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re: QB play didn't cost us the game!
Posted on 9/6/21 at 10:56 am to memphis tiger
Posted on 9/6/21 at 10:56 am to memphis tiger
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He made some awful passes even when he didn’t have a defender in his face.
true...
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Posted on 9/6/21 at 10:57 am to Bayou_Tiger_225
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All of this, along with zero run game describes Myles and the 2020 offense to a T.
If we are being honest, Max in 2021 probably has a better offense to work with than Myles did in 2020.
RBs averaged about 2.3 yc, in 2020... you're looking at somewhere around double that.
There was absolutely no rushing attack.
Posted on 9/6/21 at 10:58 am to GeauxFightingTigers1
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330 yards, 3tds and 1int on the road with no rush games... is pretty freaking good for one's 3rd start bro.
Solid game.
In Myles's third start he went 29-48, 430 YDS, 4 TD and people hated him.
Posted on 9/6/21 at 11:02 am to GeauxFightingTigers1
quote:In the game that everyone criticizes Myles for, the Missouri game, the RBs had 49 rushing yards. The exact same amount they had against UCLA.
RBs averaged about 2.3 yc, in 2020... you're looking at somewhere around double that.
There was absolutely no rushing attack.
The UCLA game and the Missouri game were both the third start for the respective QBs as well.
Posted on 9/6/21 at 11:05 am to Bayou_Tiger_225
I don’t think Max played horrible by any means. He did have some bad plays, but that’s going to happen. I just think he has limitations that are easily manageable for defenses. And we’re going to see that this year.
Posted on 9/6/21 at 11:05 am to abellsujr
Where do you people get this "Max doesn't have a big arm" bull from? Look at some of the You Tube videos of him throwing with his father and brother. He's big and strong, but he also throws touch passes. Get him some help and he'll be a really good Quarterback here
Posted on 9/6/21 at 11:09 am to Diogi
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Where do you people get this "Max doesn't have a big arm" bull from
It’s not that he can’t throw it far. It’s that on deep balls he is even more inaccurate than he is on short-intermediate throws.
His deep throws also float in the for seemingly forever.
There was play where Boutte was wide open deep and with a good pass he probably would have scored.
But the ball was late, and floated to him. Was in the air so long that Boutte had to slow down and the DB was able to catch up and break up the pass.
This post was edited on 9/6/21 at 11:10 am
Posted on 9/6/21 at 11:09 am to GeauxFightingTigers1
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100% you don't understand football.
When he held onto the ball was not good, but the majority of the time he was taking what the defense gave him i.e. underneath.
330 yards, 3tds and 1int on the road with no rush games... is pretty freaking good for one's 3rd start bro.
Solid game.
There's no need to blindly defend the kid. It's ok to say he didn't play well. His inaccuracy was a major issue.
The whole team needs to improve and he's no exception. If you think the only flaw in his performance Saturday night was that he held onto the ball a few times, then you really shouldn't be saying I don't know football.
I'm not complaining that he took what the defense gave him. That was absolutely the way to attack that defense. My biggest issue with his performance was how poorly he executed this. He was inaccurate or late with his throws way too often for this to be considered a "solid game".
Here's some stats for you. 56% completion percentage. 7.2 yards per attempt. With that low of a yards per attempt, his completion percentage should have been MUCH higher. DTR had the same completion percentage and 16.3 yards per attempt.
Posted on 9/6/21 at 11:16 am to PenguinPubes
Max absolutely didn’t cost us the game, but he hasn’t shown me he can win you a game either.
I still think A Brennan type QB is what this team needs. When you can’t run the ball your QB is goin to have be someone that can gunsling it down field.
I still think A Brennan type QB is what this team needs. When you can’t run the ball your QB is goin to have be someone that can gunsling it down field.
Posted on 9/6/21 at 11:17 am to whitefoot
His average was 5 yards in the first half too. They just don’t trust him throwing deep. And he doesn’t trust himself. It’s a major problem.
