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re: Pinson was 5-21 from the field

Posted on 3/3/22 at 3:29 pm to
Posted by sabes que
Member since Jan 2010
10156 posts
Posted on 3/3/22 at 3:29 pm to
One more good shooter would mean a ton. We are not really a bad shooting team as is. And that is with Pinson and Gaines being low percentage 3 shooters this season. To me the problem is that our guards are just not that good, neither are our true bigs. We have elite forward play with Eason and Days.
Posted by CP3forMVP
Member since Nov 2010
15775 posts
Posted on 3/3/22 at 3:31 pm to
The amazing thing about Pinson is with him on the floor, I actually think this is a pretty good team. Take away emotion, I’m not saying they’re great but I think they’re better than this board gives them credit for.

Now here’s the amazing part, Pinson is not a good basketball player. Imagine if you could subtract him and insert say, Javonte. This team would be so much better.
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
41735 posts
Posted on 3/3/22 at 3:36 pm to
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look, Adam Miller might be incredible. But last year at Illinois, he averaged:

8.3 points
25.5 minutes played
39.1% overall FG

34.0% 3-point FG (would be 92nd in the nation, and worse than Eason, Days, and Murray this year)

68.4% FT (would not even be in the top 350 this year)

So is Miller a great shooter?


Every time we lose a game Miller’s stock goes up. Now he might be a good player or even a very good player; however, we don’t know that.
Posted by Alt26
Member since Mar 2010
34077 posts
Posted on 3/3/22 at 3:43 pm to
Pinson has always been a very streaky scorer and shooter. There are nights when he will light up the scoreboard like he did last week vs. Kentucky or in 2020 when he put up 28 and 32 in back-to-back games vs. Auburn and Ole Miss. Then there are games like the 2 points he put up vs. Oklahoma in the NCAAT last season. Even last week vs. UK when he scored 26 he didn't shoot it well: 6-20 overall, 2-7 from 3. He got 12 of his 26 from the FT line.

For this LSU team Pinson is at his best when he is driving and facilitating. He is very good at getting to the rim (though inconsistent in finishing. Like last night where he hit a tough layup to put LSU up 1 late followed by an ugly miss at the rim on the very next possession to end the game). Where he is not at his best for this team right now is shooting 3's. In addition to being 0-7 last night, he's 3-27 since he re-entered the starting lineup 7 games ago.

LSU taking a ton of 3's has never been a recipe for success under Wade. Even in prior years when LSU was tremendously efficient on offense. Why, on a night in one of the toughest road environments in the SEC where you did just about everything else so, so well, did LSU decide to shoot almost a season high 28 3's is mind-blowing.

If there was ever a game to relentlessly attack the rim it was last night where LSU was dominant on the offensive glass. Instead, they settled FAR too often for 3's.
Posted by Antioch
Anytown, USA
Member since Nov 2021
1449 posts
Posted on 3/3/22 at 4:58 pm to
Imagine if Pinson pulls up for a 12-15 footer instead 2 of those SEVEN 3's and makes them? We win.
Posted by Tiger Ugly
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2008
17654 posts
Posted on 3/3/22 at 5:04 pm to
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He had a layup to win the game and missed it. I am not upset about that shot.


Yep, he lost his balance or it would have been a bunny right at the goal.
Posted by Tiger1988
Houston
Member since May 2016
29622 posts
Posted on 3/3/22 at 7:56 pm to
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That's why I said "I don't think". You obviously know that teams call timeouts in that situation all the time in order to advance the ball and draw up a play right?

