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re: Pitching philosophy might need to change
Posted on 5/15/26 at 10:30 pm to TigerMonkey7
Posted on 5/15/26 at 10:30 pm to TigerMonkey7
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Pitching philosophy might need to change
WELL HHHEEELLLLLLOOOOOOOO CAPTAIN OBVIOUS!!
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Posted on 5/15/26 at 10:31 pm to LSUFanHouston
quote:My thing with this is there shouldn't be any truly "meh" pitchers at LSU.
I’ve said this before. Yeskie takes great pitchers and makes them elite. But he can’t take meh pitchers and make them good,
Every arm should have solid velo (or a very weird arm slot) and good breaking stuff. LSU is not in the business of recruiting guys with bad stuff. At some point, those guys have to make that stuff show.
Primeaux is a good example. Has great stuff from the left side. Has pitched under 2 of the best pitching coaches in the game and just never improved. Noot is another. Has great stuff, but just can't put it together.
Then you look at a guy like Anderson who had great stuff and went from a midweek piece to the best pitcher in the country in one season. Eyanson was a good west coast arm and became a future big leaguer. Holman/Jump are in the same mold. Shores couldn't put guys away for his first 2 and a half years here.
There hasn't been a pitcher that's left this program and shined at their next spot, outside of Sam Dutton, and even his numbers leveled off by the end of the year.
Posted on 5/15/26 at 10:56 pm to TigerMonkey7
The pitching coach needs to change. It was a pathetic job this year and in 2024. We’ve had a historically bad season and that cannot happen at LSU. A&M improved when Yeskie left. The situation is so bad that if you had a son who was a pitching prospect, you could not let him go to LSU if Yeskie stays
This post was edited on 5/16/26 at 1:22 am
Posted on 5/16/26 at 5:55 am to unctiger4
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Some fella last year named Kade Anderson seemed to develop ok under him.
Every example you give them they will counter with, That guy was already great.
Posted on 5/16/26 at 8:14 am to TigerMonkey7
Living in Alabama and kids high school baseball team had fund raising banquet with auburn’s head coach as the speaker. He was adamant about his philosophy around pitching. Anyone who couldnt throw strikes would not be playing no matter how hard they throw.
Posted on 5/16/26 at 9:28 am to Geauxldilocks
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I’m counting the days until Yeskie gets fired. It’s less than 10 now
U dumb.
Posted on 5/16/26 at 9:37 am to PP7 for heisman
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Wes Johnson has put some of the worst pitching staffs in the SEC on the field since he's been at UGA.
Yet can still do things like winning SEC championships, advancing to regionals and SR in spite of poor pitching. Wes coaches to win with what he has, JJ can only win with elite talent and that dried up last year.
Posted on 5/16/26 at 10:17 am to Geauxldilocks
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Yet can still do things like winning SEC championships, advancing to regionals and SR in spite of poor pitching. Wes coaches to win with what he has, JJ can only win with elite talent and that dried up last year.
So, you're just a troll then, huh? I figured as much because it's nearly impossible for someone to be as retarded as you.
FWIW, your hero Wes Johnson lost to Duke and Oklahoma State to get bounced out of a lowly regional, at home, as the #7 seed last year. 2 teams that UGA was vastly more talented than. Meanwhile, Jay Johnson was on his way to winning his 2nd national championship in 3 years after developing and seeing huge jumps from players like Kade Anderson, Anthony Eyanson, Hernandez, Dickinson, etc etc.
Posted on 5/16/26 at 10:20 am to saint tiger225
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So, you're just a troll then, huh?
No, I’m a frustrated fan as you should be.
Not a winning season to be had with LSU men’s sports. Add the Saints and Pels to the mix and Louisiana sports were pathetic last year.
Posted on 5/16/26 at 10:27 am to Geauxldilocks
No one is happy with this season, but that doesn't change the fact you're either a gigantic idiot or a troll. You've had some of the worst takes this board has ever seen and that's just in the past week.
It's easy to see why you can't start threads on certain boards anymore. You're an idiot and have no clue what you're talking about. Typical mouth breather.
We're all still waiting on you to come up with a list of coaches better than JJ. You can't, because there are none and that hurts you because you're just here to hate on THE BEST coach in college baseball. You offer nothing but stupidity.
It's easy to see why you can't start threads on certain boards anymore. You're an idiot and have no clue what you're talking about. Typical mouth breather.
We're all still waiting on you to come up with a list of coaches better than JJ. You can't, because there are none and that hurts you because you're just here to hate on THE BEST coach in college baseball. You offer nothing but stupidity.
Posted on 5/16/26 at 10:36 am to saint tiger225
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You can't
I already answered I’d take Sully any day over JJ and his 6 SEC championships with the natty. Much more consistent than JJ, unfortunately has a few personal issues.
Posted on 5/16/26 at 10:42 am to Geauxldilocks
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already answered I’d take Sully any day over JJ and his 6 SEC championships with the natty.
Ok, so you are a retard and not just a troll. I apologize.
Posted on 5/16/26 at 10:44 am to Geauxldilocks
Jay is not a pitch contact guy and if you do that against these loaded sec lineups you will not survive that way
Problem is the pitchers can’t locate their pitches and when you get down in the count even the best pitchers will struggle
Problem is the pitchers can’t locate their pitches and when you get down in the count even the best pitchers will struggle
Posted on 5/16/26 at 10:51 am to PP7 for heisman
Something went backwards after the first few weeks. Not sure what happened but I agree that pitcher non development and slip back were huge issues. Between that and injuries, pressing has made this team play like they don’t belong but we know and they know that they do
Posted on 5/16/26 at 11:30 am to Geauxldilocks
quote:But he can't do things like win championships? I don't understand your boomer infatuation with SEC titles. You compete for a national championship.
