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PFT: Florio picks up the Benson ultimatum

Posted on 10/14/26 at 9:28 am
Posted by Proximo
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Posted on 10/14/26 at 9:28 am


National media don't normally talk about us but Florio will get into the nitty gritty. I disagree with Simms on the "coaching can only do so much" as he isn't really paying attention like we are
This post was edited on 10/14/26 at 9:31 am
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
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Posted on 10/14/26 at 10:03 am to
I've been pretty open about my opinion of Moore and that the writing is on the wall.

But, Gayle went too far the other way. The reason to question Moore isn't because we are 1-4 and that record not being reasonable. I don't think any coach could solve the problems we are currently facing.

If Moore really is on the hot seat and his performance in the next half 3-4 games are important...he's toast.
Posted by Chad504boy
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Posted on 10/14/26 at 10:05 am to
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Gayle went too far the other way.


correct.

we are facing times of action due to the fans low iq tantrums in an overreaction society.

I'm ok with a slow applied pressure on kellen but MUCH of it needs to be done in house and not in public viewing because Jonas the Retard saint on twitter is mad we haven't won a super bowl in kellen's 2nd season.
Posted by S
RIP Wayde
Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 10/14/26 at 10:12 am to
The problems with Moore aren’t necessarily the results, it’s the whole process. Slow starts, anemic offense, no run game, procedure penalties, rarely playing with a lead.

The rest of the dysfunction is on the front office
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
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Posted on 10/14/26 at 10:19 am to
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we are facing times of action due to the


When is the last time we made the playoffs
Posted by BigTigerJoe
Member since Aug 2022
14940 posts
Posted on 10/14/26 at 10:19 am to
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The problems with Moore aren’t necessarily the results, it’s the whole process.

Agreed. Less talented players can still play with discipline and attention to detail.
Posted by Chad504boy
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Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 10/14/26 at 10:22 am to
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When is the last time we made the playoffs


coming out of the drew brees legacy.
a coach quitting on us.
the worst cap situation management getting us back to normal slowly
oldest team in league being made younger.
quite frankly a huge stretch of shitty injury situations for a team that couldn't afford them.

i don't give a shite about your tantrums. wanting results and winning is the easy part bro. you get no cookies.
Posted by PhillyTiger90
Not Phillytiger9
Member since Dec 2015
12078 posts
Posted on 10/14/26 at 10:23 am to
This is one of the scenarios where Kellen Moore’s demeanor pisses people off

He shows no fire, no emotion, no passion when the franchise is in a really tight spot
Posted by Chad504boy
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Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 10/14/26 at 10:29 am to
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Kellen Moore’s demeanor pisses people off


which is childish.

but obviously there are real issues with team right now.

but needing kellen to behave a certain way for cameras is stupid fodder.
Posted by Sauce Castieaux
Asheville, NC.
Member since Nov 2015
5877 posts
Posted on 10/14/26 at 10:32 am to
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but needing kellen to behave a certain way for cameras is stupid fodder.


Agree.

If Kellen was winning games no one would care.
Posted by Snipe
Member since Nov 2015
17498 posts
Posted on 10/14/26 at 10:35 am to
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Less talented players can still play with discipline and attention to detail.


This is a problem with coaching leadership, but it is also a big problem with leadership in the locker room.

Veterans who have played at a successful level don't just forget how to play at that level. If' you've played at a high level and your current coach just isn't motivating you to that level right now, and you're NOT playing up to that level, it's 100% your fault. AND when the younger guys are not playing to that level it's a lot of your fault too because they are looking at you more than the coaching staff. Veterans show the younger player how to be professionals and this team is sorely missing veteran leadership.

Period.

Kellen Moore needs to figure out the problems on his coaching staff and with his scheme because it look to me like the players are not bought into the system or the process.

He should have known in his and Shoughs 2nd year, teams would have good film on them. He wasn't prepared. Now all eyes are on him to make adjustments. He either will rise to the occasion or flop. and if he flops, there is no way anyone survives the house cleaning.

IF Gayle is serious about what she said. If this fails, especially 2 years in then all have to go. If not she'll never regain the fans.
Posted by Proximo
Member since Aug 2011
25595 posts
Posted on 10/14/26 at 10:35 am to
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If Kellen was winning games no one would care.


to an extent. you could tell the media was annoyed by his non-answers during the Cam and Alvin debacles over the summer. he can only say "we love those guys" and "opportunity" so many times to questions before people start calling him on being unauthentic

ross jackson started doing it a couple days ago pretty pointedly
Posted by Chad504boy
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Member since Feb 2005
181080 posts
Posted on 10/14/26 at 10:40 am to
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you could tell the media was annoyed by his non-answers


seriously who gives a frick.

things were playing out in negotiations behind the scenes.

There is nothing for kellen to offer the media. Saints keep a tight lid, its supposed to be that way. Jesus. Now we have to pander to the media better and give them answers that they don't need to be knowing.
Posted by Proximo
Member since Aug 2011
25595 posts
Posted on 10/14/26 at 10:46 am to
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seriously who gives a frick.


everyone. the guy can't answer simple questions and looks like a deer in headlights, that's the point. On top of the fact that he can't coach offense or install a blocking scheme that works

hence why players aren't buying into his leadership
Posted by Chad504boy
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Member since Feb 2005
181080 posts
Posted on 10/14/26 at 10:48 am to
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the guy can't answer simple questions


he can, he's just giving PR fodder. Giving hot one line zingers is fools gold.

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On top of the fact that he can't coach offense or install a blocking scheme that works



I'm all for criticism on actual coaching and schemes. Criticising press conference PR answers and him taking full accountability and is not going to behave like a child and throw his team under the bus for cameras is not a valid criticism.
Posted by Chad504boy
4 posts
Member since Feb 2005
181080 posts
Posted on 10/14/26 at 10:49 am to
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hence why players aren't buying into his leadership


i'm not sure i see that.

i see players that suck and/or are old as frick.


my biggest concerns are special teams are horrible and run blocking/scheme shite. I think Doug Nussmeier, O Line guy, and Special teams guy needs to hit the road.
This post was edited on 10/14/26 at 10:53 am
Posted by saints5021
Louisiana
Member since Jul 2010
19895 posts
Posted on 10/14/26 at 11:13 am to
If Moore had his team playing like the Dolphins and was 1-4, no one would be saying anything. His team visibly quit 3 games into the season. He will not weather the storm because he is incapable of doing it.
Posted by St Augustine
The Pauper of the Surf
Member since Mar 2006
73142 posts
Posted on 10/14/26 at 11:38 am to
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but needing kellen to behave a certain way for cameras is stupid fodder.


If you’re not getting results you better be a damn good talker or able to express a vision about how you’re going to turn your performance around.


Signed literally and career on earth.
Posted by Chad504boy
4 posts
Member since Feb 2005
181080 posts
Posted on 10/14/26 at 11:41 am to
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able to express a vision about how you’re going to turn your performance around.


fodder
Posted by St Augustine
The Pauper of the Surf
Member since Mar 2006
73142 posts
Posted on 10/14/26 at 12:02 pm to
:eyeroll:
This post was edited on 10/14/26 at 12:02 pm
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