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re: Ryan Clark Nailed It...
Posted on 11/8/18 at 9:08 am to jgriffith
Posted on 11/8/18 at 9:08 am to jgriffith
quote:
Ryan Clark said on AFR today with regards to the game against alabamm that it's 100% scheme that's the problem."
Ed will take zero blame for the way he and his crappy offensive hires have totally shite the bed this season.
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Posted on 11/8/18 at 9:17 am to jgriffith
Yeah - well he will have more credibility, IMHO, when he stands up for our National Anthem at a high school football game.
AND contributes financially to LSU.
That would help. Again, IMHO.
AND contributes financially to LSU.
That would help. Again, IMHO.
Posted on 11/8/18 at 10:19 am to TigersFan64
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Without an offensive line that can block and give your QB time to throw, NO scheme will save us against Bama.
LOL People who think they have a higher football IQ than Ryan Clark, someone who has played football at every level during the majority of his life.
It is a scheme issue. The problem is we have yet to scheme around our weakness ie QB OLine.
Posted on 11/8/18 at 10:37 am to jgriffith
Yes there was a talent gap. No we weren’t so overmatched on offense that there was no way to score a point.
If we even have a pulse on offense, that’s a ball game bc our defense won’t have to stay on the field for 40 minutes.
If we even have a pulse on offense, that’s a ball game bc our defense won’t have to stay on the field for 40 minutes.
Posted on 11/8/18 at 10:42 am to TigersFan64
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Without an offensive line that can block and give your QB time to throw, NO scheme will save us against Bama.
Yes.
But, to his point, you don't run play action on your own 5 yard line when you can't block anybody.
Posted on 11/8/18 at 10:49 am to TigersFan64
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Without an offensive line that can block and give your QB time to throw, NO scheme will save us against Bama.
It's hilarious. An NFL all pro safety that actually played for Nick Saban says 100% it's scheme and some on here continue to scoff at this idea and beat the Oline drum. What does Ryan Clark know right?
This post was edited on 11/8/18 at 10:50 am
Posted on 11/8/18 at 10:57 am to jgriffith
quote:
Ryan Clark said on AFR today with regards to the game against alabamm that it's 100% scheme that's the problem."
He is 100% spot on.
well, is it scheme when #92 obliterates a gaurd/tackle double team in the red zone and rag dolls burrow? TWO 300 pounders could not block him. thats not scheme. that is just one example of sooooo many. burrow made some throws when he wasn't be assaulted
Posted on 11/8/18 at 10:57 am to setinways12
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It's hilarious. An NFL all pro safety that actually played for Nick Saban says 100% it's scheme and some on here continue to scoff at this idea and beat the Oline drum. What does Ryan Clark know right?
What's really hilarious is that people that profess to know football believe that we only need to fix one thing and our offensive problems are solved.
The truth is we don't have the talent to compete versus Bama's D (eyeball test, star ratings, etc. it's obvious), and our staff isn't recruiting well enough; nor are they creative enough to offset much of our talent handicap when we play Bama.
But keep believe it's only the coach if it makes you feel better and that you don't need all SEC type guys on O to beat them.
Posted on 11/8/18 at 11:15 am to jgriffith
quote:Scheme is certainly a problem but when you see that we have Burrow and QB and they have Tua, it is LOL funny to say it's 100% scheme and 0% talent.
"FWIW, Ryan Clark said on AFR today with regards to the game against alabamm that it's 100% scheme that's the problem."
Posted on 11/8/18 at 8:15 pm to BayouBengal99
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You're just an idiot. You people would fire Nick Saban if he came back to LSU for losing a game.
It's not about losing "a game"
It's about the reason we lost that game.
Coach Faux said things would be different. He lied. Offense is still putrid against good teams and LSU is going to be a 9-10 win team that doesn't make the SEC championship game nor the college playoff.
If you are okay with not competing for SEC titles nor playoff appearances, then coach Faux is your guy.
I for one have bigger and better expectations for LSU. Orgeron is content with not competing for titles on any level. The proof is in the fact that he hired Ensminger as his OC.
LSU is Outback Bowl University until either coach Faux grows a fricking pair and hires an OC AND actually lets them run their scheme or until he's fired.
Posted on 11/8/18 at 8:23 pm to jgriffith
Scheme is one thing. Play calling is another. The simplistic high school model scheme being used plays into Alabama's strength, their talent, which LSU is currently unable to match. The stupidity of the play calling makes the scheme even worse. Instead of QUICK developing plays where the offensive line is not asked to carry as much of the load, LSU ran play action which required dependence upon the offensive line's abilities to hold their blocks long enough for things to take place. When your offensive line is your WEAK spot, it is pure stupidity to have your offensive approach depending on them. That's what we did in a nutshell.
