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re: RPI Is A Joke
Posted on 5/24/24 at 10:54 pm to hessmersaint
Posted on 5/24/24 at 10:54 pm to hessmersaint
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My point still stands
Not really. Moving up 7 spots in 3 games is a lot especially considering they have a 13-17 conference record. That isn’t just forgotten.
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Posted on 5/24/24 at 10:56 pm to Geauxtigersgeaux12
Their quad 1 and 2 wins are much stronger than many in front of them. It’s not even close with some.
Posted on 5/24/24 at 11:01 pm to Geauxtigersgeaux12
ECU, Indiana St. UC Santa Barbara , San Diego and DBU . All have way less Q1 and Q2 wins with worse SOS.
All ranked ahead of LSU. That doesn’t make sense. It’s a broken system.
All ranked ahead of LSU. That doesn’t make sense. It’s a broken system.
Posted on 5/24/24 at 11:03 pm to hessmersaint
So you’re mad that three whole wins didn’t launch LSU from 30 into into the teens?
Posted on 5/24/24 at 11:04 pm to lsufball19
Considering the quality of wins and the effect on their total body of work, I’m surprised. 20 q1 and q2 wins is a lot.
Posted on 5/24/24 at 11:10 pm to hessmersaint
Yeah you would think that Strength of schedule would be alot more valuable in those ranking. So play shite teams and your RPI is still pretty good as long as you beat a couple decent teams and have a winning record.
Posted on 5/24/24 at 11:27 pm to hessmersaint
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how so?
There’s a seasons worth of data in the calculation….. A few wins will not have that type of impact. As stated, the move up that has resulted is relatively significant taking into account the rest of the season.
Posted on 5/24/24 at 11:30 pm to hessmersaint
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LSU beat Kentucky, Georgia and Carolina, and only moved up 5 spots. From 30 to 25.
21-25 are essentially tied. DBU is at .5829 and LSU is at .5821.
This post was edited on 5/24/24 at 11:35 pm
Posted on 5/24/24 at 11:30 pm to hessmersaint
How does UGA move up a spot when they went 1 and done in the SEC tourney and haven’t played in 3 days?
Posted on 5/24/24 at 11:38 pm to Rising
LSUs final predicted RPI on Warren Nolan is #19 where they predict we beat USC, and Tennessee’s predicted RPI is #1 with a win over Vanderbilt. theyre predicting an LSU v UT championship.
If LSU were to beat UT in the championship they could finish as high as #16 I bet since UT has such a high RPI. Not that it’ll boost us into position to host but still damn impressive. I know no one would want to see us in their regional.
If LSU were to beat UT in the championship they could finish as high as #16 I bet since UT has such a high RPI. Not that it’ll boost us into position to host but still damn impressive. I know no one would want to see us in their regional.
Posted on 5/24/24 at 11:55 pm to hessmersaint
Posted on 5/24/24 at 11:58 pm to FLBooGoTigs1
That’s is what we do. Weak out of conference schedule and tough conference schedule.
Posted on 5/25/24 at 12:07 am to Who_Dat_Tiger
LSU will get 22 pts for beating USC. Lose 26 in loss. UK would have been like 35/10. So drop 1 in loss tomorrow. Up a few in win. 21ish depending on what other teams do. Could get to 19 tomorrow if above teams lose too.
Posted on 5/25/24 at 12:11 am to hessmersaint
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ECU, Indiana St. UC Santa Barbara , San Diego and DBU . All have way less Q1 and Q2 wins with worse SOS.
All ranked ahead of LSU. That doesn’t make sense. It’s a broken system.
I mean yeah, if your definition of a working system involves Q1 and Q2 wins then sure - RPI is broken. It doesn’t account for who you beat at all. The only factors are overall win % (adjusted for home/neutral/away) and overall SOS.
It’s just a data point. There’s a reason RPI isn’t the only thing the committee looks at.
Posted on 5/25/24 at 12:39 am to hessmersaint
How many spots do you think 3 games, albeit wins against high RPI squads, should get them after they played 56 already? What do you expect here?
Posted on 5/25/24 at 4:06 am to hessmersaint
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LSU beat Kentucky, Georgia and Carolina, and only moved up 5 spots. From 30 to 25.
Maybe LSU shouldn’t have gone 13-17 in the SEC and lost to Southern.
This post was edited on 5/25/24 at 4:06 am
Posted on 5/25/24 at 4:17 am to FLBooGoTigs1
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So play shite teams and your RPI is still pretty good
Not really, the last couple years there's been quite a few teams cancel games against very low RPI teams because even a win will negatively affect their RPI
Posted on 5/25/24 at 4:32 am to Corn Dawg Nation
quote:write out the equation that's used
Math isn’t your best subject I see…….
Posted on 5/25/24 at 4:40 am to hessmersaint
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It must have been. My point still stands. Beating those three teams back to back at neutral sites should be worth more than that.
I think the opposite should be true. With a full season's worth of data, 3 games should not have this much of an effect. But it does because the RPI is trash.
My biggest complaint and the glaring wtf is that your opponents' opponents' record counts as 25% of the formula.
Basic breakdown is: 50% team's win %, 25% opponents' win %, 25% opponents' opponents' win%; adjusting for home and away.
Eta: there's a reason why the other sports have shifted away from RPI as well. Wins over bad teams shouldn't hurt and close losses to high ranked teams should be rewarded.
This post was edited on 5/25/24 at 4:45 am
Posted on 5/25/24 at 6:00 am to hessmersaint
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RPI Is A Joke
Agreed. Imagine arguing for RPI. Think some folks around here just like.to be argumentative. Must be lawyers.
Anyway, not many folks are talking about KPI, which the basketball committee has been using for a couple of years.
For the first time the baseball committe is now using KPI too... to what extent is the question and could be a real x factor here.
From what I can tell one of the main differences between the 2 is KPI takes into account margin of victory. Imagine Tuesday and Wednesday's beatdowns really helped us here.
current KPI rankings - You may need to use the drop-down box to select year and sport.
We currently sit at 15 in KPI. USC is 18. Vandy (16) or Tennessee (1) await their beatdown tomorrow.
More info on the change from Baseball America
College Baseball Tweaked The NCAA Tournament Selection Process. But Will It Change Anything?
The BA article above doesn't sounds very hopeful that the change will amount to much. Apparently KPI will be a resource but not a “selection criterion". In other words-the committee members will be given the information but will not be required to consider it.
All I know is, in KPI we are virtually tied with Vandy. If they beat #1 Tennessee they're certain to vault ahead of us. Duke, meanwhile, is only .001 ahead of us and Vandy. We'll likely both likely jump Duke with wins, unless they really lay the smack down on Miami in the ACCT today.
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This post was edited on 5/25/24 at 6:21 am
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