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re: Review of Players In/Out w PFF grades
Posted on 1/19/26 at 11:03 am to Eagle23
Posted on 1/19/26 at 11:03 am to Eagle23
Top Returning Offensive players
Treydez Green 74.8
Caden Durham 74.2
Braelin Moore 69.8
Harlem Berry 67.8
Weston Davis 46.9
Top returning Defensive players
Dj Pickett 78.6
Pj woodland 74.0
Whit Weeks 66.2
Dom McKinley 64.1
Tamarcus Cooley 57.2
Treydez Green 74.8
Caden Durham 74.2
Braelin Moore 69.8
Harlem Berry 67.8
Weston Davis 46.9
Top returning Defensive players
Dj Pickett 78.6
Pj woodland 74.0
Whit Weeks 66.2
Dom McKinley 64.1
Tamarcus Cooley 57.2
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Posted on 1/19/26 at 11:03 am to Spelt it rong
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PFF uses fricking uber drivers to help evaluate players. Grain of salt shall be taken.
You saw it in the title. Keep movin’
Posted on 1/19/26 at 11:06 am to Bert Macklin FBI
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Maybe you know something the rest of us don't but I'd hesitate to count Seaton as in. Maybe its due to past failures but it feels like we are due to miss on a big target we want.
As of this morning the insiders on premium boards still seem to think its done, I am always skeptical myself because anything can happen ultimately. But the Tiger emoji from Lane last night was for Seaton.
If we dont get Seaton I would probably say just put Harper at LT and keep the rest. Depending on Thomas' development/health maybe Thompkins could factor in LG potentially as well.
Posted on 1/19/26 at 11:07 am to Lester Earl
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Review of Players In/Out w PFF grades
at the college level they have random dudes grading out players, so i just don't think the data matters all that much. Someone said their uber driver was doing it
Posted on 1/19/26 at 11:07 am to Lester Earl
Posted on 1/19/26 at 11:10 am to SEC Doctor
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thought I read that Jones only gave up one sack on the season, seems like his grade would be higher.
Honestly, I’ve found over the years that the “sack(s) allowed” stat is often used to misleadingly frame a player by the author. Overall pressure is probably the more encompassing stat.
Jones doesn’t have a large sample size, so his one poor game vs SFA tugs on his overall grade a bit
Posted on 1/19/26 at 11:11 am to Spelt it rong
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PFF uses fricking uber drivers to help evaluate players. Grain of salt shall be taken.
Myriad of PFF is useless folks in every thread about PFF grades.
Everyone who knows PFF knows its not the bible, but again if any of you ever have a better suggestion other than "TRUST THE COACHES!" or "WATCH THE HIGHLIGHT TAPE" I am all ears/eyes for it.
People bag on PFF but never bring anything legit to the table as an alternative on how we are supposed to know how a MEAC Olinemen played last year or the past few years. Sorry nobody on here watches North Carolina central football and on their OL specifically in case you weren't aware
PFF is still having someone watching a player every single snap and grading them, does that mean they get it perfect? No. But it does mean it's datapoints to go on and directionally over time when you have a lot of data it's going to at least mean something to go on. It also doesnt mean a bad player will always be bad or a good player even always stay good. It's just reference points for this crazy time of the portal when no LSU fan is watching what some Olinemen kid did at North Carolina Central.
Yes of course they arent using highly paid coaches to grade all these players; they would go bankrupt pretty quick. They do use people who follow football though and understand how the game works and use a pretty simple method of grading every play, -2, -1, 0, 1, 2.
Again large amounts of data here are going to be directionally more relevant and look correct over time. I think we all agree someone like AJ Haulcy and Mansoor Delane played quite a bit better than Tamarcus Cooley on defense this year and the grading reflects that.
This post was edited on 1/19/26 at 11:23 am
Posted on 1/19/26 at 11:11 am to Lester Earl
Great work! 
Posted on 1/19/26 at 11:12 am to Lester Earl
It looks like every position is a net gain except maybe DB. But not only are your highest grades higher than what we lost, in most cases, the next few guys in are also higher than what we lost. This is a sign of quality depth. You love to see that. Factor in the likelihood of better coaching at most of those positions, then we almost certainly field a better team next season.
Posted on 1/19/26 at 11:12 am to Lester Earl
Thanks Lester!
Posted on 1/19/26 at 11:14 am to barry
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the college level they have random dudes grading out players, so i just don't think the data matters all that much. Someone said their uber driver was doing it
Most of us are watching nothing but where the ball is in LSU games only, Barry.
If an uber driver wants to watch every snap of Nicholls St vs Lamar to grade their 2nd string RT, I’ll take a look at is as a reference point & with nuance.
Posted on 1/19/26 at 11:22 am to thunderbird1100
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PFF is still having someone watching a player every single snap and grading them
Don’t they just do a sample of snaps?
Posted on 1/19/26 at 11:22 am to Lester Earl
How did Seaton grade? Also curious how the Ole Miss oline graded overall.
Posted on 1/19/26 at 11:24 am to Adam Banks
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Don’t they just do a sample of snaps?
No, they grade every snap in a game
Posted on 1/19/26 at 11:25 am to TigahJay
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How did Seaton grade? Also curious how the Ole Miss oline graded overall.
Seaton was in mid-high 60s the last 2 seasons...way ahead on pass blocking vs. run blocking though
Ole Miss starting 5 o-line spread from 57.0 to 69.7
So no bad players but no good players really either. Prety much all below average, average to well above average (top guy almost "good" range)
This post was edited on 1/19/26 at 11:35 am
Posted on 1/19/26 at 11:29 am to TigahJay
70.0 & above = good
50.-69.0 = varying degrees of average
50.0 & below = poor
50.-69.0 = varying degrees of average
50.0 & below = poor
Posted on 1/19/26 at 11:45 am to Lester Earl
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70.0 & above = good
50.-69.0 = varying degrees of average
50.0 & below = poor
To put this into more perspective overall
90+ elite of the elite
80-89 Very good to elite range
70-79 Good range
64-69 Above average range
57-63 Average range
50-56 Below average range
40s Bad range
30s basically worst of the worst
If I filter down to every SEC defensive player that played at least 100 snaps this past season I get 379 players for the season
Nobody graded out lower than 40.3, 5 players were in the 40s.
Nobody graded out higher than 90.7, 2 players were in the 90s (Both LSU players funny enough, 1 of them most people wouldnt be able to name given 1st shot).
24 players out of the 379 graded out 80 or higher
143 players out of the 379 graded out 70 or higher
This post was edited on 1/19/26 at 11:48 am
Posted on 1/19/26 at 11:51 am to Lester Earl
Toviano with a 38 is tough. One of the only guys left who hasn’t found a new home in the portal.
Posted on 1/19/26 at 12:00 pm to TigahJay
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Toviano with a 38 is tough. One of the only guys left who hasn’t found a new home in the portal.
Tough to go on anything when its just 68 snaps the whole season. A few bad plays could tank your grade in that case
He was low-mid 50s the previous 2 years playing a bit
Never really was able to carve out a role here after playing a lot as a freshman
This post was edited on 1/19/26 at 12:01 pm
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