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re: Rewatching our offense with Jordan Jefferson at the helm
Posted on 5/18/20 at 7:47 am to AtlantaLSUfan
Posted on 5/18/20 at 7:47 am to AtlantaLSUfan
I remember specifically in 2010 him getting booed in 2010 in the West Virginia game.
Posted on 5/18/20 at 7:53 am to plance
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Don’t notice it until the paradigm shift of masterminds calling the plays changes.
Say/believe what you will, players can only do so much... Imagine Joe under Les...
Would look like 2018 offense.
Posted on 5/18/20 at 10:46 am to PensaTigers
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my beef with him was his attitude on the field and his play. 90% of that being his attitude on field
You cited his frustration in the 1/9 game, but what else are you talking about? I remember him being a competitor, but bad attitude? One example. That’s all you gave.
Posted on 5/18/20 at 11:12 am to Kester5144
Posted on 5/18/20 at 12:04 pm to choupic
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I remember JJ having a very slow throwing motion.
huge windup
his best year was arguable 2008 as a freshman. seemed to go downhill skills wise after that when les got a hold of him more.
Posted on 5/18/20 at 12:18 pm to RedTigerRulz
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this is the key. Les signed off on that god awful scheme for that game.
Two turds in a punch bowl together....equally culpible
JJ and DeAngelo Peterson (Sr Bowl interview) both said we didn't run the plays they practiced for. The game plan was to go 5-wide like Utah did in the '09 Sugar Bowl vs Bama. The thinking being that it neutralizes Bama's blitzing.
Why we didn't is something I would love to hear Les address. But fans need to stop faulting JJ for that. We scored 21 pts in the 2nd half vs Bama in '10 with JJ being JJ.
1/9 is 100% on Les. Period
Posted on 5/18/20 at 2:03 pm to SammyTiger
quote:That's bullshite, they were bad QB's because the damage had already been done to them playing in that garbage can of a system that Miles had them playing in. Jennings coming from a spread passing offense in high school in Marietta, GA was a top passing QB at that time when he was recruited. Harris played in a RPO offense in HS running and throwing the ball really well there for HS ball. Then they both come to LSU and start playing in that bizarre offense where half the time you didn't know what the hell they were doing. One minute they'd lineup in the power I or pistol or whatever, then they'd run the old rollout option play. Then he'd call a pass play with them lining up under center (something neither of them was familiar with doing) when they got stuffed on repeated run plays and it was 3rd and long. Just a screwed up, crazy arse type of offense if I ever saw one. Harris played that 1 season for NC and Fedora needed much more time than that to undo all the damage done to him. But even in that 1 season you could see the talent, the rocket arm and all, he was just inconsistent with his passing being all over the place as expected.
Just like Harris and Jennings sucked when they transferred. They were bad QB's.
I think had both those guys played in spread offenses (probably at other schools) from the beginning, their careers would have been totally different.
This post was edited on 5/18/20 at 2:34 pm
Posted on 5/18/20 at 2:36 pm to tubucoco
I thought Brandon was a good fit for Fedora at UNC but he struggled there as well.
FTR, AJ and BH's best moments were at the earliest parts of their time here - AJ in relief of Mett in '13 vs Arky and BH vs State in '14 - almost an amazing comeback.
FTR, AJ and BH's best moments were at the earliest parts of their time here - AJ in relief of Mett in '13 vs Arky and BH vs State in '14 - almost an amazing comeback.
Posted on 5/18/20 at 2:51 pm to AlwysATgr
yeah, Fedora just needed to have him from the beginning to play in his system for 3 to 4 years. To make him a much more efficient QB in passing the ball, not overthrowing receivers like he did. I watched some of those NC games and sometimes he would throw some beautiful passes in leading the O down the field, ropes right on the money, and then come right back the next play and do something stupid in throwing a pic off a bad pass that should have been a short TD throw. Lol
I think they were probably good early on like you said because they just played then off of natural ability without having to think too much. But once they became upper classmen and they got more into the teeth of what type of O that Miles/Cameron was running, having to think much more now, I think that really screwed them up then.
I think they were probably good early on like you said because they just played then off of natural ability without having to think too much. But once they became upper classmen and they got more into the teeth of what type of O that Miles/Cameron was running, having to think much more now, I think that really screwed them up then.
This post was edited on 5/18/20 at 3:01 pm
Posted on 5/18/20 at 4:15 pm to Maximus
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Rickey was also one of the worst multi year starters in sec history. Terrible against the run and pass.
Yes, you are 100% correct. And to think that NFL execs and coaches do their best to keep such players from having multi-year careers just validates your point.
TERRIBLE TAKE dude.
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