re: Reali-Tigers are you out there?

Va Tiger Fan, I am not disagreeing with you. I understand the need to pay to keep up with the big programs, but you can't pay be just a CEO like people claim in college football. That is where the investment becomes an issue. Saban runs the defense at Bama, while Meyer, Petrino, Nutt, etc. run their offenses.

I think people over react wanting him fired even if we lost yesterday. He got a year to fix the defense, and now should get a year to fix the offense.

I do think the AD, TAF, and BOS should be looking out for LSU's best interests and not give him the roll-over extension this year. Given the past two seasons, I feel that's reasonable and would quell some of the frustrations/fears of fans.

i have no complaints on miles when it comes to his recruiting but i hear constantly about his record being so much better than any other coach. since he has been here it seems our team is in a constant decline nothing very fast but declining none the less. i also hear people bitching about his play calls and decisions that are made on the field. when a coach makes 4 mil. a year he shouldn't make foolish calls or not have his shite together during the game. so people should expect alot from him and his staff.when saban became the coach at lsu he didn't have near the talent that miles had when he started so he had to build a team which he did.stats can be very tricky if you don't look at the facts. todays baseball players cannot be compaired to yesteryears players due to roids and other performance drugs.saban's time here had the team in an incline but miles appears to be in a decline.

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I don't see how that equates to a mediocre program before 03.

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According to the Rant, 9-3 with some close wins equals mediocre. You have to remember your audience.

Lonnie - you might be right.. mediocre might be too strong of a word, but prior to 2003 we were a B or B- program. The 60's through the 80's we won alot of games, and we went to bowls 6 or 7 times each decade. But we never made the leap to powerhouse. No NC's, many of the bowls were second tier, few SEC championships, not many super elite, big name players.... The 90's didn't happen. I refuse to even acknowledge it. My point was/is, we just weren't this overpowering juggernaut that was ruling the college football landscape like some people think we were.

And Mafia - I 110% agree. Les Miles should not get the one year extension added on this year. If the powers that be are worth their salt, they'll be having this conversation this week with Les - "Get Gary Crowton out of here, go out and hire your guy, but you gotta make it work and we want to see improvements on the field. After two years of struggles, the expectations are to win the West next year and be BCS eligible. Do that, and we'll talk contract." That's a fair deal to Miles, and I expect that he and his agent know that.

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The man made a mistake in promoting Malveto in 2008, and rectified it

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There weren't any very good DCs available, so he had to play the waiting game. If it weren't for that decision we wouldn't have Chavis right now. Next year, you are going to be extremely happy that we suffered through Malveto to get the dominating defense we will have

I hope you're right. I don't think that is the only reason he hired Malveto.

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My point was/is, we just weren't this overpowering juggernaut that was ruling the college football landscape like some people think we were.

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I have no disagreement with the above statement.

As to an extension, how does LSU give one last yr, if they did, and not this yr when this yr Miles could well have 10 wins, a 3rd place finish in the SEC, and a top 10 team? All of which would be a significant improvement from 08 when he was awarded an extension.

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I agree with some of what you said, but I have to question your statement above. LSU is ranked #14 in the nation in over-all winning percentage

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12th in all-time wins.

LSU was prevalent before the 80s. because the program had a rough time doesn't mean their success before doesn't matter.

one championship in '58 sure, but throughout the 50s and 60s LSU was big, as was ole miss.

NCAA also recognizes us as having more championships, we just don't claim them.

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Next year should be an improvement on this one. If it's not, then we may have some thinking to do on who our leader is. For now, we just need to keep things in perspective.

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Does you son have Cancer? My youngest daughter has Cystic Fibrosis.

The post was right on. The problem is... most LSU fans forget that:
1- Dinardo was a good recruiter and the 2000 team was loaded with talent.
2-Saban did get the program turned in expecting SEC Championships but lost to many unranked teams including UAB.
3- Miles is in his 5th year. He owns every part of the program now. In 2004 (Saban's 5th year as well) we went to the Cap 1 bowl and no one thought the team underachieved even though we won a NC the year before. We improve our record and bowl from 08-09 and everyone thinks we are on the road to hell.
4- Miles is sappy and goofy and will never be taken serious. I am ok with this but if you get teh chance to hear Bear Bryant interviewed Miles sounds good.
5- Bottomline... 95% of LSU fans didn't want Miles hired (me included) and 60% of fans think LSU would be better without him now 5 years later (me not included). That is reality.

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I mean, let's face it, before 2003 we were AT BEST a mediocre program in a big time conference

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Other than the 90's, LSU has been a consistent top 15 program (at worst) since the late 1920's.