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re: Posters saying LSU doesn't DESERVE to be in a regional.....
Posted on 5/27/21 at 2:46 pm to kingbob
Posted on 5/27/21 at 2:46 pm to kingbob
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Only 8 teams can make it to Omaha. LSU was not even the 8th best team in their own conference this year. If their only chance is to not have to play members of their own conference along the way and hope that the SEC really is that much better than all the other teams (besides Oral Roberts), then that’s a pretty worn out basket to place all your eggs in.
Like I said, I hope I’m wrong, that LSU gets in and goes on a run, but I have seen nothing that gives me confidence to expect that to happen. LSU needs to prove to me that they can win by, you know, winning. Blessed are those who have not seen, yet believe. I’m just not that blessed when it comes to this team.
But the question wasn’t about them being the final eight teams And get to Omaha. The question is are they one of the top 64 teams in the country. I would say yes. And at that point may the best team win. You have to earn your way to Omaha.
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Posted on 5/27/21 at 2:47 pm to lsutiger2
Dont take the bait
Posted on 5/27/21 at 2:47 pm to tarzana
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But didn't sweep. Sat. April 26 will be a day of infamy for LSU baseball: led 9-1 with only FOUR OUTS to go. Only got one out, as Ty Floyd was greeted first pitch in the ninth with a HIGH FLY BALL HOME RUN.
If LSU had prevailed that evening, they would be in the tourney.
Yet if they would have lost like they should have in game one vs Alabama when they got 13 hits on just one run. Then that cancels out your Ole Miss game. See what I did there?
Posted on 5/27/21 at 2:48 pm to kingbob
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I am saying that they had lots of opportunities to make the tournament with no doubts as to whether they should be in or out. They failed to seize those opportunities for all of the reasons that I doubt their ability to make the most out of a possible tournament bid.
So just like the other bubble teams.
Posted on 5/27/21 at 2:48 pm to kingbob
SO if we have a disappointing season by LSu standrds, they haven't earned a spot in a 64 team field? Glad you've made it clear you're a front-runner
Like none of your post has anything to do with whether or not they desevre a bid to the NCAAT but only your feelings about the state of the program, which isn't the topic of this thread. Saying that LSU has a resume that should get them a bid is not expressing satisfaction. Every thread doesn't need to turn into posters expressing how upset they are and howw much better LSU should be. Everyone is well aware of that bud
And regarding the first part of your post, the same could be said about every team on the bubble, which is why said teams are on the bubble.
Like none of your post has anything to do with whether or not they desevre a bid to the NCAAT but only your feelings about the state of the program, which isn't the topic of this thread. Saying that LSU has a resume that should get them a bid is not expressing satisfaction. Every thread doesn't need to turn into posters expressing how upset they are and howw much better LSU should be. Everyone is well aware of that bud
And regarding the first part of your post, the same could be said about every team on the bubble, which is why said teams are on the bubble.
This post was edited on 5/27/21 at 2:50 pm
Posted on 5/27/21 at 2:49 pm to lsutiger2
We could play the what if game all day. LSU’s lack of competent bull pen relievers resulted in a whole heck of a lot of blown leads at the ends of games, and their lack of timely hitting resulted in very few come from behind victories.
Posted on 5/27/21 at 2:51 pm to lsufball19
Hence why I keep saying they’re a fringe tournament team...
Posted on 5/27/21 at 2:51 pm to kingbob
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LSU’s lack of competent bull pen relievers resulted in a whole heck of a lot of blown leads at the ends of games, and their lack of timely hitting resulted in very few come from behind victories.
Probably just like the other bubble teams.
Posted on 5/27/21 at 2:53 pm to kingbob
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I doubt their ability to make the most out of a possible tournament bid.
I can’t think of a more irrelevant thing than how you think the team will do with their opportunity.
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I’m not saying that they shouldn’t go if they are offered. I am saying that it is shameful
So should Fresno State be ashamed that they got in going 33-27? Does that make their CWS championship less real?
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Missing the tournament is evident of a catastrophic failure of expectations
This is a bit dramatic.
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Even not being a 1 seed should be a sign of a disappointing season.
That’s where we are at this year. Okay you’re disappointed. Let’s hope the team makes a regional and goes on a run.
This post was edited on 5/27/21 at 2:57 pm
Posted on 5/27/21 at 2:58 pm to kingbob
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Hence why I keep saying they’re a fringe tournament team...
Have you kept saying that? ITT you first setnence said that, then you talked about them not having what it takes to win the CWS if the only finished 8th in the SEC. Then you said the NCAAT used to only have 32 teams in the 90s (which was wrong, btw). Then your next post was about how LSU should be better than they are. Do you want to move the goal posts one more time in this thread or no?
This thread isn't about if LSU is good enough to make it to Omaha, or even win a regional, but rather have they done enough to earn an at-large bid with their resume. Teams who are fringe-tournament teams from major conferences are not going to have the pieces to make a deep run more times than not, which is exactly why they are bubble teams in the first place. It's very rare to see a 3 or 4 seed make a deep run in the post-season. But, that's why we play the tournmament.
But to frame your posting around how disappointing LSU has been based on program expectations is not the point of what's being discussed. A good starting point would be to look at the other bubble teams we're competing with and talk about why LSu does or doesn't deserve a bid compared to their competition. It's incredibly short-sighted to say "well, I watch LSU and we are just not what we should be and failed to win games we should have, so because of that we don't deserve a bid to the NCAAT." That's not how it works. Teams that aren't locked in to the tournament either A) are a good team from a mid-major and lost their conference tournament; or B) a team from a major conference that didn't do as well as they'd hoped to lock up a bid. We are in the latter with about 8-10 other teams right now, several of those teams being pretty regular CWS participants and/or sucessful programs
This post was edited on 5/27/21 at 3:03 pm
Posted on 5/27/21 at 3:00 pm to GoneFishing21
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Even not being a 1 seed should be a sign of a disappointing season.
