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re: Rational v. Emotional thinking: the posi-nega distinction
Posted on 1/11/18 at 9:57 am to LSU GrandDad
Posted on 1/11/18 at 9:57 am to LSU GrandDad
quote:9-4
don't act like 9-3 was a disasterous year
quote:yeah it's pretty much fallin.
but the sky ain't fricking falling.
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Posted on 1/11/18 at 9:58 am to LSU GrandDad
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and don't act like 9-3 was a disasterous year
Funny how now the CheeriOs pretend the bowl game didn't happen now that the 10 win season talking point was lost.
Posted on 1/11/18 at 9:58 am to SlowFlowPro
Solid post SFP. It’s always interesting to me to look at the psychological side of this place... My opinion is that there are two, maybe three ways to take all of this in
You can be negative and swear that the world is crumbling down around the LSU football program
Or you can be positive and have a ‘wait and see’ type of approach for the upcoming season
Neither one is ‘wrong’, it’s just that the two factions are always in close proximity which has led to each side arguing and bickering nonstop because everyone thinks they are right
the positive people are sick of all the negativity, and the negative people are sick of all the ‘sunshine pumping’
It’s pretty simple IMO
I do find it funny that one, maybe two threads have questioned anything about the type of offense we are going to run.. usually by this point in the game, we’ve moved on to that part of the discussion.. I guess that will come when (if) the outrage ever subsides
You can be negative and swear that the world is crumbling down around the LSU football program
Or you can be positive and have a ‘wait and see’ type of approach for the upcoming season
Neither one is ‘wrong’, it’s just that the two factions are always in close proximity which has led to each side arguing and bickering nonstop because everyone thinks they are right
the positive people are sick of all the negativity, and the negative people are sick of all the ‘sunshine pumping’
It’s pretty simple IMO
I do find it funny that one, maybe two threads have questioned anything about the type of offense we are going to run.. usually by this point in the game, we’ve moved on to that part of the discussion.. I guess that will come when (if) the outrage ever subsides
Posted on 1/11/18 at 9:59 am to SlowFlowPro
This will go right over the heads of O supporters.
Posted on 1/11/18 at 10:01 am to justice
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yeah it's pretty much fallin.
worse than 2008, 2009, 2014?
Posted on 1/11/18 at 10:02 am to LSU GrandDad
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I never heard Orgeron claim a complete rebuild. many on here did. and I never heard O was hired to avoid a rebuild.
I literally heard Jordy Culotta say "People in the building are telling us that there are systemic roster problems that cannot be solved during the season. People in the building are telling me that we will have to recruit our way out of it over the next few seasons. I believe Orgeron is the right man for the job because of his recruiting pedigree."
He didn't use the words "complete rebuild" in that diatribe, yet that's what he's describing. Systemic roster problems. Multiple recruiting classes. You tell me.
Posted on 1/11/18 at 10:02 am to Topwater Trout
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worse than 2008, 2009, 2014?
That guy was fired to get better. Cherry picking his worst years, while ignoring O's spectacularly terrible losses in September that Miles never had, is just laughable.
Posted on 1/11/18 at 10:04 am to SlowFlowPro
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My goal is to build a championship program fast, very fast. I understand the expectations at LSU and I invite them, because I have the same expectations of myself and my staff.
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Q. I asked last week about how close this team was to winning an SEC Championship. Alabama has been the benchmark for the league for a few years now. Any more thoughts about how far away this program is from being able to compete at this level as consistently as that? COACH ORGERON: I believe that we can compete for it very fast. Now that I've been given full rein in the future, and I have a vision, there's certain pieces of the puzzle that have to come together. I do believe they will come together. Once they come together, off we go.
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Q. Ohio State is playing Michigan right now. Two coaches are judged basically on what happens in that game. Do you feel you will be judged on what happens on that first Saturday in November? What do you have to do to narrow the gap and win that game?
COACH ORGERON: Yes, you are judged by that game. That's the nature of the beast. I welcome it. I bring it on. I can't wait till the day we beat those guys. That's the benchmark.
Now, we have to recruit better. We have to get players that are very similar to the benchmark of this conference. We have to get coaches that can coach at that level. We have some coaches on the staff that can. We have to have the mindset that we can go out and beat those guys.
I tell you what, for the most part of that last time we played them, we had it. There's a couple of pieces missing. We plan to fix those pieces so we can get that job accomplished. That is the benchmark every day we go to work. We understand the benchmark.
WHAT REBUILD?
This post was edited on 1/11/18 at 10:07 am
Posted on 1/11/18 at 10:04 am to therick711
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never heard Orgeron
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I literally heard Jordy Culotta say
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"People in the building
how was Grandad wrong saying he never heard Orgeron say it?
Posted on 1/11/18 at 10:05 am to TGFN57
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A wall of text attempting to rationalize acting like a 12 year old that knows absolutely nothing about how real football works.
Exibit A of emotional thinking.
Posted on 1/11/18 at 10:05 am to LNCHBOX
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ignoring O's spectacularly terrible losses in September that Miles never had, is just laughable.
Any coach that gets hired from now on only gets 1 year to win 10 games? is that your stance?
Posted on 1/11/18 at 10:06 am to Topwater Trout
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Any coach that gets hired from now on only gets 1 year to win 10 games? is that your stance?
If they are as equally unqualified as O was? Yes.
This post was edited on 1/11/18 at 10:07 am
Posted on 1/11/18 at 10:07 am to Topwater Trout
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how was Grandad wrong saying he never heard Orgeron say it?
I'm not saying he was wrong. I'm saying the building put that out there to their media allies. Jordy spent an entire week talking about how Miles left nothing on the lines and that the problems would be persistent throughout the year in every matchup. If only there was some known connection between Jordy and the Building that might give us some insight on who was providing that talking point.
Posted on 1/11/18 at 10:07 am to LNCHBOX
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Funny how now the CheeriOs pretend the bowl game didn't happen now that the 10 win season talking point was lost.
10 wins! Possible top 10 finish!Posted on 1/11/18 at 10:08 am to Topwater Trout
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Any coach that gets hired from now on only gets 1 year to win 10 games? is that your stance?
How about we just say any coach with a career losing record at the time of hiring.
Posted on 1/11/18 at 10:08 am to Topwater Trout
quote:when the coach is O, yes. he is a disaster.
Any coach that gets hired from now on only gets 1 year to win 10 games? is that your stance?
Posted on 1/11/18 at 10:09 am to LSU GrandDad
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and don't act like 9-3 was a disasterous year.
not a disaster but it took a total anomaly of a conference schedule to get there. I don't think we were a good football team this season. Not a bad one, but not good either.
Posted on 1/11/18 at 10:09 am to Topwater Trout
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Any worst coach in Ole Miss history that LSU inexplicably hires from now on only gets 1 year to win 10 games? is that your stance?
FIFY, and yes, yes that's my stance.
Posted on 1/11/18 at 10:10 am to LSU GrandDad
quote:
and don't act like 9-3 was a disasterous year.
Our best win was against Auburn. What would you say our second best win was?
Posted on 1/11/18 at 10:23 am to therick711
well since A&M was the only other team that made a bowl in our W column..of course they too fired their coach the week of the game
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