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Posted on 3/27/18 at 11:25 am to Mickey Goldmill
I don’t think you know how averages work
Posted on 3/27/18 at 11:31 am to Lester Earl
quote:Bama's average coaching age is +/- 45 yrs old, take out Saban at 67 and it's +/- 43 yrs old. Burton Burns is a year younger than Saban and he's an Asst AD, not an on-the-field coach any longer.
Bama s OC is 50 & burton burns is almost 70. I don’t really think the age of our staff is abnormally old
A program needs a mixture of young energetic guys and some well seasoned/experienced guys. The key is to get a variation of ideas/techniques and a HC with a willingness to adjust/evolve/change when needed.
This post was edited on 3/27/18 at 11:37 am
Posted on 3/27/18 at 11:37 am to Bottom9
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What a slapdick. So we can't try to get better because "we have to know our place" and we "aren't one of the big boys?" So fricking stupid
Well he has a point. The “big boys” don’t fire the most successful coach in their history and replace him with the worst coach in Ole Mis’ history.
That kind of move won’t ever get you a seat at the big boy table.
Posted on 3/27/18 at 11:38 am to Solo Cam
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I do think it’s pretty funny that Saban doesn’t win he national title in recruiting and immediately make changes on his staff to make them younger and we made changes To get older.
Thats what makes the great ones great. Remember when alabama was having trouble stopping the spread offense. What did Saban do the next year he installed the spread offense. Adjustments and willingness to makes changes is the key. What did miles do when his offense was stopped by good defenses? kept doing the same thing. Thats why he still has no job. I give credit to O for seeing an issue with the offense from last year and making changes but still think he should have brought in a young offensive mind that had already been versed in a wide open offense not promoting Steve E. but either way he did make a change. Credit for that.
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Doug Nussmeir 47
He left for a pro gig if im not mistaken.
This post was edited on 3/27/18 at 11:42 am
Posted on 3/27/18 at 11:38 am to H-Town Tiger
I've been at this place for a pretty good while now. I can't remember a time when the mention of a head coach having good year whips so many chicken littles into a frenzy. It is truly amazing where this fanbase has gone.
Posted on 3/27/18 at 11:45 am to FLObserver
quote:CEO has hired some youth at the analyst positions, these guys will be useful and a great tool for the coordinators, provided there's a willingness to try new things.
Adjustments and willingness to makes changes is the key.
Posted on 3/27/18 at 11:46 am to RT1941
quote:
A program needs a mixture of young energetic guys and some well seasoned/experienced guys.
I dont disagree, but I think age kind of overrated and has been so even more in recent years as head coaching hires get younger and younger. The successful ones are exceptions to the rule.
If you ask the general LSU fan, they would blindly hire most 30-something year old coach over the 50 year old guy.. "Hes young!!! HE must be a prodigy!!!"....that's how they think.
truth be told, LSU has 3 full time coaches 44 & younger (Meatball, ARanda, and Cregg) and two others 50 and younger (Joseph, Raymond).
And Just about their whole football support staff is under 40.
Posted on 3/27/18 at 11:48 am to Lester Earl
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LSU has also hired these coaches/analysts to the staff this offseason:
As critical as I’ve been of Orgeron I do have to give him major credit for this. It’s a very positive sign that they are increasing the support staff with what appears to be good hires.
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Anyway, I think age is pretty irrelevant with a coach, though. Pretty weak attack overall. Pete Jenkins was a fossil and players swear by him. The same way guys like Larry Fitzgerald endorse Jerry Sullivan as the best coach he's ever had.
