re: Pitch clock rules

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lol. If that’s all there was to it then nobody would ever play the shift.

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They need to learn to hit better. They only run the shift on certain players that statistics say where they are going to hit it. There are plenty of players that direct hit balls to different sides of the field.

Not a fan of pitch clock.

Defense should be able to play anywhere they want in my opinion. If they want to put seven guys one after the other down the first baseline, I could not care less.

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You should tell that to all the shitty hitters in the MLB. Then maybe the big leagues wouldn’t have banned the shift.

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The irony is not lost on you that you have to ban the shift because the hitters in MLB these days are so shitty?

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Review is not adding any appreciable amount of time to college baseball games. That’s just silly.

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I know but I still don’t like it.

Limiting where players can be in the field just seems silly. Hell, put everybody in the outfield if you want to. Bring an outfielder in to play as a 5th infielder.

If you don’t like the shift learn to hit against it. No different than adjusting your lineup to have an advantage against the opposing pitching.

Limiting the shift, to me, equates to not allowing a pitching change for a better matching against a player that doesn’t hit from a particular side well.

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The game wasn’t designed to be played with data on every AB a batter has taken since tee ball.

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The game wasn’t “designed” to have positions either beyond the pitcher and catcher.

That’s just where people logically thought they were best positioned to go. Turns out they may not have been correct in all situations. Baseball isn’t like football. It’s like cricket. You line guys up based where they need to be to get the ball and where they need to be to get outs at bases if needed.

You only think there are positions because it seemed like there were.

Limiting the shift is essentially codifying the game plan of coaches from the past simply because their strategy was worse and you like the advantage of competing against less effective understanding of the game.

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I despise the pitch clock.

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The pitch clock is there for a reason. The time between pitches got out of hand with the batter taking forever to get in the box, then calling for time when the pitcher took more than 5 sec to wind up, then we get the whole loosen up the batting gloves (both of them) and re-tighten, step into the box while holding up the hand for time while he digs a hole just like he did a min ago, pitcher looks to the dugout for the new sign, batter calls time again, and we start the whole fricking routine again.

THANK F'G GOD FOR THE PITCH CLOCK! Baseball had become unwatchable. Games were going 4+ hours and viewership was declining

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Both it and the shift should be banned

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I understand the fan logic for wanting limits on the shift but I guess the liberterian in me says "live by the sword, die by the sword." If you are a batter and every time you come to the plate you get an exaggerated shift then you need to work on your game to hit to the opposite field.

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The game wasn’t “designed” to have positions either beyond the pitcher and catcher.

That’s just where people logically thought they were best positioned to go. Turns out they may not have been correct in all situations. Baseball isn’t like football. It’s like cricket. You line guys up based where they need to be to get the ball and where they need to be to get outs at bases if needed.

You only think there are positions because it seemed like there were.

Limiting the shift is essentially codifying the game plan of coaches from the past simply because their strategy was worse and you like the advantage of competing against less effective understanding of the game.

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Why should they not be allowed to shift where they want?

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It takes away from the game. The game wasn’t designed to be played with data on every AB a batter has taken since tee ball.

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I don't mind the shifts... you have a large field, and 9 fielders. The pitcher is the only one with a specified location and action, and that's just involving the pitch. I don't think the catcher HAS to be behind the plate, it would just be a disaster if he wasn't there to receive the pitches. I dunno, maybe he does.

But the rest of the guys are just placed in strategic locations. You place them near bases so they can get the outs, you spread them in the outfield to cover as much as you can.

If you want to shift everyone including the outfield to one side of 2nd base, you can. You're just fricked if the batter can hit it to the other side. Same thing with the outfield, if you want to pull them in and cut every single ground ball off, you can; if the batter hits a deep fly you're toast.

There's just no NEED to mandate a player HAS to stand in a certain area, the game itself has made it clear where the best spots are.

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I don't think the catcher HAS to be behind the plate

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Pretty sure he has to be in the box or it is a balk.

Regardless if you want to line every single fielder at second base you should be able to do it. Batters should learn to bunt or adjust. Problem we have is we pitch away from the shift which gets us in trouble.

Not sure who it was the other night but we had the infield all right of second base for a lefty. Then we were pounding the outer half of the plate with 2 seamers and changeups.