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re: Saban will be the Lance Armstrong of coaching

Posted on 11/4/18 at 12:34 pm to
Posted by Tiger Voodoo
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Posted on 11/4/18 at 12:34 pm to
quote:

There will be a story at some point that will ultimately reveal systemmatic cheating at Bama that is unparalleled in sophistication and which likely reveals corruption at SEC and NCAA.



Agreed.

Honestly I’m shocked it hasn’t happened yet. Can’t understand why no journalists want to be the one to break it.

Probably because there are no real “journalists” anymore, but I digress.
Posted by MightyYat
StB Garden District
Member since Jan 2009
25029 posts
Posted on 11/4/18 at 12:36 pm to
It really is sad to see. Saban has completely destroyed what he was responsible for building. It’s actually quite impressive. I don’t know if he as any I’ll feelings towards LSU but that dude is salting the earth of LSU football.
Posted by Canwoodtiger
Member since Oct 2015
3737 posts
Posted on 11/4/18 at 12:38 pm to
GFYM
Posted by Canwoodtiger
Member since Oct 2015
3737 posts
Posted on 11/4/18 at 12:41 pm to
We are pointing out what is real. Y'all are the beneficiaries of a rigged unfair system. I pray for all ignorant Gump souls. You know they sold all of your souls to the devil. A Gump is cursed to go to h()) for all the sins of the current world:).
Posted by AshLSU
Member since Nov 2015
12868 posts
Posted on 11/4/18 at 12:42 pm to
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The fact that players whole families are relocating to Alabama is a hint something might be going on.


Except that’s perfectly within the rules.

A booster who, for instance, owns a car dealership, can hire a parent and give that parent a ridiculous salary to “sell cars”. They can even give them a house as part of their salary.
Posted by Drizzt
Cimmeria
Member since Aug 2013
14881 posts
Posted on 11/4/18 at 12:43 pm to
I thought you were gonna tell me Saban only had one testicle.
Posted by Canwoodtiger
Member since Oct 2015
3737 posts
Posted on 11/4/18 at 12:43 pm to
Yahoo story in 2012 was squashed. I am too lazy in all honesty to pull out the link LOL! But it is out there. It is the one about D J Fluker. It is an illuminati type conspiracy. Media, NCAA and SEC all in on it. The evidence was plain as day and nothing done about it. Yet Ole Piss gets probation after beating Bama back to back. 2+2....
Posted by Farkwad
Byzantium
Member since Sep 2010
2669 posts
Posted on 11/4/18 at 12:44 pm to
Every major college program throws money to poor black kids without exception
Posted by TigerDM
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2013
1768 posts
Posted on 11/4/18 at 12:44 pm to
This is why Saban will retire either at the same time or before Mark Emmert does. As long as he is in charge, Saban is covered.
Posted by LSUStar
Medellin
Member since Sep 2009
11405 posts
Posted on 11/4/18 at 12:44 pm to
This seems all too plausible. Further, it is not good for CFB's bottom line to have one or two teams winning all the time.
Posted by JKChesterton
Member since Dec 2012
4228 posts
Posted on 11/4/18 at 12:52 pm to
DOC:

Buying players is hard to prove. Absent a whistle blower or it is done in another state and that State's Government has the willingness to use Legislative auditor or Dept. of Revenue to audit individuals or businesses that are allegedly bag men for Bama operating say for example in Louisiana, what can you prove?

My theory is that Saban uses something similar to an Overtime method. You find top 5 star players a job at the Mercedes Plant or Construction job along with his parents. If you are on a crew there and a 5-star recruit shows up at the Mercedes Plant or Construction site, you call your wife and say honey I am going to get overtime pay. So as long as the 5-star recruit, his parent(s) are getting paid the same as everyone else doing the same job, not sure NCAA can or will do anything. You can't prove anything. As long as all those players, there parents and workers at Mercedes Benz or wherever, etc. are reporting income on tax return, what can you do. Now all these players from lets say traditional Blue states moving to perhaps the most red state in the Union for nothing. I mean Hawaii to Tuscaloosa for the culture?

