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re: Playoff Pecking Order and LSU
Posted on 10/22/23 at 1:10 pm to Yeti_Chaser
Posted on 10/22/23 at 1:10 pm to Yeti_Chaser
quote:yes people will start realizing this maybe when they see the first playoff rankings come out. Georgia will be ranked no higher than 4. Committee will have Washington, OSU and Michigan ranked ahead of them next week
I don't think so. Everyone knows this UGA team isn't all that great. They're ranked where they are because of their winning streak and their SOS is too shitty to overcome a loss if teams like FSU, OU, Washington, and OSU/UM win out. The SEC likely gets left out in that scenario. We would need some help, but I can't see UGA getting in over us if we win out and beat them in Atlanta. Maybe if they absolutely demolish Ole Miss, but otherwise the committee would have to hold a week 1 loss to FSU against us when UGA didn't play anyone
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Posted on 10/22/23 at 1:23 pm to Tiger1988
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You pointed this bull shite out in Tiers in relationship to LSU, which is what this board is about. There is no plausible scenario that LSU will get in.
You realize that last season, the playoff consisted of undefeated Big 10 champ Michigan, undefeated Sec Champ UGA and two 1-loss teams that didn’t win their conference championships.
Many people loudly argued that a 2-loss Alabama team should have been in…and 2-loss Tennessee actually had a better argument than them.
Last season, the champions of the Big 12, PAC 12 and ACC all had two or more losses.
Did you watch the Washington-Arizona State game last night? The Oklahoma-UCF game? Texas-Houston? Do you really want to tell me it’s not “plausible” that both the PAC 12 and Big 12 wind up with teams with one “bad” loss winning the championship or even teams with two losses?
I’ll throw out a very “plausible” scenario where you have conference champs of 13-0 FSU, 13-0 OSU, 11-2 LSU, 11-2 Texas and 11-2 Oregon as P5 champs. Then you have 11-1 Michigan and 11-1 UGA (both with weak schedules). So who gets in?
Posted on 10/22/23 at 2:22 pm to lsusa
quote:last season the SEC was better than this one. The SEC is considerably weaker than the Big 10 and PAC 12. That’s not debatable. This is about LSU. They do not have a snowball’s chance in hell to get in even if they win out but it doesn’t matter because they want. If you want to talk about other teams take it to a different board like MSB or SEC Rant
that last season
Posted on 10/22/23 at 2:25 pm to lsusa
Why are we even bringing this crap up? Bring it up if we get to Atlanta but not right now.
Posted on 10/22/23 at 2:30 pm to lsusa
It’s like someone bumped a thread from 2022
Posted on 10/22/23 at 2:51 pm to Who_Dat_Tiger
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Georgia will be ranked no higher than 4. Committee will have Washington, OSU and Michigan ranked ahead of them next week
Washington needed a blatant PI penalty to be ignored while down 7-6 in order to beat 1 win Arizona State at home last night 15-7. They didn’t score an offensive TD.
Now, that may have just been a blip….but it’s enough to raise questions about them.
Posted on 10/22/23 at 2:53 pm to The Boat
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It’s like someone bumped a thread from 2022
crazy how we’re in the same position
Posted on 10/22/23 at 5:41 pm to lsusa
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Probably a one loss UGA TEAM, even if that loss is to LSU who wins out, gets in before we do. We just shot ourselves in the foot at Oxford.
Not necessarily. An 11-2 LSU team with the SEC title and wins over Alabama and Georgia moves into that second group.
The only way that LSU wouldn't get in is if the four other conference champs are undefeated.
There is no way the CFP committee would screw over the SEC. They know they can always fall back on that "We picked the four best teams" argument.
Posted on 10/22/23 at 7:09 pm to PurpleExile
In abstract terms, we need at least one other conference champ to finish with 2 losses (or more). Any P5 champ with 1 or 0 losses gets in over 11-2 LSU.
Would help if the big 12 champ were Kansas State. That’s plausible.
Would help if the big 12 champ were Kansas State. That’s plausible.
Posted on 10/22/23 at 9:30 pm to PurpleExile
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Not necessarily. An 11-2 LSU team with the SEC title and wins over Alabama and Georgia moves into that second group. The only way that LSU wouldn't get in is if the four other conference champs are undefeated. There is no way the CFP committee would screw over the SEC. They know they can always fall back on that "We picked the four best teams" argument.
Well
Said.
Posted on 10/22/23 at 9:35 pm to supersaints9
Best case scenario and they beat Ole Miss. We win out as the best team in SEC.
Posted on 10/23/23 at 3:12 am to lsusa
We’ll see when the rankings come out, but an undefeated pac-12 team (Washington) isn’t tier 2. They will likely be top 3 based on resume. If there is 5 undefeated teams, big 12 probably misses the cut. LSU does not control its own destiny right now.
Posted on 10/23/23 at 6:28 am to lsusa
An undefeated PAC-12 team, this year, is 100% an automatic. Zero chance that if Washington were to go undefeated they wouldn't be in.
Posted on 10/23/23 at 6:33 am to lsusa
Undefeated Pac 12 champ is in category 1, one loss Pac 12 champ is in category 2, two loss SEC champ is in category 4.
Posted on 10/23/23 at 6:35 am to PurpleExile
quote:Not taking a two loss SEC champ when there are a bunch of other undefeated and one loss champs wouldn’t be considered a screw job by anyone other than our fan base.
There is no way the CFP committee would screw over the SEC.
Posted on 10/23/23 at 6:37 am to cphill
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That loss to Ole Miss eliminated us from any playoff discussion....
That plus our jr high school level play on defense
Posted on 10/23/23 at 6:53 am to BilbeauTBaggins
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UGA is very vulnerable right now
You say that, but just look at one of their recent games: after muddling through unimpressive performances v S Carolina and at Auburn, they annihilate a good Kentucky team.
Georgia is as good as it wants to be. Ask TCU during the NC game last year
Posted on 10/23/23 at 7:42 am to lsusa
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LSU's only shot
Can we kindly eliminate LSU from this playoff discussion? Even if it wins out (which it won't) there's a 0.001% chance of a playoff invite.
With a porous defense just made worse by untimely injuries, we should be talking about the Citrus Bowl or even the Outback, and silence all this "playoff" talk. It's even sillier than similar talk in 2017 after upsetting Auburn-- two weeks after losing to TROY!!!
Posted on 10/23/23 at 9:06 am to lsusa
Zero chance to finish in top 4 this far down in rankings and so many teams still undefeated.
Posted on 10/23/23 at 6:56 pm to paulb52
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Zero chance to finish in top 4 this far down in rankings and so many teams still undefeated.
There are six undefeated P5 teams remaining. Two play each other, meaning at most there could be five at the end of the season.
Two of the undefeated teams had close wins over unranked teams at home this week where they trailed for most of the game. OU one by 2 over UCF, and UW won 15-7 over 1-win Arizona State thanks to a BS overturn of a pass interference call.
Obviously if there are 4 undefeated teams + 2 loss Sec champ LSU, LSU won’t get in. Note that is EXACTLY what my post says.
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