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re: Remember the awesome LSU Saban years ? Ahhh The Salad Days of Yore...

Posted on 11/4/12 at 1:23 pm to
Posted by H-Town Tiger
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Posted on 11/4/12 at 1:23 pm to
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Just remember 2006(7 draft picks, all his recruits) and miles found a way to lose at auburn that year, Saban wins MNC if he's at LSU


Auburn was a top 10 team that year.
Posted by Ole Geauxt
KnowLa.
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 11/4/12 at 1:24 pm to
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I don't even think he's that great of a recruiter, at this point LSU is a brand that sells itself, we will get elite talent(most from LA) despite what moron is HC
ohhh Lawd...
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 11/4/12 at 1:25 pm to
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Ryan Periloux says hi

that's...the point
Posted by H-Town Tiger
Member since Nov 2003
61014 posts
Posted on 11/4/12 at 1:25 pm to
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The head to head matchups prove Miles can't hold his jock.



Outside of the BCS CG, the head to head is even. All the games have been close and the higher ranked team won.

So your post is also dumb
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
477244 posts
Posted on 11/4/12 at 1:25 pm to
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You want les fired?

no. we're stuck with him.

i want les to grow a pair and stop doing utterly retarded shite
Posted by ForeLSU
The Corner of Sanity and Madness
Member since Sep 2003
41525 posts
Posted on 11/4/12 at 1:26 pm to
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mauck was supposed to be our QB in 2004 but he left early. we didn't have the depth yet to truly suffer that kind of loss


to fall back on the old stand-by...well whose fault is that?
Posted by H-Town Tiger
Member since Nov 2003
61014 posts
Posted on 11/4/12 at 1:27 pm to
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I don't even think he's that great of a recruiter,

Then you are a fricking idiot

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at this point LSU is a brand that sells itself, we will get elite talent(most from LA) despite what moron is HC




If you don't like the guy, fine, but you are just making stuff up and clearly don't know anything about recruiting.
Posted by Lsupimp
Ersatz Amerika-97.6% phony & fake
Member since Nov 2003
86173 posts
Posted on 11/4/12 at 1:27 pm to
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no. we're stuck with him.
i want les to grow a pair and stop doing utterly retarded shite


Which has ZERO to do with the topic of this thread you fricking lovable troll.
Posted by DEG
Atlanta
Member since Jul 2009
10861 posts
Posted on 11/4/12 at 1:28 pm to
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That's the point


So you were being sarcastic when you said les has no excuses for lack of QB depth?
Posted by Ole Geauxt
KnowLa.
Member since Dec 2007
50880 posts
Posted on 11/4/12 at 1:28 pm to
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well whose fault is that?


according to some, it had to be Les's fault..
Posted by efrad
Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 11/4/12 at 1:29 pm to
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You really don't think miles helped turn that program around? Kind of ridiculous and you have a very limited knowledge if you don't think he did.



1995 || 4-8 || Bob Simmons
1996 || 5-6 || Bob Simmons
1997 || 8-4 || Bob Simmons
1998 || 5-6 || Bob Simmons
1999 || 5-6 || Bob Simmons
2000 || 3-8 || Bob Simmons
2001 || 4-7 || Les Miles
2002 || 8-5 || Les Miles
2003 || 9-4 || Les Miles
2004 || 7-5 || Les Miles


Simmons had 1 winning season in 6 seasons, and Miles had 3 winning seasons in 4 seasons. I'd say that's a fricking turnaround.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
477244 posts
Posted on 11/4/12 at 1:29 pm to
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to fall back on the old stand-by...well whose fault is that?

uh, we had flynn and JR as RS freshman in 2004. saban did his job at recruiting QBs
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
477244 posts
Posted on 11/4/12 at 1:30 pm to
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So you were being sarcastic when you said les has no excuses for lack of QB depth?

he doesn't

saban was building the program in 2004 still

les inherited an absolutely stocked program without depth issues at QB. there was no excuse to have no QBs for 4 years. none. it was a completely different situation in 2004, and by 2005 JR was ready
Posted by DEG
Atlanta
Member since Jul 2009
10861 posts
Posted on 11/4/12 at 1:34 pm to
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les inherited an absolutely stocked program without depth issues at QB. there was no excuse to have no QBs for 4 years. none. it was a completely different situation in 2004, and by 2005 JR was ready


Revisionist history. RP gets booted with two scholarship years remaining. You don't think him leaving hindered the development of JJ and JL? Those guys had no one to learn from?!
Posted by 225bred
COYS
Member since Jun 2011
21021 posts
Posted on 11/4/12 at 1:35 pm to
I wasn't talking about LSU recruiting itself during the Dinardo years and prior, I'm talking about now that we are elite, if you don't think LSU sells itself then you're a fricking idiot

Also, whoever said Ryan Perriloux says hi, he's another example of Les' lack of discipline on his teams which is painfully obvious, TM7... And also to think Les started that drug dealer JJ for 4 years what a moron
LSU would be the powerhouse that Bama is now if Nick would've stayed. FACT.
Posted by LSU82BILL
Fort Lauderdale, FL
Member since Sep 2006
10957 posts
Posted on 11/4/12 at 1:35 pm to
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LSU is where it is today because of Nick, any denying of that is just delusional



bullshite. You make it sound like once a program becomes relevant that the coach at that time deserves the credit for all future success. It has been 8 years since Saban left. Miles has been successful with his own recruits, his own players, his own coaches and his own systems and his own style.
Posted by Topwater Trout
Red Stick
Member since Oct 2010
70046 posts
Posted on 11/4/12 at 1:35 pm to
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. Miami fielded possibly the most talented team of all time 10 years ago and have numerous competitive advantages over UF and FSU, now they are a shell of their former self. You're delusional if you don't think that can happen to LSU.


Miami was nothing until the early 80s. They have terrible facilities. The reason they are unable to compete now is because the teams that are elite now and have much better facilities are getting recruits from Miami.

The SEC had an arm race in the 90s and early 2000s. The facilities are better which entices recruits. The rear of the cfb world is trying to catch up.
Posted by jdd267
Jennings, La
Member since Sep 2012
311 posts
Posted on 11/4/12 at 1:36 pm to
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Saban built LSU into a powerhouse. Miles didn't. Miles has done a great job sustaining what Saban built.


While i agree that we wouldnt be where we are if not for Saban, would it be true that Bear Bryant made Alabama what it is (prestige wise), and Saban benefits from that ? OF COURSE NOT !!!

Saban did a great job at LSU. Les is also doing a hell of a job...

or, Saban is just winning with the Bear's program
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
477244 posts
Posted on 11/4/12 at 1:36 pm to
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Revisionist history.

that's not revisionist history. that's what happened

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RP gets booted with two scholarship years remaining.

and it takes 4 years to recover?

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You don't think him leaving hindered the development of JJ and JL?

JR was ready in 2005
Posted by The Eric
Member since Sep 2008
24415 posts
Posted on 11/4/12 at 1:36 pm to
Saban did not build LSU. LSU built LSU. Saban helped LSU realize its potential by getting people to put up the money necessary for facility improvements.

Les Miles is a better LSU coach than Saban was an LSU coach

Saban has gotten better but his formula is still the same. Fire up the fan base and get money for facility improvements to bring in recruits.


He's a great coach but not God.
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