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Paul and power hitters
Posted on 6/10/19 at 12:04 pm
Posted on 6/10/19 at 12:04 pm
I posted this in one my other threads and decided to start a new thread with it. Maybe someone can answer a recruiting question regarding Paul. It seems just about team we played in the post season has had at least 1 player with 15-20 homers. They most we have by a single player is 12. Im not buying the bat shite anymore other teams are crushing it. So what’s the problem? Paul? Recruiting? Hitting Coach?
Posted on 6/10/19 at 12:05 pm to Bow dude72
Someone told me once that we tram them to hit down and look for line drives because the fielding at the college level isn’t as good.
Which is why Bregs went from a 9 homer guy in college to yoking 31 last year in the majors.
Launch angle
Idk if any of that shite is true but someone who knows more than me told me that. And the Stros are known to be all about the launch angle.
Which is why Bregs went from a 9 homer guy in college to yoking 31 last year in the majors.
Launch angle
Idk if any of that shite is true but someone who knows more than me told me that. And the Stros are known to be all about the launch angle.
This post was edited on 6/10/19 at 12:06 pm
Posted on 6/10/19 at 12:06 pm to Bow dude72
Healthy Cabrera without the wrist injury likely hits 15+ this year. Beloso will be a guy who hits 15+ as he gets more experience at this level. Hell, if Garza is the batter we saw come on at the end of the year all season, he hits 15+.
Posted on 6/10/19 at 12:07 pm to Bow dude72
Paul don't recruit cain does that's the problem
Posted on 6/10/19 at 12:09 pm to Bow dude72
They changed the ball. The current players were brought in with different bat/ball restrictions. Now that the new ball is proving to fix the HR problem, it's time to go get some mashers.
Posted on 6/10/19 at 12:10 pm to SammyTiger
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Someone told me once that we tram them to hit down and look for line drives because the fielding at the college level isn’t as good.
This is accurate.
It's not unique to LSU (not meant as a defense to that philosophy). It's a reason that there may be more HS hitters drafted in rounds 11-40 sign pro than there have been previously. Because they're aware of the trends in professional baseball and don't want to spend three years being taught a swing that they'll have to have redone again when they do go pro.
There aren't a lot of college programs out there being progressive with teaching hitting. It would help LSU get a competitive advantage if they started to move in that direction.
Posted on 6/10/19 at 12:13 pm to JJ27
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They changed the ball. The current players were brought in with different bat/ball restrictions. Now that the new ball is proving to fix the HR problem, it's time to go get some mashers.
This is why previously all he did was recruit SS and CF’s. Bats and balls sucked so you scored using speed. I still think that strategy would work as long as the guys with speed can actually hit .300. A lineup featuring 6 guys with speed and 1 power hitter got us to the finals 2 years ago
Posted on 6/10/19 at 12:21 pm to SammyTiger
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Which is why Bregs went from a 9 homer guy in college to yoking 31 last year in the majors.
So it’s a coaching problem.
Posted on 6/10/19 at 12:24 pm to Bow dude72
That’s debatable
It’s a different game at the college level.
More balls are going to find gaps, but I do Think the need for a small ball team has been alleviated with the new balls.
Getting fast guys on base seems like it makes sense but all the saber metrics favor power hitting. And on the other hand you’re not going to find as many power hitter in colleges (other teams seem to find a few though)
It’s a different game at the college level.
More balls are going to find gaps, but I do Think the need for a small ball team has been alleviated with the new balls.
Getting fast guys on base seems like it makes sense but all the saber metrics favor power hitting. And on the other hand you’re not going to find as many power hitter in colleges (other teams seem to find a few though)
This post was edited on 6/10/19 at 12:49 pm
Posted on 6/10/19 at 12:25 pm to Bow dude72
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So it’s a coaching problem.
It's a coaching philosophy issue.
It's absolutely correct that hitting line drives and ground balls will lead to being on base more times in college than in the pros. The defense is just worse.
Additionally, having every guy try to lift the ball will look pretty silly when you have Brandt Broussard and Hal Hughes flying out to the outfielders 40 feet from the fence every time they swing.
