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re: Rational v. Emotional thinking: the posi-nega distinction
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don't act like 9-3 was a disasterous year
9-4
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but the sky ain't fricking falling.
yeah it's pretty much fallin.


LNCHBOX
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re: Rational v. Emotional thinking: the posi-nega distinction
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and don't act like 9-3 was a disasterous year


Funny how now the CheeriOs pretend the bowl game didn't happen now that the 10 win season talking point was lost.


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re: Rational v. Emotional thinking: the posi-nega distinction
Solid post SFP. It’s always interesting to me to look at the psychological side of this place... My opinion is that there are two, maybe three ways to take all of this in

You can be negative and swear that the world is crumbling down around the LSU football program

Or you can be positive and have a ‘wait and see’ type of approach for the upcoming season

Neither one is ‘wrong’, it’s just that the two factions are always in close proximity which has led to each side arguing and bickering nonstop because everyone thinks they are right

the positive people are sick of all the negativity, and the negative people are sick of all the ‘sunshine pumping’


It’s pretty simple IMO



I do find it funny that one, maybe two threads have questioned anything about the type of offense we are going to run.. usually by this point in the game, we’ve moved on to that part of the discussion.. I guess that will come when (if) the outrage ever subsides


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ulsaint
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re: Rational v. Emotional thinking: the posi-nega distinction
This will go right over the heads of O supporters.


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Topwater Trout
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re: Rational v. Emotional thinking: the posi-nega distinction
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yeah it's pretty much fallin.


worse than 2008, 2009, 2014?


therick711
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re: Rational v. Emotional thinking: the posi-nega distinction
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I never heard Orgeron claim a complete rebuild. many on here did. and I never heard O was hired to avoid a rebuild.


I literally heard Jordy Culotta say "People in the building are telling us that there are systemic roster problems that cannot be solved during the season. People in the building are telling me that we will have to recruit our way out of it over the next few seasons. I believe Orgeron is the right man for the job because of his recruiting pedigree."

He didn't use the words "complete rebuild" in that diatribe, yet that's what he's describing. Systemic roster problems. Multiple recruiting classes. You tell me.


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worse than 2008, 2009, 2014?




That guy was fired to get better. Cherry picking his worst years, while ignoring O's spectacularly terrible losses in September that Miles never had, is just laughable.


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re: Rational v. Emotional thinking: the posi-nega distinction


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My goal is to build a championship program fast, very fast. I understand the expectations at LSU and I invite them, because I have the same expectations of myself and my staff.


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Q. I asked last week about how close this team was to winning an SEC Championship. Alabama has been the benchmark for the league for a few years now. Any more thoughts about how far away this program is from being able to compete at this level as consistently as that? COACH ORGERON: I believe that we can compete for it very fast. Now that I've been given full rein in the future, and I have a vision, there's certain pieces of the puzzle that have to come together. I do believe they will come together. Once they come together, off we go.


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Q. Ohio State is playing Michigan right now. Two coaches are judged basically on what happens in that game. Do you feel you will be judged on what happens on that first Saturday in November? What do you have to do to narrow the gap and win that game?

COACH ORGERON: Yes, you are judged by that game. That's the nature of the beast. I welcome it. I bring it on. I can't wait till the day we beat those guys. That's the benchmark.

Now, we have to recruit better. We have to get players that are very similar to the benchmark of this conference. We have to get coaches that can coach at that level. We have some coaches on the staff that can. We have to have the mindset that we can go out and beat those guys.

I tell you what, for the most part of that last time we played them, we had it. There's a couple of pieces missing. We plan to fix those pieces so we can get that job accomplished. That is the benchmark every day we go to work. We understand the benchmark.


WHAT REBUILD?


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Topwater Trout
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never heard Orgeron


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I literally heard Jordy Culotta say


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"People in the building


how was Grandad wrong saying he never heard Orgeron say it?


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re: Rational v. Emotional thinking: the posi-nega distinction
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A wall of text attempting to rationalize acting like a 12 year old that knows absolutely nothing about how real football works.


Exibit A of emotional thinking.


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Topwater Trout
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re: Rational v. Emotional thinking: the posi-nega distinction
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ignoring O's spectacularly terrible losses in September that Miles never had, is just laughable.



Any coach that gets hired from now on only gets 1 year to win 10 games? is that your stance?


LNCHBOX
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re: Rational v. Emotional thinking: the posi-nega distinction
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Any coach that gets hired from now on only gets 1 year to win 10 games? is that your stance?



If they are as equally unqualified as O was? Yes.
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therick711
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re: Rational v. Emotional thinking: the posi-nega distinction
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how was Grandad wrong saying he never heard Orgeron say it?


I'm not saying he was wrong. I'm saying the building put that out there to their media allies. Jordy spent an entire week talking about how Miles left nothing on the lines and that the problems would be persistent throughout the year in every matchup. If only there was some known connection between Jordy and the Building that might give us some insight on who was providing that talking point.


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Mo Jeaux
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re: Rational v. Emotional thinking: the posi-nega distinction
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Funny how now the CheeriOs pretend the bowl game didn't happen now that the 10 win season talking point was lost.


10 wins! Possible top 10 finish!


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therick711
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re: Rational v. Emotional thinking: the posi-nega distinction
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Any coach that gets hired from now on only gets 1 year to win 10 games? is that your stance?


How about we just say any coach with a career losing record at the time of hiring.


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justice
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re: Rational v. Emotional thinking: the posi-nega distinction
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Any coach that gets hired from now on only gets 1 year to win 10 games? is that your stance?
when the coach is O, yes. he is a disaster.


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BilJ
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re: Rational v. Emotional thinking: the posi-nega distinction
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and don't act like 9-3 was a disasterous year.


not a disaster but it took a total anomaly of a conference schedule to get there. I don't think we were a good football team this season. Not a bad one, but not good either.


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Mo Jeaux
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re: Rational v. Emotional thinking: the posi-nega distinction
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Any worst coach in Ole Miss history that LSU inexplicably hires from now on only gets 1 year to win 10 games? is that your stance?


FIFY, and yes, yes that's my stance.


therick711
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re: Rational v. Emotional thinking: the posi-nega distinction
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and don't act like 9-3 was a disasterous year.


Our best win was against Auburn. What would you say our second best win was?


BilJ
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re: Rational v. Emotional thinking: the posi-nega distinction
well since A&M was the only other team that made a bowl in our W column..of course they too fired their coach the week of the game


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