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re: PFF doesn’t have Jefferson in the top 10 WRs coming out
Posted on 1/30/20 at 10:08 pm to CaptainPanic
Posted on 1/30/20 at 10:08 pm to CaptainPanic
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4. Henry Ruggs, Alabama
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I can't speak for the bottom 10, but this group has multiple years of excelling at their position, not just one season with a Heisman winning QB
Ruggs best season would be Jefferson’s 3rd best season. arse clown statement bro
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Posted on 1/30/20 at 10:16 pm to bee Rye
And jefferson had two years of the most accurate and possibly best qb in college football history, thus his stats. Im not saying he is not good either, just using his stats is terribly misleading. Lamb, ruggs, jeudy, higgins, etc didnt have the GOAT throwing guys open and buying tons of time in the pocket
This post was edited on 1/30/20 at 10:20 pm
Posted on 1/30/20 at 10:17 pm to josh336
frick you are dumb
Posted on 1/30/20 at 10:19 pm to Elleshoe
Explain without personal insults
This post was edited on 1/30/20 at 10:20 pm
Posted on 1/30/20 at 10:28 pm to josh336
Your argument is that Jefferson may be overrated for having Burrow while:
Lamb had Baker/Hurts
Jeudy and Ruggs had Tua
Higgins had Lawrence
Dude get the frick out. They all had seasons with great QBs. Ever consider maybe Burrow had some of his numbers because he was throwing to a guy like Jefferson?
Jefferson was the second best WR on a squad with AT LEAST 3 ridiculous targets and still put up numbers
Lamb had Baker/Hurts
Jeudy and Ruggs had Tua
Higgins had Lawrence
Dude get the frick out. They all had seasons with great QBs. Ever consider maybe Burrow had some of his numbers because he was throwing to a guy like Jefferson?
Jefferson was the second best WR on a squad with AT LEAST 3 ridiculous targets and still put up numbers
This post was edited on 1/30/20 at 10:29 pm
Posted on 1/30/20 at 10:34 pm to Elleshoe
Its a compliment to burrow. He is better than all those guys.
And hurts isnt a good argument for lamb. Tua was hurt most of this year.
Jefferson is good, but i think if most are honest about it, at a minimum, jeudy, lamb, and maybe shenault are ahead of him. Id argue higgins as well.
Pro scouts will agree
And hurts isnt a good argument for lamb. Tua was hurt most of this year.
Jefferson is good, but i think if most are honest about it, at a minimum, jeudy, lamb, and maybe shenault are ahead of him. Id argue higgins as well.
Pro scouts will agree
This post was edited on 1/30/20 at 10:36 pm
Posted on 1/30/20 at 10:39 pm to josh336
What if Burrow was so good because he had Marshall, Chase, and Jefferson?
Does he throw 60 TDs to Dural, Dupre, and desean Smith?
Does he throw 60 TDs to Dural, Dupre, and desean Smith?
Posted on 1/30/20 at 10:45 pm to Elleshoe
60? Nah, but i dont think 45-50 would be out of the question. If you didnt come away thinking he is one of the best to ever do it, then you didnt know what you were watching. His pocket presence, accuracy, and decision making jumps off the charts more than all those other qbs
Posted on 1/30/20 at 10:45 pm to Desert King
So, can we get him back?????
Posted on 1/30/20 at 11:01 pm to crazy4lsu
quote:He's got great football speed, which is the important thing.
It's weird. He doesn't seem like has elite speed, but he seems to run away from most DB's he faced. Outside of the UGA game, I don't remember any DB catching him from behind.
Re the Georgia game, if you're talking about the Burrow Heisman™ play... he ran a full route deep, then adusted and ran across the field to the right; and then ran back all the way to the left sideline. Probably over 100 yds on that play. I think he was just tired out at the end, and there wasn't an angle.
Posted on 1/30/20 at 11:31 pm to josh336
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And jefferson had two years of the most accurate and possibly best qb in college football history, thus his stats. Im not saying he is not good either, just using his stats is terribly misleading. Lamb, ruggs, jeudy, higgins, etc didnt have the GOAT throwing guys open and buying tons of time in the pocket
Joe Burrow completed just 57% of his passes last year and LSU had the 67th passing offense in the nation. He wasn't the most accurate or the best ever last year (not that it was all his fault either with our offense and only being with the team a few months before starting). Still, Jefferson finished right around the top 5 in the SEC in receiving yards as a sophomore and was huge in LSU's biggest wins.
Jefferson has been awesome. And he does not care about catching the ball in traffic and getting physical after the catch. He put in the work and has the passion, and it showed during his career at LSU.
This post was edited on 1/30/20 at 11:32 pm
Posted on 1/31/20 at 7:35 am to Big EZ Tiger
Jefferson can still be everything the rant says he is even if it’s in the 2nd or 3rd round.
Going in the 1st is cool but it’s no slight on him if it doesn’t happen.
Going in the 1st is cool but it’s no slight on him if it doesn’t happen.
Posted on 1/31/20 at 7:39 am to Iam_PrinceAkeem
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He's better than everybody on that list if u ask me
Well, you’d last 10 minutes as an NFL GM.
Take off the purple glasses. Jefferson is an NFL starter, for sure, but he was not even the best receiver on his own team, and you think he’s the top guy coming out?
Posted on 1/31/20 at 7:45 am to ELVIS U
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Great, maybe the Saints can pick him up
Saints seem to evaluate similarly to PFF so i wouldn't hold up hope
also, i don't have PFF access to read why Jefferson is so low, but i seriously doube that it has nothing to do with his speed/build or any combine-esque stat. PFF does their grades based on film, not physical attributes
Posted on 1/31/20 at 7:47 am to Lester Earl
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This class is just so deep at WR. Early in the draft teams are targeting lead WRs.
agreed
Posted on 1/31/20 at 7:50 am to SlowFlowPro
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PFF does their grades based on film, not physical attributes
Which is curious because they had him as a Mid-Season All-American and one of their highest rated WR's at that point. He performed just as well at the end of the season, the only difference is that Chase exploded more.
Posted on 1/31/20 at 7:57 am to KamaCausey_LSU
yeah i agree i'm curious what led to this b/c i'd figure he was a guy they would really like
Posted on 1/31/20 at 8:04 am to Desert King
Someone is going to get a steal, then. Will be a better pro than any on that list not named Lamb or Jeudy and even then, I'm not sure.
Posted on 1/31/20 at 8:05 am to Lester Earl
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Jefferson can still be everything the rant says he is even if it’s in the 2nd or 3rd round
The question is what value will teams place on a Top WR 2, that will compete for time from Day 1. What else might teams be looking for late 1st? It's a weak OL and Pass Rusher class.
Posted on 1/31/20 at 8:06 am to Desert King
The only WRbi would pick over Jefferson is CeeDee Lamb. I like Shenault, but he's more physical talent than polished WR. I like Jeudy too, but I still think Jefferson is all around better WR in that he can play every WR position, and he's tough and has great strength. He's not losing to many WRs in a battle of agility.
If I were to rank the top 10
Lamb
Jeudy
Jefferson (I would take him #2 WR though)
Higgins
Ruggs/Shenault
Mims
Pittman
Aiyuk
Jennings
If I were to rank the top 10
Lamb
Jeudy
Jefferson (I would take him #2 WR though)
Higgins
Ruggs/Shenault
Mims
Pittman
Aiyuk
Jennings
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