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re: Rant...Institute a "Salary" Cap
Posted on 12/3/24 at 11:17 am to TexasBoudinKing
Posted on 12/3/24 at 11:17 am to TexasBoudinKing
You can't put a salary cap on NIL. The NBA, NFL have salary caps, but there isn't a cap on what endorsements a player can have. Why do you think players want to go to big market teams like New York and LA?
Whenever universities can start paying players, that can be capped, but it will do absolutely nothing to stop NIL. You can't cap what schools are paying players, because that number is technically 0.
Is this still really that hard to comprehend?
Whenever universities can start paying players, that can be capped, but it will do absolutely nothing to stop NIL. You can't cap what schools are paying players, because that number is technically 0.
Is this still really that hard to comprehend?
This post was edited on 12/3/24 at 11:18 am
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Posted on 12/3/24 at 11:23 am to NotaStarGazer
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I'm not a lawyer and apparently neither are you because your statement is wrong. You CAN implement a salary cap. The salary cap is NOT on the players...it is on the colleges.
You are discussing two different things.
The colleges/NCAA cannot legally "cap" NIL. There is no "NIL" cap in professional sports either. State Farm can pay Patrick Mahomes $300M if they want for use of his NIL and there is nothing the NFL can do to stop them.
A salary cap is different. But in order to have a salary cap you must first have a salary. Players aren't paid a "salary" by an employer. You can call the NIL deals a "salary" all you want, but legally they are not. Until players are paid a salary any discussions of a "salary cap" are totally irrelevant.
Posted on 12/3/24 at 11:26 am to TexasBoudinKing
Hannagriff says something will be in place by 2026.
Posted on 12/3/24 at 11:26 am to TexasBoudinKing
Should “they” create a salary cap at your work place?
Posted on 12/3/24 at 11:27 am to TexasBoudinKing
There will only be 5-6 teams that will compete for championships long term if something isn’t done. I don’t pretend to know the answer though
Posted on 12/3/24 at 11:34 am to ProjectP2294
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Who is collectively bargaining on the side of the players to get that implemented?
Because without that, it's never going to happen and it's honestly really fricking stupid of people to keep bringing it up like it's a reality.
It’s been clear as day for years that it’s headed this way. The NCAA banked on getting protection from Congress and failed, instead of being pragmatic about the future.
To be fair, though, the NCAA represents all member institutions - not just the power 4 conferences - so they are dealing with a bit of an identity crisis.
Posted on 12/3/24 at 11:40 am to TexasBoudinKing
Great now I'm sure you'd like to apply a salary cap to your job as well
Posted on 12/3/24 at 11:40 am to TexasBoudinKing
Nm
This post was edited on 12/3/24 at 11:42 am
Posted on 12/3/24 at 11:45 am to AtlantaLSUfan
I confused at how we're three years into this and people still think a salary cap can be put into effect. Think about it. Salary. Are these guys getting paid a salary? No. How can you cap something that doesn't exist? These guys are essentially getting paid commercial money. If that helps you think about it, go with that. Imagine congress restricting how many commercials you can be in. They can't. There, brain block resolved and now you know why salary caps can't work.
Posted on 12/3/24 at 11:46 am to TexasBoudinKing
An even quicker fix: All of us idiots can stop watching. TV revenue was the first nail in CFB's coffin; the Supreme Count decision was the last.
We're all having trouble adjusting to the fact that the sport as we knew it is dead. Quickly devolving into something where I think LSU will struggle to compete.
I'll stop watching next year.
We're all having trouble adjusting to the fact that the sport as we knew it is dead. Quickly devolving into something where I think LSU will struggle to compete.
I'll stop watching next year.
Posted on 12/3/24 at 11:54 am to Sharlo
Make them university employees and cap the salary at an even number for every player across the board. Give them bonuses for exemplary play. (SEC lineman of the week, Thorpe award, etc). That’s incentive. Bonuses remain the same across the board also.
Posted on 12/3/24 at 1:19 pm to PotatoChip
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There will only be 5-6 teams that will compete for championships long term if something isn’t done
It's like some of you pay absolutely zero attention. For years there has been 2-3 teams max that were legit contenders. Right now you can make a legit argument as to why probably 8 teams will win a national championship.