Posted on 11/8/18 at 8:45 pm to Paul Maul number 37
I agree. And I'm not at all insinuating we have the talent to match alabama. Some of these replies I've read are accusing me of implying that. My point is that we've been SHUT OUT both times under Ensminger due to his plain Jane scheme, poor play calling, lack of adjustments, etc. Ensminger has absolutely no clue how to muster points against sabamm. I mean where the hell has this guy been for 25 years? Did he not see how Freeze attacked bamm? Did he not see how Dabo went toe to toe with em? Did he not see film of last season's national title game? This is like a joke, but I'm not laughing.
This post was edited on 11/8/18 at 8:47 pm
Posted on 11/8/18 at 9:30 pm to tiggerthetooth
It’s a mix of scheme and players. If our o line was better than Bama’s D line our scheme would be just fine.
Our oLine is not as bad as it looks. Our play calling is predictable, which makes the Oline’s job harder. But the same predicatable offense wins 9 or 10 games a year. If it were 100% scheme you don’t win that many games in the SEC.
Their lines are better than ours on both sides of the ball, we never have a QB that can beat them throwing and they have better coaches. That’s how they win every year. Our transfer QB’s leave & sit the bench at lesser schools & our current starter is a transfer who couldn’t win the job at an equal school.
Our oLine is not as bad as it looks. Our play calling is predictable, which makes the Oline’s job harder. But the same predicatable offense wins 9 or 10 games a year. If it were 100% scheme you don’t win that many games in the SEC.
Their lines are better than ours on both sides of the ball, we never have a QB that can beat them throwing and they have better coaches. That’s how they win every year. Our transfer QB’s leave & sit the bench at lesser schools & our current starter is a transfer who couldn’t win the job at an equal school.
Posted on 11/8/18 at 9:38 pm to WhySoSerious
Hey pussy's get over the butthurt last week, LSU wins out (and they will) it's 10-2 and to a great bowl game. Move the frick on people. LSU didn't beat them and no one else will either. Until Satan retires or dies (whatever comes first) it is what it is.
Posted on 11/9/18 at 1:17 am to jgriffith
why cant it be scheme and talent?
and depth?
and coaching?
and depth?
and coaching?
This post was edited on 11/9/18 at 1:18 am
Posted on 11/9/18 at 1:41 am to RuLSU
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I’m guessing Clark is pretty qualified to comment on football in general.
Nah, The Pirate King is the authority on football.
Posted on 11/9/18 at 1:46 am to jgriffith
I know the OL has been patchwork this year, but LSU hasn’t had much success scoring on Bama since 2010. And LSU has had superb talent in that time span. Multiple shutouts and never exceeding 17pts...exactly how much talent will it take to make this offense work against Bama?
Posted on 11/9/18 at 2:47 am to doubleb
Do you believe all of the offensive lines on higher stat rated SEC teams are better than LSU? Do you believe no OC in the nation could come in and increase scoring by 10 points per game? I believe either Briles could. I believe Freeze could. Oklahoma head coach could. Sean Payton could. Kiffen could. Washington coach could.
The point is with the right innovative OC and scheme LSU offense would improve dramatically with its current players. There are plenty of teams who take less talented players and coach them up and scheme around their talent deficiencies. Bama d-line has outtalented literally every o-line for the last 7 years at least. Yet they have been scored on and lost games during that time. Why is that? Why did Freeze beat Saban 2 out of 4 years? Why has LSU lost 8 years in a row? There was a time during those 8 years LSU talent was on par with Bama. Less skilled players is not the answer. It has been scheme period.
The point is with the right innovative OC and scheme LSU offense would improve dramatically with its current players. There are plenty of teams who take less talented players and coach them up and scheme around their talent deficiencies. Bama d-line has outtalented literally every o-line for the last 7 years at least. Yet they have been scored on and lost games during that time. Why is that? Why did Freeze beat Saban 2 out of 4 years? Why has LSU lost 8 years in a row? There was a time during those 8 years LSU talent was on par with Bama. Less skilled players is not the answer. It has been scheme period.
Posted on 11/9/18 at 2:55 am to justustm2
We did run rpos and zone read about IDK 20 times against bama.
. Whatever guy said we should have done that .
. Whatever guy said we should have done that .
Posted on 11/9/18 at 6:32 am to bencoleman
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The offensive line is terrible. I don't believe that any scheme would work if the offensive line steps out of the defensive guy's way so he can get to the QB.
I think it's a combination of the two. The 0-line got whipped there is no denying. But to say nothing we could have done could have mitigated the ineptitude of offense is rationalization.
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