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re: Ryan Clark on the safety coach position

Posted on 1/12/18 at 12:23 pm to
Posted by TheCaterpillar
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Posted on 1/12/18 at 12:23 pm to
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There are 3 former players on the coaching staff... Dennis Johnson Corey Raymond Steve Ensminger


You misunderstood.

I meant he’s not going out of his way to include famous ex players by hiring them as coaches when they have no experience.

That’s a much different animal than including them in alumni stuff and invited them to practice.

Raymond is elite, Dennis worked his way up, and Ensminger did not get promoted because he went to LSU.
Posted by kwtiger70
Houston
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Posted on 1/12/18 at 12:31 pm to
Loved Ryan as a player, but has he ever coached at any level?
Posted by BBATiger
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Posted on 1/12/18 at 12:32 pm to
I’d have more of a problem with him hiring someone with no coaching experience than moving SE to OC. Sorry Ryan.
Posted by The Godfather
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Posted on 1/12/18 at 12:33 pm to
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I meant he’s not going out of his way to include famous ex players by hiring them as coaches when they have no experience.





Instead he is promoting former players for positions they haven't been in in 20 years.
Posted by choupiquesushi
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Posted on 1/12/18 at 12:33 pm to
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Sure they’ll find someone that’s or worked on a staff before!
FIFY
Posted by themunch
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Posted on 1/12/18 at 12:33 pm to

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re: Ryan Clark on the safety coach positionPosted on 1/12/18 at 12:14 pm to Jack Daniel
He still involves old players a lot. Hiring them is a different animal.


Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 1/12/18 at 12:34 pm to
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That’s a much different animal than including them in alumni stuff and invited them to practice.

Raymond is elite, Dennis worked his way up, and Ensminger did not get promoted because he went to LSU.

I don't think you need a ton of actual coaching experience to take on a position job. Johnson has been a grad assistant for a few years but he hasn't been around football nearly as long as Clark. Clark played under some VERY good coaches in college and in the NFL. He has plenty of practical experience for a job like safeties coach IMO. if we were asking him to coach the entire defense or even the secondary I would tend to agree, but we're talking about a very specific group and coaching the position he played for 12 years in the NFL, winning a super bowl and making the pro bowl. I think safeties coach is about as entry level as it gets
This post was edited on 1/12/18 at 1:07 pm
Posted by Dizz
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Posted on 1/12/18 at 12:34 pm to
I got the impression that Aranda wanted a safties coach and would probably be hiring said coach.
Posted by PenguinPubes
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Posted on 1/12/18 at 12:36 pm to
That would be awesome
Posted by EvrybodysAllAmerican
Member since Apr 2013
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Posted on 1/12/18 at 12:36 pm to
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Here comes the buffoons saying Clark doesn’t know enough to coach safeties.


Playing it and coaching it are 2 different things. That being said, Clark was an undersized guy who had a great career so he's probably smarter than most. He really should try to get his foot in the door somewhere as an analyst or even high school/ small college job if that's what he wants to do. But most of these guys don't want to pay their dues, they just want to jump straight into a big job with no coaching experience.
This post was edited on 1/12/18 at 12:38 pm
Posted by kballa6
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 1/12/18 at 12:36 pm to
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Sure they’ll find someone that’s a friend or worked with someone on the staff before! @Jthornhil kind of the way it works!!


Corporate America right there.
Posted by ATLTiger
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Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 1/12/18 at 12:38 pm to
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I got the impression that Aranda wanted a safties coach and would probably be hiring said coach.



word on the street (via the Coaching Changes board) is that Aranda will be hiring an asst DB coach from the Dolphins who was Dave's DB coach at Wisconsin

Daronte Jones
This post was edited on 1/12/18 at 12:39 pm
Posted by Darius David
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Posted on 1/12/18 at 12:39 pm to
STFU
Posted by omegaman66
greenwell springs
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 1/12/18 at 12:40 pm to
Ryan Clark needs to just support LSU.
Posted by TheCaterpillar
Member since Jan 2004
76774 posts
Posted on 1/12/18 at 12:40 pm to
Guys I’m not defending Orgeron, he’s a buffoon.

Posted by yaherrdme
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Member since Feb 2004
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Posted on 1/12/18 at 12:44 pm to
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I would, dream job


Dream Job - (First box checked off)

I assume he will be hired soon, he meets what seems to be the most important criteria
Posted by boodro
Lafayette
Member since Jul 2013
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Posted on 1/12/18 at 12:45 pm to
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Sure they’ll find someone that’s a friend or worked with someone on the staff before! @Jthornhil kind of the way it works!!
Posted by 1999
Where I be
Member since Oct 2009
29143 posts
Posted on 1/12/18 at 12:46 pm to
You’d fit right in in North Korea.
Posted by omegaman66
greenwell springs
Member since Oct 2007
22781 posts
Posted on 1/12/18 at 12:48 pm to
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You’d fit right in in North Korea.


And you have limited understanding of a joke. Read who I replied too!
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
26808 posts
Posted on 1/12/18 at 12:51 pm to
The issue is not just knowledge, but the actual task of being a coach. Working long hours, being on the road recruiting -- does a rich, former NFL player want the headache and responsibility?

Working your way up does not entail just learning your job, but it shows your boss that you are committed to the craft and will put in the work and hours needed.

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