in a Red Bull art 44.
I think Sage will be just fine this year.
Posted on 5/22/23 at 11:00 am to cbree88
Some players it's hard to find a position for
For example Derrick Davis, great athlete but never could find his best position
Same thing with Ryan - great athlete
Marcel Brooks who left for TCU
For example Derrick Davis, great athlete but never could find his best position
Same thing with Ryan - great athlete
Marcel Brooks who left for TCU
Posted on 5/22/23 at 11:10 am to Menatiger
Posted on 5/22/23 at 11:15 am to BilbeauTBaggins
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Five star players are supposed to be guys who make an immediate positive impact out of high school, especially in the DB positions. This has not been the case with Sage.
He played at a small 2A (at the time) school against inferior competition. He doesn't have elite speed, quickness, or size. It was a disservice to have him rated as a 5 star player and he would've been better served with a mid 4 star rating. That said, even having to deal with injuries early in his career, he is rounding into a solid player who will hopefully contribute more this season.
Posted on 5/22/23 at 11:59 am to SammyTiger
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I think he is closer than a lot of people realize.
He is often right where he needs to be. He just needs to start getting his head around to make a play on the ball.
There were a few games Sage looked to have very tight coverage, but lost the fight for the 50/50 balls. Physicality and size worked against him. He did have plays where he got turned around as well, but maybe more time in S&C and in Houses' D will help him turn the corner.
Posted on 5/22/23 at 3:31 pm to BilbeauTBaggins
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Insanity is doing the same thing and expecting a different result.
Yeah, insanity . . . or, you know, practice and training and experience.
It always makes me chuckle when people post that line in a sports conversation. I mean, doing the same thing and getting a different result is 100% the point of practice and training and experience, which are the essentials of getting better at sports.
Posted on 5/22/23 at 3:47 pm to BayouCowboy
I have been disappointed so far, but I have heard no reports suggesting he isn't a team player, will not work in the off season or that he is threatening to transfer to Alabama, so I am still hoping he turns the corner and becomes a star.
Posted on 5/22/23 at 4:54 pm to 00 Tech Grad
Who knows. He was overrated coming out of HS though. Most people who followed recruiting knew that before he even stepped foot on campus. Maybe he should stop worrying about talking shite like he did in the Purdue game and work harder. Same guy he talked shite to made him look like burnt toast until he dropped that ball and got hurt.
Posted on 5/22/23 at 5:40 pm to King Joey
quote:and it makes me chuckle when fans think practice will turn a 3* into a 5*. Now sure, it does happen where a guy blossoms late in his career. But, although practice and hard work will surely make a guy better, it rarely turns a good player into a great player. If it did, then every average player that worked really hard would be an All-American.
It always makes me chuckle when people post that line in a sports conversation. I mean, doing the same thing and getting a different result is 100% the point of practice and training and experience, which are the essentials of getting better at sports.
90% of it is God-given talent. The rest is hard work.
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