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re: Question for older LSU basketball fans (following them since the 80s at the latest)
Posted on 1/22/15 at 9:01 am to NorthEndZone
Posted on 1/22/15 at 9:01 am to NorthEndZone
Where does Ricky Blanton's final 4 teams fit with this. They played Hakeems's Phi Slamma Jamma in the PMAC and Ewings Georgetown team in the dome.
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Posted on 1/22/15 at 9:01 am to NorthEndZone
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1983 was maybe the deepest class ever:
Nikita Wilson
Anthony Wilson
Oliver Brown
Dennis Brown
Damon Vance
Nikita Wilson---Good college player
Anthony Wilson---Decent college player
Oliver Brown---Decent defensive player--zero offense
Dennis Brown---An ok player at best
Damon Vance---Had potential, but it never came to fruition
Posted on 1/22/15 at 9:10 am to Big Moe
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Is 2015 the best recruiting class LSU has ever had? Obviously Shaq was a force like no other, but does the combination of Simmons and Blakeney w/ Craig Victor joining the team make this class even better than those of the 80s and 90s?
Now, That's funny. It makes me realize how little younger people know about those years. They'd poop their pants if the saw the 1981 team, or the 86 team or the Shaq/Stanly/CJ/Blanton/Williamson/Singleton era teams.
I mean imagine the reaction if LSU had a freshman that stepped into a senior laden league and averaged 30.5 points a game like Chris Jackson did?
And the 79-81 teams ? Are you kidding me? Rudy Macklin, Ethan Martin, Hi C Carter, Willie Sims, Greg Cook, Dwayne Scales, Johnny Jones, Jordy Hultberg , John Tudor, etc...
Let Johnny sign four more top 20 type kids next year, and have top-tier talent riding the bench, and we will talk. For now, they remind me more of The Stromile Swift era team which was uber-talented but FAR from that 79- 81 era team of freakishly talented upperclassmen.
Posted on 1/22/15 at 9:12 am to calitiger
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you have a team that should have been much more successful
Yep, saw these guys lose to Georgia at Athens in Feb 1990...made no sense with the talent we had. But did see them beat Vandy in Nashville. During half-time of that game I walked courtside and stood under the LSU goal while Roberts and Shaq were warming-up... they were monsters...
Posted on 1/22/15 at 9:16 am to Tigerinthehollow
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Shaq was not a highly ranked player before he came to LSU.
He was a very highly ranked player out of Texas
Yeah, he may not have been a consensus #1 national recruit, but to say he wasn't "a highly ranked player" is just silly. He was certainly a big time recruit then.
Posted on 1/22/15 at 9:18 am to Lsupimp
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And the 79-81 teams ? Are you kidding me? Rudy Macklin, Ethan Martin, Hi C Carter, Willie Sims, Greg Cook, Dwayne Scales, Johnny Jones, Jordy Hultberg ,
Those guys were really good and knew how to play with a mean streak. They'd dominate most everyone the played.
Posted on 1/22/15 at 9:23 am to Abe1961
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Abe1961
Was scales, macklin, cook, Ethan Martin and willie sims in the same class?
1976 - Jordy Hultberg, Rudy Macklin, Greg Cook, Rick Mattick, Duane DeArmond, Andy Campbell, Len Breda, Scott Spencer
1977 - Willie Sims, Ethan Martin, Dwayne Scales, Walter Campbell
1978 - Joe Costello, J. Brian Bergeron, Gus Rudolph
1979 - Howard Carter, Tyrone Black
1980 - Leonard Mitchell, Johnny Jones, John Tudor, Matt England, Brian Kistler
That is where the starting 5 for the 1980-81 Final Four team came from:
Ethan Martin
Howard Carter
Rudy Macklin
Greg Cook
Leonard Mitchell
Posted on 1/22/15 at 9:25 am to Skillet
Lol at the idea these guys weren't national recruits. Shaq was the consensus #1 and stole The Mcdonalds All American game with a crazy full court dunk. LINK
People used to make pilgrimages to Gulfport to watch CJ play in HS. There were more 40 year old white men in that gym than a Blackwhawks hockey game. He was a HS phenom.
People used to make pilgrimages to Gulfport to watch CJ play in HS. There were more 40 year old white men in that gym than a Blackwhawks hockey game. He was a HS phenom.
Posted on 1/22/15 at 9:32 am to Lsupimp
The 1981 team was the greatest LSU team of all time. If Rudy wouldn't have gotten hurt, we could have very well won it all.
Posted on 1/22/15 at 9:40 am to cmacatl13
Yes. And a lot of good points are being made on this thread. It was a different era. You would watch a team mature over three years and you would see average players mature and get better. Now it's two and done.