Posted on 9/6/21 at 11:19 am to memphis tiger
He will adjust to the speed of the game, with game time under his belt. We will see, but I believe he can throw darts when he wants to.
Posted on 9/6/21 at 11:22 am to Diogi
quote:After the McNeese game this Saturday he will have more game experience than Myles...
He will adjust to the speed of the game, with game time under his belt.
I'm just pointing out all of this Myles vs Max stuff out because last year Myles was in an arguably worse position, and people were ready to sit his arse. If people weren't ready to give Myles the benefit of the doubt, then Max shouldn't get it either
Posted on 9/6/21 at 11:22 am to memphis tiger
So 26/46 330 yards 3 tds and 1 int… with 4-5 drops is bad now? Where were you when les was the coach lmao…
Posted on 9/6/21 at 11:23 am to Diogi
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He will adjust to the speed of the game, with game time under his belt. We will see, but I believe he can throw darts when he wants to.
Ok. But his accuracy and deep ball issues have been known for a while.
Hell, even in the offseason debates about Max and Brennan, Max supported conceded that Brennan was the better passer.
The argument was that Max should start because, though he wasn’t as good a passer, he brought more intangibles to the game that Myles didn’t have and would be better.
Another point from those wanting Max to start was that the O line might be bad and his legs would make up for that.
Well his legs and intangibles were invisible Saturday night but the passing issues were on full display.
Posted on 9/6/21 at 11:23 am to rjacksonmroctober
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we don't have an SEC-caliber OL
Peetz HAS TO change his preferred personnel groups & formations from 4/5 WRs to max protection. He’s got to leave a TE & in most cases a RB in the backfield to keep MAX upright & out of the Hospital!
It also means that CEO will have to stop chasing the all-2-allusive “Brady Offense” & call plays that don’t take long to develop.
This will turn the Offense into a dink & dunk ur way down the field offense w/5 yard slants & hook patterns to the WRs & screen passes to the RBs out of the backfield.
Posted on 9/6/21 at 11:23 am to rjacksonmroctober
Yes, the QB play hurt us immensely.
Because Chip knew that Max wasn't a deep threat, he brought the house all night long. LSU suffered because of it. It's Jordan Jefferson all over again. Stack nine in the box and make him throw over the top. Max just isn't there.
Myles is capable of making those quick reads, which forces the defense to sit back rather than get burned. That opens up your running game, too.
translation: Max is not a deep threat. That puts loads of pressure on the OL, and also kills the run game due, to stacked boxes.
Because Chip knew that Max wasn't a deep threat, he brought the house all night long. LSU suffered because of it. It's Jordan Jefferson all over again. Stack nine in the box and make him throw over the top. Max just isn't there.
Myles is capable of making those quick reads, which forces the defense to sit back rather than get burned. That opens up your running game, too.
translation: Max is not a deep threat. That puts loads of pressure on the OL, and also kills the run game due, to stacked boxes.
Posted on 9/6/21 at 11:24 am to MarineVet
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So 26/46 330 yards 3 tds and 1 int… with 4-5 drops is bad now? Where were you when les was the coach lmao…
Les qbs <<<< where we are <<<< what it takes to compete at a high level.
Better than Les is saying shite.
Posted on 9/6/21 at 11:25 am to MarineVet
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So 26/46 330 yards 3 tds and 1 int… with 4-5 drops is bad now? Where were you when les was the coach lmao…
That stat line taken with no context isn’t good or bad. It’s just numbers.
But only a fool could watch that game with an objective eye and say Max played a good game.
Posted on 9/6/21 at 11:50 am to memphis tiger
I take it you haven’t played football or coached before because if you did, then you would know that he made 3 bad throws of the 46 attempts. O-line play and lack of rushing game was the bigger problem and max played well considering they knew he had to throw.
Posted on 9/6/21 at 11:50 am to PenguinPubes
quote:Max is average at best. that's not an insult. He's only started 3 games and hasn't had any good coaching from the team.
Anyone who says max isn’t a good qb is an idiot.
If Max is so good, why did he throw a sure td into the dirt?
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