Just like it would be silly to coach Garza and Broussard to both lift the ball, it's similarly silly to coach them both to hit ground balls.
The philosophy is fine for some hitters, applying it to every hitter is the coaching problem we have.
Posted on 6/10/19 at 12:35 pm to ProjectP2294
Project, there was also the issue several years ago in Omaha when it seemed like we hit a million balls to the warning track but couldn't get one to go out. That experience may have resulted in a change of philosophy that we were better off hitting singles and doubles than trying to mash it. Now with the new ball, that philosophy may not be valid anymore.
Posted on 6/10/19 at 12:44 pm to Bow dude72
I do have a question about power hitting teams. First let me say I am all in favor of improving our slugging. It makes the games funnier to watch. Now the question is;
Are there teams that are consistent in homers year in year out? A few years ago ULL led the nation in homers for one year. Then crapped out next year. How about Coastal Carolina or Tennessee tech? I am not making an argument against power hitting in any way. Just trying to see if there’s a pattern to teams that hit with power.
Are there teams that are consistent in homers year in year out? A few years ago ULL led the nation in homers for one year. Then crapped out next year. How about Coastal Carolina or Tennessee tech? I am not making an argument against power hitting in any way. Just trying to see if there’s a pattern to teams that hit with power.
Posted on 6/10/19 at 12:52 pm to JJ27
I do think there has been a slight shift in his philosophy if you look at the two post Cannizzaro signing classes.
Posted on 6/10/19 at 12:54 pm to deaux
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Healthy Cabrera without the wrist injury likely hits 15+ this year. Beloso will be a guy who hits 15+ as he gets more experience at this level. Hell, if Garza is the batter we saw come on at the end of the year all season, he hits 15+.
Not to mention Smith was 1 HR shy of us having 4 guys with double-digit HRs, which hasn't happened in awhile. Lack of power was not really an issue with this team. The issue with this team all season was consistency. We would look like a top 5 team some weeks and a non-tourney team the next. Just couldn't ever put it all together, and the injuries certainly didn't help with that.
This post was edited on 6/10/19 at 1:00 pm
Posted on 6/10/19 at 12:59 pm to upgrade
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Are there teams that are consistent in homers year in year out? A few years ago ULL led the nation in homers for one year. Then crapped out next year. How about Coastal Carolina or Tennessee tech? I am not making an argument against power hitting in any way. Just trying to see if there’s a pattern to teams that hit with power.
not that I can see. Arkansas went from leading the SEC in ERA almost every year with crap hitting to above average pitching and power hitting. Vandy went from playing a lot of small ball to having a kid lead the nation in HRs. Ole Miss too. Honestly, you can have success with a lot of different offensive philosophies, but you have to be able to execute whatever philosophy you choose consistently or it really doesn't matter what your philosophy is.
Posted on 6/10/19 at 1:14 pm to Bow dude72
Meh, this team had enough pop to get it done, you had guys sprinkled throughout the lineup with 7-10 HRs.
Posted on 6/10/19 at 1:27 pm to 225Tyga
How many HRs in the regional vs other SEC teams that are still playing?
Posted on 6/10/19 at 1:35 pm to upgrade
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First let me say I am all in favor of improving our slugging. It makes the games funnier to watch.
Doesn’t get much funnier than the comedy of errors we saw this past weekend.
JK. I know what you meant.
Posted on 6/10/19 at 2:04 pm to Gus007
dont know, dont really care anymore. its over. football season finally.
Posted on 6/10/19 at 2:09 pm to MountainTiger
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Project, there was also the issue several years ago in Omaha when it seemed like we hit a million balls to the warning track but couldn't get one to go out. That experience may have resulted in a change of philosophy that we were better off hitting singles and doubles than trying to mash it.
The threads on this board during the 2013 CWS run were jumping all over PM for relying on the home run and how a team of power hitters can't get it done in Omaha. The ball and the field have changed since then but after that recruiting seemed to look for speed and line drives.
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