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re: Pig Cage no longer on the roster

Posted on 3/29/22 at 8:37 pm to
Posted by Big4SALTbro
Member since Jun 2019
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Posted on 3/29/22 at 8:37 pm to
This isn’t a Kelly or house problem. It’s sad the kid was sucked in by Ed and his horrendous dc hire jones. However it’s a bad look for a walk on to walk off after two practices instead of grinding. Kelly and his staff aren’t beholden to what O and the impostor dc and oc promised.
Posted by CottonWasKing
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Posted on 3/29/22 at 8:39 pm to
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No opportunity to show what he can do to earn his scholarship.



Sounds to me he had the opportunity at corner and either didn’t want it or didn’t think he could do it.
Posted by lostinbr
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2017
9728 posts
Posted on 3/29/22 at 8:41 pm to
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I never once said the kid was in the wrong to leave. If you can get a scholarship elsewhere and can’t get one here then by all means go get it.

Fair enough. I just know how tRant is at times when a player leaves, and I think this is a case where it’s not a great look.
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But an obvious friend or family member is here complaining that the current coaching staff didn’t uphold the promises of the former disastrous coaching staff.

Friends and family are biased. It happens. I feel like I’ve seen waaay more insufferable friends/family members in tRant in the past.
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The kid has two options. He can keep feeling sorry for himself and blaming everyone else or he can prove em wrong.

This is kind of what I’m talking about though. Maybe the kid didn’t get a fair shot. Maybe he did. Who knows? But it’s not like he’s going scorched earth on LSU. If he’s a little bitter that he didn’t get a scholarship after playing in 8 games and starting 1, I’d argue that’s pretty normal. Doesn’t mean he’s just sitting around feeling sorry for himself.

I don’t know, I’m just dreading the “well, bye” gifs and whatnot, and trying to get people to see it for what it is: an unfortunate situation.
This post was edited on 3/29/22 at 8:49 pm
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
96427 posts
Posted on 3/29/22 at 8:45 pm to
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He can keep feeling sorry for himself and blaming everyone else or he can prove em wrong.
I mean one way to prove me wrong is to leave. Ask Joe Burrow
This post was edited on 3/29/22 at 8:46 pm
Posted by Springlake Tiger
Uptown
Member since Aug 2006
15531 posts
Posted on 3/29/22 at 8:46 pm to
Pig should transfer to Arkansas to be the mascot. Bye Pig!
Posted by CottonWasKing
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Posted on 3/29/22 at 8:46 pm to
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This is kind of what I’m talking about though. Maybe the kid didn’t get a fair shot. Maybe he did. Who knows? But it’s not like he’s going scorched earth on LSU. If he’s a little bitter that he didn’t get a scholarship after playing in 8 games and starting 1, I’d argue that’s pretty normal. Doesn’t mean he’s just sitting around feeling sorry for himself. I don’t know, I’m just dreading the “well, bye” gifs and whatnot, and trying to get people to see it fit what it is: an unfortunate situation.



I think I get what you’re saying and I agree. I’m trying to not really direct this to the kid and more towards whatever family member we’re talking to here.

I applaud Pig Cage for betting on himself and taking the chance. I applaud him for standing strong during the bowl game.

But I also recognize that that guarantees him absolutely nothing.

It’s time for a handshake and a “thank you for the opportunity” and then go prove em wrong.
Posted by lostinbr
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2017
9728 posts
Posted on 3/29/22 at 8:47 pm to
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if he can find a spot on an FCS team. There are P5 scholarship players who enter the portal and can’t find a scholarship anywhere. Mannie Netherly, for example, never did and now drives a UPS truck

He was a Freshman All-American in FCS. Mannie Netherly had never started a college game when he left LSU, unless I’m mistaken.

I get it. There’s certainly risk. But the other big difference is that Mannie Netherly left as a scholarship player. He had a lot more to lose by leaving than Pig Cage.
Posted by The Hurricane
Gulf of Mexico
Member since Aug 2011
8046 posts
Posted on 3/29/22 at 8:49 pm to
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Pretty sure Tory Carter was always on scholarship.

Wasn’t it quoted as he drove to BR through the night on Red Bull and Metallica since he was a late scholarship add on?
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
65514 posts
Posted on 3/29/22 at 8:49 pm to
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Netherly had never started a college game when he left LSU, unless I’m mistaken.

He started the Fiesta Bowl and was a top 250 player out of high school. Somewhat similar situation, though. They switched his position, he was buried on the depth chart, entered the portal, couldn’t find a scholarship, played juco for a year, still couldn’t find a scholarship, dropped out of school and started working
This post was edited on 3/29/22 at 8:51 pm
Posted by lsu2006
BR
Member since Feb 2004
39991 posts
Posted on 3/29/22 at 8:50 pm to
Was really excited about the branding opportunities with him. What could have been
Posted by lostinbr
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2017
9728 posts
Posted on 3/29/22 at 8:57 pm to
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I applaud Pig Cage for betting on himself and taking the chance. I applaud him for standing strong during the bowl game.