That’s where we are at this year. Okay you’re disappointed. Let’s hope the team makes a regional and goes on a run.
If team gets hot and makes it to Omaha, doesn't it actually make the season successful? This is also what I dont get. The NCAA tournament is not going to go chalk on every game. Upsets happen, Cinderella's happen. Why would you not want that for any LSU team? They say they dont deserve to be in but can name teams that do over them.
This post was edited on 5/27/21 at 3:01 pm
Posted on 5/27/21 at 3:01 pm to lsutiger2
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they got 13 hits on just one run
That's certainly not a lot of productivity, but leading by 8 runs with two outs, and only one runner on first base, ought to generate a win. I would guarantee that the odds against a loss in such circumstances would be astronomical.
Posted on 5/27/21 at 3:04 pm to lsutiger2
Apparently it’s more embarrassing and disappointing for LSU to make a regional as a bubble team and go on a run than it is for LSU not to make the tournament at all.
This post was edited on 5/27/21 at 3:07 pm
Posted on 5/27/21 at 3:04 pm to dukke v
quote:Yes it is how it works. Bama got to be in the 2011 NC football game because they were "better" not because they were more deserving.
They don’t deserve to be in a regional...... are they better than some teams that will make it???? Sure. But that’s not it works......
Posted on 5/27/21 at 3:06 pm to tarzana
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That's certainly not a lot of productivity, but leading by 8 runs with two outs, and only one runner on first base, ought to generate a win. I would guarantee that the odds against a loss in such circumstances would be astronomical.
The point was that both games were extremely odd. LSU should have beaten Ole Miss that day, no doubt about it. But they probably should have lost to Alabama that day as well which would have meant we lost the series. Putting us back on the bubble. lol
Posted on 5/27/21 at 3:09 pm to lsutiger2
It would, obviously. I’m just saying that their performance to date has given me little hope that they can do so.
Typical Paul teams at LSU tend to have inconsistent hitting and base running, excellent starting pitching and fielding, and tend to somehow find the bullpen late in the year.
Their teams tend to have a disappointing OOC loss, a few midweek games, some early conference struggles, and then suddenly click at the end of the year, have a big offensive flurry, find a groove with their bull pen, win a couple big SEC series at the end of the year, make a deep run in the SEC tournament, and secure a 1 or 2 seed in a regional.
They then usually win or at least compete hard in the regional before their bats return to normal and they lose in the regional final or in the supers.
This team was better OOC, but still had the disappointing loss to Oral Roberts, and played a significantly weaker OOC schedule than normal. This team won a few games at the end of the year, but didn’t have a dramatic offensive surge, didn’t find a reliable 3rd or 4th starter, ever found consistent relief pitching, and got bounced from the SEC tournament in one game.
I feel like if this team had it in them to turn everything around and find their groove, they would have done so by now.
Typical Paul teams at LSU tend to have inconsistent hitting and base running, excellent starting pitching and fielding, and tend to somehow find the bullpen late in the year.
Their teams tend to have a disappointing OOC loss, a few midweek games, some early conference struggles, and then suddenly click at the end of the year, have a big offensive flurry, find a groove with their bull pen, win a couple big SEC series at the end of the year, make a deep run in the SEC tournament, and secure a 1 or 2 seed in a regional.
They then usually win or at least compete hard in the regional before their bats return to normal and they lose in the regional final or in the supers.
This team was better OOC, but still had the disappointing loss to Oral Roberts, and played a significantly weaker OOC schedule than normal. This team won a few games at the end of the year, but didn’t have a dramatic offensive surge, didn’t find a reliable 3rd or 4th starter, ever found consistent relief pitching, and got bounced from the SEC tournament in one game.
I feel like if this team had it in them to turn everything around and find their groove, they would have done so by now.
This post was edited on 5/27/21 at 3:12 pm
Posted on 5/27/21 at 3:12 pm to kingbob
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I feel like if this team had it in them to turn everything around and find their groove, they would have done so by now.
Also irrelevant
Posted on 5/27/21 at 3:14 pm to lsutiger2
I didn't think they deserved to be in the BCS championship game with two (overtime) loses either, but thank God we were!!
Get in and play more ball and build the brand.
Get in and play more ball and build the brand.
Posted on 5/27/21 at 3:16 pm to Old Money
Because I'd like to see them play a while longer, that's why!
Posted on 5/27/21 at 3:19 pm to kingbob
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It would, obviously. I’m just saying that their performance to date has given me little hope that they can do so.
Typical Paul teams at LSU tend to have inconsistent hitting and base running, excellent starting pitching and fielding, and tend to somehow find the bullpen late in the year.
Their teams tend to have a disappointing OOC loss, a few midweek games, some early conference struggles, and then suddenly click at the end of the year, have a big offensive flurry, find a groove with their bull pen, win a couple big SEC series at the end of the year, make a deep run in the SEC tournament, and secure a 1 or 2 seed in a regional.
They then usually win or at least compete hard in the regional before their bats return to normal and they lose in the regional final or in the supers.
This team was better OOC, but still had the disappointing loss to Oral Roberts, and played a significantly weaker OOC schedule than normal. This team won a few games at the end of the year, but didn’t have a dramatic offensive surge, didn’t find a reliable 3rd or 4th starter, ever found consistent relief pitching, and got bounced from the SEC tournament in one game.
I feel like if this team had it in them to turn everything around and find their groove, they would have done so by now.
you are kinda sounding sad man. Just root like hell that they get in the NCAA tournament(which they should) and be pleasantly surprised if they do anything.
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