To be frank I really don’t care what players say. I do not doubt either are good or even great coaches but that’s only part of the job. Jenkins didn’t recruit, they are lucky to have Thomas and get a waiver in the recruiting end, but that’s not a long term solution. Position coaches need to recruit hire Jenkins and Sullivan as analyst or guest coaches for camps (if that’s allowed) but on the full time staff I’d rather have young, hungry guys that are relentless recruiters and can bring fresh ideas
ETA having an retiree or maybe 2 on staff would be fine if the rest of the staff was stronger, I really don’t see how hiring a 60 yo OC that hasn’t been a full time OC for 20 years is a model for success
This post was edited on 3/27/18 at 11:50 am
Posted on 3/27/18 at 11:48 am to H-Town Tiger
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He also said how Saban was making his staff younger, he’s looking ahead and wanted fresh ideas on his staff. Meanwhile we’re hiring a 60 yo that hasn’t been an OC in 20 years and 73 yo WR coach and another retiree as ST coach
By any logical reasoning, it's absolutely insane what LSU is doing to its football program. The only people who seek to justify it are O blind supporters.
Posted on 3/27/18 at 11:50 am to H-Town Tiger
I am 71 and you can frick your self!!!
Posted on 3/27/18 at 11:52 am to Solo Cam
Exactly , who the heck says this, except the O haters? Drop it...thats enough.
Posted on 3/27/18 at 11:52 am to Tigerbait231
quote:
It is truly amazing where this fanbase has gone.
It’s amazing where the PROGRAM has gone. The fan base is just reacting to it. Name another time in LSU’s history where we hired a coach with Orgeron’s record.
Posted on 3/27/18 at 11:54 am to H-Town Tiger
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really don’t see how hiring a 60 yo OC that hasn’t been a full time OC for 20 years is a model for success
Still don’t see how his age is relevant. Coaches can age & still stick with the times.
The fact that he hasn’t been an OC in 2 decades is a legitimate gripe on paper
This post was edited on 3/27/18 at 11:56 am
Posted on 3/27/18 at 11:54 am to Lester Earl
quote:Your fans are a mixed bag and have been for years.
I dont disagree, but I think age kind of overrated and has been so even more in recent years as head coaching hires get younger and younger. The successful ones are exceptions to the rule.
If you ask the general LSU fan, they would blindly hire most 30-something year old coach over the 50 year old guy.. "Hes young!!! HE must be a prodigy!!!"....that's how they think.
truth be told, LSU has 3 full time coaches 44 & younger (Meatball, ARanda, and Cregg) and two others 50 and younger (Joseph, Raymond).
And Just about their whole football support staff is under 40.
I look at the staff and see a good mix honestly. CEO is not a stupid man, he knows where he has issues and he'll know when to step away and let his coaches do their job. He's not about to light the fuse and watch the place burn down.
Posted on 3/27/18 at 11:55 am to Nissanmaxima
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This is all complete horse shite! You hire coaches who can coach regardless of their age!!
Ummm...so then explain why Mickey Joseph was hired by O, yet is what is clearly a horrible, horrible coach. Why? Because he can recruit supposedly, yet he failed there too.
O doesn't have the sway and weight to actually earn the respect of HS coaches, so he tries to buy his way in with shitty hires.
Posted on 3/27/18 at 11:58 am to Lester Earl
quote:
Still don’t see how his age is relevant. Coaches can age & still stick with the times. The fact that he hasn’t been an OC in 2 decades is a legitimate gripe.
It's the combination of factors that makes it a baffling hire.
If he hadn't been an OC before, ok, if he's young and has promise, room to grow and an eye toward the future, that makes sense.
If he was 60 but had a wealth of good experience, then again, that makes sense.
But he's 60 and has a lack of recent good experience. That's worse than either factor by itself.
This post was edited on 3/27/18 at 12:00 pm
Posted on 3/27/18 at 11:58 am to H-Town Tiger
H-Town.... this is totally irrelevant.
Posted on 3/27/18 at 12:01 pm to H-Town Tiger
H_Town. I am officially putting you on suicide watch.....’why such negativity
Posted on 3/27/18 at 12:04 pm to H-Town Tiger
I bet Rece was biting his tongue real hard not to laugh saying Ed O is a good coach.
The bowl game FG truly destroyed any confidence I had. I have never seen a bigger bitch scared move than that.
The bowl game FG truly destroyed any confidence I had. I have never seen a bigger bitch scared move than that.
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