Now Saban has been there since 2007 so if in 10 years you start seeing former Bama players with health issues due to steroid/PED abuse, then you may have something.

Absent that, they like Auburn a few years ago with CAM, except they are always all in. THE BOS has Bear's Son on it. You think LSU has anything like that on its BOS.
Posted by LSUStar
Medellin
Member since Sep 2009
11405 posts
Posted on 11/4/18 at 12:54 pm to
LSU BOS probably has multiple gump moles on it...

Posted by Big EZ Tiger
Member since Jul 2010
26270 posts
Posted on 11/4/18 at 12:55 pm to
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It’s coming.

I was told "we comin'" too, but last night, I realized that indeed we were not comin'.
Posted by EA6B
TX
Member since Dec 2012
14754 posts
Posted on 11/4/18 at 12:55 pm to
quote:

The fact that players whole families are relocating to Alabama is a hint something might be going on.


quote:

Except that’s perfectly within the rules.




quote:

A booster who, for instance, owns a car dealership, can hire a parent and give that parent a ridiculous salary to “sell cars”. They can even give them a house as part of their salary.


It absolutely against NCAA rules for a booster to do that.

LINK

As a booster, you may not:
•Contact a prospect in-person on-campus or off campus.
•Contact a prospect by telephone, email, Internet or letter.
•Provide gifts or free or reduced-cost services to a prospect or the prospect’s relatives or guardian.
Employ relatives, guardians or friends of a prospect as an inducement for the prospect’s enrollment and athletics participation at a university.
•Become directly or indirectly involved in making arrangements for a prospect or the prospect’s relatives or guardian to receive money or financial aid of any kind.
•Provide transportation for a prospect or the prospect’s relatives or guardian.
•Provide free or reduced-cost tickets for a prospect or the prospect’s relatives or guardian to attend an athletic event.
•Provide any material benefit (e.g., meals, cash) to the coach of a prospect, including high school, two-year college, AAU and summer team coaches.
This post was edited on 11/4/18 at 1:02 pm
Posted by JKChesterton
Member since Dec 2012
4228 posts
Posted on 11/4/18 at 1:04 pm to
Read those rules very carefully. "Prospect" once a kid is signed and enrolled and his family moves to Tuscaloosa since this is the place that it seems to going on the most (could be anywhere for the record) to say "be near their kid" what can you prove?
Posted by Katy Tiger
Houston area
Member since Sep 2004
8032 posts
Posted on 11/4/18 at 1:06 pm to
I noticed that when Saban got to LSU that within a year we were WAY bigger on the lines than we had been in previous years. Same thing happened when he got to Bama. There is only one way kids gain that much bulk that fast......

This post was edited on 11/4/18 at 1:21 pm
Posted by EA6B
TX
Member since Dec 2012
14754 posts
Posted on 11/4/18 at 1:08 pm to
quote:

Read those rules very carefully. "Prospect" once a kid is signed and enrolled and his family moves to Tuscaloosa since this is the place that it seems to going on the most (could be anywhere for the record) to say "be near their kid" what can you prove?


Next paragraph on enrolled student athletes.


As a booster, you may not provide a student-athlete or a student-athlete’s friends, relatives or guardians:

•Tickets to college or professional sporting events.
•A special discount, payment arrangement or credit on a purchase or service.
•Cash or loan or signing or co-signing of a loan.
•Transportation, payment of expense or loan of any automobile.
•Benefits or gifts based upon the student-athlete’s athletic performance.
•Free or reduced rent or housing.
An honorarium to a student-athlete for a speaking engagement
This post was edited on 11/4/18 at 1:10 pm
Posted by genuineLSUtiger
Nashville
Member since Sep 2005
77110 posts
Posted on 11/4/18 at 1:09 pm to
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Bama's players are all on steroids.


This will come out on top of the pay to play scandal. It will be a sight to behold to see the Bama empire implode.
Posted by DeltaDoc
The Delta
Member since Jan 2008
16473 posts
Posted on 11/4/18 at 1:09 pm to
They are getting them jobs, etc.
Posted by TigerVespamon
Member since Dec 2010
7402 posts
Posted on 11/4/18 at 1:10 pm to
Which testicle will he lose?
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