But I also recognize that that guarantees him absolutely nothing.

The thing is, I’m pretty sure in most situations if you play in 8 games and start 1, you’re going to be awarded a scholarship. There are scholarship players that contribute far less in their careers. Im genuinely curious to find out how common it is for players at P5 programs to contribute at that level and not receive scholarships the following year. Maybe it’s more common than I realize.

Unfortunately for Pig Cage, there are several things working against him that are really outside of anyone’s control:
1. The NCAA signing limit waiver lets us take 32 initial counters this year, but doesn’t increase the 85 cap.
2. Everyone got an extra year in 2020.
3. We had a coaching change, which always means a shift in priorities, re-evaluation, etc.

It’s a bit of a unique scenario, IMO, at least historically speaking.
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It’s time for a handshake and a “thank you for the opportunity” and then go prove em wrong.

I agree. Big picture, I think we are on the same page.
This post was edited on 3/30/22 at 9:00 am
Posted by lostinbr
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2017
9728 posts
Posted on 3/29/22 at 9:01 pm to
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He started the Fiesta Bowl and was a top 250 player out of high school. Somewhat similar situation, though.

Ah yes. I forgot about all of the players we had out in that game. From that perspective, it’s definitely a similar situation.

Again, though, Netherly gave up a scholarship to leave. I would feel way differently about this if it were just about playing time.
Posted by bwallcubfan
Louisiana
Member since Sep 2007
38164 posts
Posted on 3/29/22 at 9:01 pm to
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Pig Cage


Imagine the NIL deals in Fayetteville
Posted by CottonWasKing
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Member since Jun 2011
28742 posts
Posted on 3/29/22 at 9:02 pm to
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The thing is, I’m pretty sure in most situations if you play in 8 games and start 1, you’re going to be awarded a scholarship. There are scholarship players that contribute far less in their careers. Im genuinely curious to find out how common it is for players at P5 programs to contribute at that level and not receive scholarships the following year. Maybe it’s more common than I realize.



Brian Kelly told two scholarship players, One a former 5 star receiver and another a guaranteed starting corner, goodbye for being late to workouts.

If he thinks a kid isn’t good enough to have a scholarship it really doesn’t matter what Ed thought or promised.
Posted by Lsufany1979
Member since Aug 2021
28 posts
Posted on 3/29/22 at 9:04 pm to
Nope not his father but I do know the family well. And no his family not bad off at all. I got facts and no need to lie or inflate numbers. But lose your house and business all on the same day from a storm. He don't live in a dorm he lives in a Nicholson apt which is 5500 per semester per semester alone.
Posted by CottonWasKing
4,8,15,16,23,42
Member since Jun 2011
28742 posts
Posted on 3/29/22 at 9:06 pm to
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He don't live in a dorm he lives in a Nicholson apt which is 5500 per semester per semester alone.



Good to see football players are still living in Oakbrook
Posted by Geauxld Finger
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2005
31824 posts
Posted on 3/29/22 at 9:07 pm to
Processed
Posted by mgdtiger
Member since May 2006
2860 posts
Posted on 3/29/22 at 9:09 pm to
Some in here say he didn’t get a fair shot. How can you say that? Kelly was here for bowl practices and the bowl game. If he or the other coaches who have watched all game film from last year including the bowl, felt like he wasn’t good enough for a scholarship then so be it.
The rant and I include myself in this at times fall in love with the random players or recruits and feel jilted if our love isn’t reciprocated by the coaches. I feel for the kid that orgeron made a promise that he couldn’t keep bc he got fired. But that was the chance the kid took when agreeing to it. Kelly has a job and it is t to start Brennan bc he has been here for 6 years. And it isn’t to give pig cage a scholarship bc he played in a bowl game for us with 38 other guys.
Now he can go prove the coaches and any other doubters wrong at another school. If his performance was that good in the bowl game he should have no problem ending up somewhere. Whether mid major or fcs or wherever. Maybe some power 5 program. I still believe he is a lber in a db body and his coverage skills were not good enough. Yet.
Posted by Lsufany1979
Member since Aug 2021
28 posts
Posted on 3/29/22 at 9:12 pm to
You right and life moves on . But there some people on here that think he felt he was entitled to something when he wasn't looking for entitlement. He was looking for a fair opportunity to earn his way to top.
Posted by RightWingTiger
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2003
5341 posts
Posted on 3/29/22 at 9:24 pm to
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THEY told him he would be evaluated during the spring and possibly summer. Then THEY moved him from Nickel to cornerback the day before spring started. Because THEY said they were full at the Nickel position wherehe has been since he got here.. No opportunity to show what he can do to earn his scholarship.

Ok 1st - Who TF is the ‘THEY’ you keep referring to? The ‘Orgeron’ Regime or the new BK coaching staff?

If he were 1 of the best Nickel Backs the staff would HAVE 2 recognize that & at least give him some reps at Nickel. I mean their Professionals, its literally what they do for a living & it behooves them as much if not more than anybody to make sure they’re playing the BEST players at every position.
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