Posted on 12/3/24 at 1:56 pm to Vanilla Thunder
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Make them university employees and cap the salary at an even number for every player across the board. Give them bonuses for exemplary play. (SEC lineman of the week, Thorpe award, etc). That’s incentive. Bonuses remain the same across the board also.
OMFGGGGGGGGG that won't stop NIL. Stop the insanity!!!!! Do you people really not know what the word salary means?
Posted on 12/3/24 at 2:13 pm to Alt26
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Players aren't paid a "salary" by an employer. You can call the NIL deals a "salary" all you want, but legally they are not. Until players are paid a salary any discussions of a "salary cap" are totally irrelevant.
This coming this spring with revenue sharing yet still NIL is a different beast & players will still be able to capitalize from it.
Posted on 12/3/24 at 2:19 pm to Ingeniero
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Does the university tell all the other athletes on the gymnastics team that they aren't allowed to accept any NIL deals?
Once again, the salary cap would be on the universities not on the athletes. Thus, that hypothetical gymnastics deal would be between that athlete and the company...NOT involved with the university and NOT subject to the cap. The problem now is NOT with a Livvy done type deal. She could have an independent deal with a company and it wouldn't be tied to any specific university...obviously I'm talking about her during "recruiting". Since she is already at LSU, pretty much all of this is irrelevant anyway. When I talk "cap", I'm talking the university supplied pay and any booster supplied payments. Once again, you would have to have a mechanism to prevent boosters from under the table payments but that is no different that it has ever been. Some boosters have been deemed personal non grata in the past and that has been upheld legally BTW.
This post was edited on 12/3/24 at 2:22 pm
Posted on 12/3/24 at 4:12 pm to BigBrod81
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This coming this spring with revenue sharing yet still NIL
I suspect you will quickly see anti-trust challenges to the revenue sharing agreement. Unlike in the pro leagues where there players and owners have collectively bargained and agreed upon the revenue sharing structure, here the players will argue the NCAA is unlawfully capping the marketplace at 22%. You're also likely to see some Title IX challenges based upon equal pay. In a pure business sense the football and men's basketball should be paid much more than the other athletes because their sports generate the lions share of the revenue. However, Title IX may not allow that.
It's a step, but I'm not sure how significant it will be. Like you said, the school will now be able to pay the players an amount...but that's not going to prevent the wealthy donor from offering a $2.0M NIL package too
Posted on 12/3/24 at 4:15 pm to Alt26
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I suspect you will quickly see anti-trust challenges to the revenue sharing agreement. Unlike in the pro leagues where there players and owners have collectively bargained and agreed upon the revenue sharing structure, here the players will argue the NCAA is unlawfully capping the marketplace at 22%. You're also likely to see some Title IX challenges based upon equal pay. In a pure business sense the football and men's basketball should be paid much more than the other athletes because their sports generate the lions share of the revenue. However, Title IX may not allow that.
If that happens, revenue sharing could turn out to be an even bigger shitshow than NIL currently is.
Posted on 12/3/24 at 4:18 pm to Ingeniero
Players incoming freshmen you think they care about a losing streak they care about the cash , jewelry, cars bling at the moment. Parents care about retirement, paying bills food on the table .
Posted on 12/3/24 at 4:37 pm to drizztiger
quote:quote:And ends, “In summary of my topic, BK sucks.”
Rant...Institute a "Salary" Cap
Seems like everyone with Boudin in their name is either an idiot or a troll
Posted on 12/3/24 at 4:42 pm to NotaStarGazer
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Once again, the salary cap would be on the universities not on the athletes.
I'm not quite following. Are you saying the "cap" would be on the amount the school could pay? If so, there already is a cap on that. It's effectively zero. The schools can't pay the players to play. They can give them stipends. Provide room, board, meals, education, at no cost to the athlete, but they can't pay them a salary.
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When I talk "cap", I'm talking the university supplied pay and any booster supplied payments. Once again, you would have to have a mechanism to prevent boosters from under the table payments but that is no different that it has ever been. Some boosters have been deemed personal non grata in the past and that has been upheld legally BTW.
I think you are conflating two different things here. A "booster" can pay a kid anything he/she wants in the form of an NIL deal and there is nothing the school, conference, NCAA can do to "cap" it.
The schools are about to enter into a revenue sharing model. However, aside from likely legal challenges to that, it won't do anything to "cap" NIL.
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