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re: QB Joe Burrow leaving Ohio State, grad transfer (visiting Cincy Thurs, LSU this weekend)
Posted on 5/8/18 at 1:03 pm to the LSUSaint
Posted on 5/8/18 at 1:03 pm to the LSUSaint
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Yes, I understand that Meyer can coach up QBs....but knowing that, this guy couldn't play after 4 years there.
Do you remember who they've had at QB the past few years? They've had some pretty damn good ones...
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Posted on 5/8/18 at 1:05 pm to lsufan_26
They had a 3rd stringer win them a national title.
OSU knows QB's.
OSU knows QB's.
Posted on 5/8/18 at 1:10 pm to thunderbird1100
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Not saying Coach O didn't make any mistakes, but he didn't have any idea what his offensive identity would even be until year 2 being the full time HC here with the OC he wants because he never liked Canada.
Herein is the problem: If O doesn't have any idea what his offensive identity is with his OC he hired because he doesn't like him, then what exactly qualifies him to address the problems his predecessor was fired for?
Getting Burrow could be huge, but the truth is, we don't know because we don't have a coach with any real offensive identity. What's more, Brennan and Narcisse are supposed to have the bonafides but they just look totally lost.
I don't mean to punch holes in your opinion, or rag on O, but at some point you just have to call a spade a spade.
Posted on 5/8/18 at 1:32 pm to lsu2006
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Giles is the only one that is even sort of proven. Sure, there is loads of potential, but to automatically refer to the WR corps as "stacked" is a tad bit premature IMHO.
You may be right. Giles is proven. But Sullivan, Anderson, Dillon, Davis, and Jefferson all got playing time last year. And we likely know what we have in Marshall.
McMath, Chase, and the other young guys are the unknowns at this point. With McMath having high praise coming out of Spring camp.
Posted on 5/8/18 at 1:34 pm to ibldprplgld
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we don't know because we don't have a coach with any real offensive identity.
Big Steve has been explaining what he plans to do with the offense all offseason...
Posted on 5/8/18 at 1:35 pm to alumni95
Yea its really not an argument that our WR's TE's and Oline >>>>>>>>> UF's
But the system
But the system
Posted on 5/8/18 at 1:45 pm to ibldprplgld
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Herein is the problem: If O doesn't have any idea what his offensive identity is with his OC he hired because he doesn't like him, then what exactly qualifies him to address the problems his predecessor was fired for?
Again, I said O made a mistake, it was dumb but he did exactly what the fanbase wanted which was go out and get the best available OC which was Canada at the time, it didn't work out because they clashed, something Canada is known to cause issues on (he bounces around). If we're being honest, Canada helped some, but it didn't seem like our offense really transformed into something potent either. Either way most folks werent sad to see him go, just really sad we settled on Ensminger.
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Getting Burrow could be huge, but the truth is, we don't know because we don't have a coach with any real offensive identity. What's more, Brennan and Narcisse are supposed to have the bonafides but they just look totally lost.
Our offensive identity seems to be pretty clear at this point. They recognize we do NOT have RBs we can turn to for ground and pound so we're going shotgun with 3 and 4 wide mostly and focus on getting the ball to the receivers who are the strongest part of the offense currently. Problem is, we dont have a sure fire great QB to run that at the moment, Burrow would give you that. He doesn't solve the "well who is the RB" problem, but he certainly gives the offense a general and a talented player at a spot we haven't had someone with real talent since Mettenberger.
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I don't mean to punch holes in your opinion, or rag on O, but at some point you just have to call a spade a spade.
I'm not in this ridiculous coach O sucks or Coach O is great camps, not sure whatever happened to give people a shot, but I'm simply doing that at this point with Ensminger/O, and getting Burrow absolutely gets us better, so I'm all for it. If O succeeds, then great, if he doesn't, onto the next guy. I think it's definitely questionable going with Ensminger, but if it works out, all the more power to them, to get it to work though, I think they really need a guy like Burrow now, because I dont see a QB who can lead this team this year at all currently here.