Yet can still do things like winning SEC championships, advancing to regionals and SR in spite of poor pitching.
quote:Wes cheats and buys a very old roster. They spent a shite ton in the portal this past season.
Wes coaches to win with what he has,
quote:This is so retarded. First, It's been discussed time and time again that LSU didn't even have the most big leaguers in Omaha in 2023.
JJ can only win with elite talent and that dried up last year.
Second, no one is winning without elite talent. Wes Johnson's "what he has" is a guy who is the favorite to win the golden spikes. Like what are you talking about? He doesn't have a rag tag group of no names. He coaches at a place that has some of the most fertile recruiting ground in the country in its backyard, and spent a ton in the portal.
Posted on 5/16/26 at 11:33 am to Geauxldilocks
quote:You complain about "only winning with elite talent" and prefer Sully???
I already answered I’d take Sully any day over JJ and his 6 SEC championships with the natty. Much more consistent than JJ, unfortunately has a few personal issues.
No one, and I mean no one, has wasted more talent in the last 20 years than Kevin O'Sullivan. The fact that he has one title in 17 years at UF is one of the worst displays of coaching in the sport's history.
He has a slightly higher in-conference winning percentage than Jay at LSU. Jay has a higher overall winning percentage at LSU, because he actually wins in the post season. He's won double the titles in a third of the time.
Posted on 5/16/26 at 11:35 am to PP7 for heisman
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Wes cheats and buys a very old roster. They spent a shite ton in the portal this past season
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don't understand your boomer infatuation with SEC titles. You compete for a national championship.
What the hell is cheating today and why aren’t we spending a shite ton of it’s that easy?
It’s harder to win a SEC title than a natty and shows consistency over a 30 game schedule in the toughest league. Our nattys happened with multiple flukey plays that helped….Morgan’s glove flip, Little Rick melt, and Arkansas dropping a routine liner and stupid short stop throwing to 3rd. No nattys without that luck.
Posted on 5/16/26 at 11:40 am to ValleyTNTIGER
quote:Part of it with the NonCon i do attribute to playing so many games in a short period of time. I don't think LSU is worse than Sac State.
Something went backwards after the first few weeks.
Then you get into the SEC and it's always going to be a big jump in talent and pressure. In the past, the team has answered the call after being punched in the mouth. This year, they didn't. Then Moore goes down week 2, intermittent injuries to Simpson/Stanny/Dardar/Pearson didn't help. No matter how good or bad any of those guys are, it still hurts when multiple starters go down and no one can find a rhythm.
Then you lose Evans, Brown, etc. I think if you would have just lost a couple guys to injury early for the season, this team would actually be better. It was losing someone to something nearly every weekend that I think just broke them. I mean, they need to be able to overcome that kind of thing, but you could see how it impacted things.
quote:How I feel as well. Is this a title contender on paper? Eh, probably not.
pressing has made this team play like they don’t belong but we know and they know that they do
Are they a team that should be sitting at home in June, on paper? Not at all.
Posted on 5/16/26 at 11:47 am to LSUFanHouston
The Meh pitchers need to concentrate on throwing strikes, keeping the ball down, and just don’t give up free bases.
Posted on 5/16/26 at 11:48 am to Geauxldilocks
quote:Cheating is getting caught on video doctoring baseballs and equipment. Cheating is electronic sign stealing. Cheating is use of steroids.
What the hell is cheating today
quote:Ask Scott Woodward. He wanted to give Kim everything she asked for and though two championships in baseball would satisfy the masses.
why aren’t we spending a shite ton of it’s that easy?
quote:Yeah the thing is I don't give a shite about SEC titles if it means I instead win a national title. I'd rather be LSU than Arkansas.
It’s harder to win a SEC title than a natty and shows consistency over a 30 game schedule in the toughest league.
quote:Ahhh got it it was all luck.
ur nattys happened with multiple flukey plays that helped
quote:A defensive play call to combat the style of bunt that Wake Forest put down worked and it's "fluky luck". Got it.
Morgan’s glove flip
What about the fluky ground ball that should've gotten over their first basemen's head and potentially scored Crews from first earlier in the game? Was that not luck?
What about Ty Floyd getting squeezed in the winners bracket game against Wake, and Wake getting a larger zone? No luck there?
What about LSU being down their two best relievers and a guy that shoves 100 down big leaguers throats before the season even started? Is that not unlucky? What about winning a national title against a team throwing 2 big leaguers and a lefty throwing 100, without a single big league pitcher and one big league hitter to combat that? Was UF not lucky tht they didn't have to face Skenes?
quote:The "Little Rock melt" being LSU hit the ball around the yard against a 4 seed and then brought in pitchers to shut them down? Was the batted ball luck and Cowan blowing arse for Little Rock not luck on their part?
Little Rick melt,
quote:Just a 108 off the bat hooking line drive. Simple routine little play there.
Arkansas dropping a routine liner
quote:What about LSU's middle infield not turning a double play, something they did better than anyone in America last year, to not even let that game get to the bottom half? No luck for Arkansas there?
stupid short stop throwing to 3rd.
Do you see how stupid this exercise is? To only allow the bad thing to affect my point but not your point? Analyizing "luck" over the course of an entire post season?
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