That is a big bunch of bull crap. You don’t with just 8 seconds left. 10 maybe if you get the ball past mid-court in less than 5 MAYBE. Coaches call plays from the bench all game and there are game ending plays they practice every day. You ABSOLUTELY DO NOT allow the other team to set up their defense. Nor do you want a side out with very little time because you can’t run the baseline. So you get the ball in when you can and get it up the court as fast as you can. Pinson dribbling up the court was the biggest issue.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
66198 posts
Posted on 3/3/22 at 8:02 pm to
“You obviously know that teams call timeouts in that situation all the time in order to advance the ball”


It’s not the NBA buddy, time-outs don’t automatically advance the ball.
Posted by QB
Louisiana
Member since Sep 2013
7709 posts
Posted on 3/3/22 at 8:15 pm to
The drive wasn't the issue, it was it wasn't a planned play by WW...and it should have been.
Going down the left hand side and not going right at the basket and trying to draw a foul...jumping into the arky players at least. Fading away on the wrong hand shooting side was just an awful effort. Stop and pop, anything but what he did. That was just pitiful. Unfortunately LSU doesn't have anyone that can be called a shooter or scorer in that situation. We have in the past, but not this year..Eason would have been the best option working inside, but stupid charging fouls earlier in the game eliminated that possibility. LSU may have played their best game of the year until the last 30 seconds, and the refs made sure LSU wasn't going to win...just like the KY game.
Posted by Tiger1988
Houston
Member since May 2016
29622 posts
Posted on 3/3/22 at 9:15 pm to
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The drive wasn't the issue, it was it wasn't a planned play by WW...and it should have been.

And you know this how? HOW DO YOU LNOW THIS? As analytical as Wade is there are situational plays that I guarantee you they called when they took that TO. They don’t call plays “right then” becuase they don’t have time. It was called on the made basket or FT. We’re you actually watching???
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
66198 posts
Posted on 3/3/22 at 10:56 pm to
Yea that’s a total reach and an inaccurate description of what took place as well. He had players on his hip, he didn’t jump into a crowd and it looked like he just lost control of the ball. But he is right about LSU not having a closer, our two best offensive players are forwards who don’t really put it on the floor exceptionally well so you can’t have either Days or Eason taking the ball the length of the floor in situations like that. Miller was supposed to be that guy for us this season and his absence has really shown in all these close games we come up a possession or 2 short of winning.
Posted by mmcgrath
Indianapolis
Member since Feb 2010
37005 posts
Posted on 3/4/22 at 8:13 am to
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It’s not the NBA buddy, time-outs don’t automatically advance the ball.
It's easy to confuse because you can advance in women's basketball.
Posted by mmcgrath
Indianapolis
Member since Feb 2010
37005 posts
Posted on 3/4/22 at 8:21 am to
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Pinson has always been a very streaky scorer and shooter. There are nights when he will light up the scoreboard like he did last week vs. Kentucky or in 2020 when he put up 28 and 32 in back-to-back games vs. Auburn and Ole Miss. Then there are games like the 2 points he put up vs. Oklahoma in the NCAAT last season. Even last week vs. UK when he scored 26 he didn't shoot it well: 6-20 overall, 2-7 from 3. He got 12 of his 26 from the FT line.


He had a good first half against Kentucky. In the second half he was 1-8 missing all 3 3 point attempts.

And even with that great first half he took one less shot in the game as compared to Arkansas.
This post was edited on 3/4/22 at 8:21 am
Posted by IM_4_LSU
Savannah, GA
Member since Mar 2014
12612 posts
Posted on 3/4/22 at 9:16 am to
He consistently gets to the rim. He made a great move and I thought he was going to dish the ball for an easy shot instead he made a very sorry attempt at a layup.
Posted by mcspufftiger7
Member since Oct 2020
3144 posts
Posted on 3/4/22 at 9:31 am to
Wrong. Teams don't always call a timeout at the end of the game. Some coaches like the fact that the defense can't get set. maybe considering Eason was out you might want to call one but Pinson got to the goal. Yes he missed the shot but the whole point is to get a good shot and you can't get much better than that.
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
41735 posts
Posted on 3/4/22 at 10:55 am to
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Wrong. Teams don't always call a timeout at the end of the game. Some coaches like the fact that the defense can't get set. maybe considering Eason was out you might want to call one but Pinson got to the goal. Yes he missed the shot but the whole point is to get a good shot and you can't get much better than that.



I have often seen the DEFENSE call a TO in that situation to get their defense set because they don’t want any confusion there.
And like you said in college ball pushing the ball up court immediately frequently is the option chosen by the coach.
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