Shawn Griggs was one of the best defensive players ever in his brief tenure. And man I forgot about Randy Devall.
Great class. But besides Nikita, all role players. Had Dennis (who is a really smart guy) been a better student he would have become a real player over time. He was a UK-killer in his brief tenure.
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1977 - Willie Sims, Ethan Martin, Dwayne Scales, Walter Campbell
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1989 class Shaq, Harold Boudreaux, Shawn Griggs, Randy Devall, Geert Hammink
Shawn Griggs was one of the best defensive players ever in his brief tenure. And man I forgot about Randy Devall.
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Nikita Wilson
Anthony Wilson
Oliver Brown
Dennis Brown
Damon Vance
Great class. But besides Nikita, all role players. Had Dennis (who is a really smart guy) been a better student he would have become a real player over time. He was a UK-killer in his brief tenure.
Posted on 1/22/15 at 9:44 am to Lsupimp
Back then, all we had was the Tiger Rag magazine, local TV sports news, and Hap Glaudi's radio show. I can't recall any local BR sports radio during that time. CJ & Shaq would definitely be off the charts in today's social media.
Posted on 1/22/15 at 9:50 am to Skillet
I think Brian Rushing was the first daily radio show in about 1990 and Buddy Songy soon followed..
Posted on 1/22/15 at 10:02 am to Lsupimp
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People used to make pilgrimages to Gulfport to watch CJ play in HS. There were more 40 year old white men in that gym than a Blackwhawks hockey game. He was a HS phenom.
CJ vs Literial Green in the "Sertoma" Tournament in Mobile....packed the house.
Posted on 1/22/15 at 10:03 am to Lsupimp
To me Dale's Best Teams, were 1980-81, & 1979-80, the difference being Mitchell for Scales & 1 more year of experience.
Posted on 1/22/15 at 10:05 am to Big Moe
quote:No. Not even close unless they really blow up and become all-stars.
Is 2015 the best recruiting class LSU has ever had?
The Chris Jackson, Stanley Roberts, Singleton, and Williamson class would be very hard to beat. Of course whatever class Pistol Pete came in would be as well. Then there is Shaq's class.
Not even sure how 2015 will compare to Mickey, Martin, and TQ when all is said and done. Does one top player rank against a class with 3 top 20 talents?
Posted on 1/22/15 at 10:11 am to Big Moe
I'm surprised no one in this thread has brought up the Bob Pettit, Rudy Macklin & John Williams recruiting class of 1995 yet.
Posted on 1/22/15 at 10:13 am to T
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I'm surprised no one in this thread has brought up the Bob Pettit, Rudy Macklin & John Williams recruiting class of 1995 yet.
Wasn't Don Redden in that one too?
Posted on 1/22/15 at 10:20 am to Tigerinthehollow
Hackashaq was their down fall !
Posted on 1/22/15 at 10:30 am to Lsupimp
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Lsupimp
Doing solid work in this thread...kudos.
Those were fun times, though I was old enough to remember that '81 team I wasn't paying as much attention being only 10 or 11. I remember Hi-C being a killer from the corners...dude would have been a killer with a 3 point line, and I literally dressed up as Leonard Mitchell for Mardi Gras around that time...long wrist bands and knee pads on the shins and all.
I really started paying attention a couple years later with Derrick Taylor, Mitchell, Redden, John Williams, etc. I was a freshman the year CJ was as well.
Posted on 1/22/15 at 10:38 am to white_mj
The 2003 class (Brandon Bass, Tack Minor, Regis Koundjia, Darnell Lazare, Ross Neltner) has to be up there. It was the #2 class in the country behind Kansas. In hindsight, Tack and Regis didn't pan out and Ross transfered but on recruiting ranking alone its tough to beat or argue against. 3 recruits in the top 31 in the country....
Check out the rankings below:
Nat'l Rankings (per 24/7) and honors:
Bass (5*, #12 national, McDonald's AA)
Koundjia (5*, #21 national, Parade AA)
Minor (4*, #31 national, top 5 PG in class)
Lazare (3*, #118 national, 1st team all-state and #3 player in state)
Neltner (3*, Mr. Basketball in Kentucky)
Check out the rankings below:
Nat'l Rankings (per 24/7) and honors:
Bass (5*, #12 national, McDonald's AA)
Koundjia (5*, #21 national, Parade AA)
Minor (4*, #31 national, top 5 PG in class)
Lazare (3*, #118 national, 1st team all-state and #3 player in state)
Neltner (3*, Mr. Basketball in Kentucky)
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