I see a veteran who is very inconsistent in McMillian, I see a young guy with promising arm talent (Brennan) who needs to pack on a lot of weight to play in the league and I see another young guy who could absolutely be the future but after missing his last 2 years of high school is simply still behind at this stage.
Burrow solves these issues. That's why you sell out to get him.
Posted on 5/8/18 at 1:54 pm to thunderbird1100
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it was dumb but he did exactly what the fanbase wanted which was go out and get the best available OC which was Canada at the time
No, he did what he had to promise to do in order to get the job. He campaigned for the job on the idea that he would take less money than a proven coach and we could use that money to bring in the very best coordinators. Some people recognized that this was a horrible idea and wouldn’t work, only to be proven correct a year later.
Now we are stuck with an elite DC, a HC that nobody wants and an OC that nobody wants, all thanks to an AD that couldn’t negotiate his way out of a wet paper bag.
Posted on 5/8/18 at 1:57 pm to UpToPar
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No, he did what he had to promise to do in order to get the job.
Which was also exactly what the fanbase wanted after he was hired in terms of OC search. It sucks, and it didn't work out, and it's a wasted year no doubt.
In the end, I could care less right now, we're moving forward with Ensminger and an entirely new identity, and if we get Burrow, there's at least an off chance it could work well right away. I think most people agree if we dont get a QB, it's going to be a shite show offensively next season between the major transition and really just not seemingly having a quality QB ready to play in the new system. Burrow at least gives us a chance to be competent on offense, to go along with what should be our best defense in years.
This post was edited on 5/8/18 at 1:58 pm
Posted on 5/8/18 at 1:57 pm to lsufan_26
So many people told me we were fine at QB and not to put any stock into spring practice but look how thirsty we are for a transfer QB.
If it's not a position of need why are we acting so desperate?
If it's not a position of need why are we acting so desperate?
Posted on 5/8/18 at 2:17 pm to fallguy_1978
I still think RB is still a pressing need... unless we just do a shitload of WR screens as our running plays...match up those big WR's on some smaller DB's may be tough to bring down..
Posted on 5/8/18 at 2:21 pm to sicboy
I see no problem with adding this dude. You have three quarterbacks currently that have not separated themselves.
Posted on 5/8/18 at 2:23 pm to TigerFan55555
CEH is going to do really well in our pass-heavy scheme.
Curry has good hands too and can block.
We won't have a north south runner but i think we can make what we have at RB work well.
We arent lacking talent. We are lacking experience and seniority.
Curry has good hands too and can block.
We won't have a north south runner but i think we can make what we have at RB work well.
We arent lacking talent. We are lacking experience and seniority.
Posted on 5/8/18 at 2:25 pm to sicboy
Mett 2.0
Posted on 5/8/18 at 2:31 pm to thunderbird1100
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Canada led the charge for those 2,
They committed under Les. They decomitted when Ed didn't know who is OC was going to be and what offense they were going to run.
Recommitted and signed with LSU when we had an OC. Then fired that OC.
Posted on 5/8/18 at 3:05 pm to sicboy
You could find better QB transfers every day walking across the Quad
Posted on 5/8/18 at 3:12 pm to lgtiger
SO another backup Big 10 QB possibly?
Posted on 5/8/18 at 3:14 pm to dgnx6
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They committed under Les. They decomitted when Ed didn't know who is OC was going to be and what offense they were going to run.
Recommitted and signed with LSU when we had an OC. Then fired that OC.
Left out Ed getting played by Kiffin and offering Tua for no reason but pissing off his committed QBs.
Posted on 5/8/18 at 3:15 pm to sicboy
This may be why we cooled on the Cal RB transfer - we knew this guy may be available.
Posted on 5/8/18 at 3:18 pm to saintsfan22
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and offering Tua for no reason but pissing off his committed QBs.
He somehow thought that getting Kiffin would translate to getting Tua.
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