re: Passing to win. Running to lose.

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You seem well-versed on the stomping grounds of the have nots....interesting. Is there something you're not sharing?

I just want to see enough of the passing game to know that i can count on it when needed. At some point we will need it to win a game.

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I am as thrilled as everyone else with LF7 and hope that he gets the attempts necessary to win the Heisman on the way to a NC or two. My concern with the "if it ain't broke, don't fix it" idea, is that waiting until the running game is stifled may not be the most opportune time to work on "fixing it" with the passing game. Mark me in the column with those that hope to develop some timing and confidence in the passing game, before it becomes an absolute necessity. Odds are that it will be necessary before the season is over. For the record, I don't give a crap about the actual number of running yards vs passing yards. I'm more concerned about the confidence of players with the passing game, should it become a necessity. The sacks and drops against Syracuse seem to indicate that additional reps in that area, during game time, might be a reasonable approach

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I get what you're saying, but do you honestly think that they aren't working on it at all? I haven't gone to a practice, but I bet they throw it a bunch. Now I also am smart enough to know the difference in practice reps and game reps, but we haven't needed it in the game, and havent been in a comfortable enough lead to "work on things" while not looking like we are trying to run the score up.

That may be the biggest reason we haven't seen it. It is socially unacceptable to throw when you are up, but in a close game we are going to go with the bread and butter. Therefore it looks like run/run.

Exactly. Just because we've been running the ball more than throwing doesn't mean Harris can't throw the ball. I've seen nothing that would indicate otherwise. Also, some people on here make it sound like Harris' practices consist of him sitting on the sideline watching LF practice.

I live in a special hellhole corner of SC that consists of equal parts Georgia, SC, and Clemson fans, and some of the stuff on here with LSU "fans" badmouthing the coaching staff and the team is worse than what I hear out here in the hinterlands![/quote]

Solid post my friend. LSU is trying to win football games. Not dictate stats. From what I've seen, the LSU passing game is competent. In all three games I've seen Harris make several quality passes. It was the penalties that took them out of the stat sheet. But I've seen nothing that says LSU is incompetent at passing. If anything, we look exponentially better than last year.

Oh and

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Is there a point (other than the one on your head) to this statement?

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There's that sharp wit again. My point was originally to agree with the OP, and then after you performed your weekly ritual of hunting me down to antagonize me yet again from the diplomaless LSU tshirt warehouse you call a Shreveport home on account that I have this crazy idea that all available comprehensive statistics indicate that Les Miles is better at coaching football than you are at anything, I decided to season my point with a ladle of mockery in your general direction for how incredibly queer and pathetic your habit of initiating such engagement with me has become.

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it's also a FACT that a certain level of passing has been used by every title winning team in the modern era (and we're currently well under the pace of the least-passing team who won a title in the BCS era)

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You know damn well "on pace" doesn't mean anything after 3 games. We're also "on pace" to rush for ~3,800 yards on the season. How does that stack up against the average BCS team? We're on pace for zero turnovers on the year, that'd be quite the accomplishment as well.

Here's what I don't get. "We're going to have to throw for 250 to win a game one day!" Well, maybe. Why does that mean we should be trying to throw for 250 even when we don't need it to win? If the argument is that we need to work on the passing game, your beef is with how we allocate practice time (which nobody in the board has any clue about).

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This is a message board.

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This is a message board.

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You're making my point for me.

No argument with that. Time will tell.

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The tshirt fan who says nothing but bad things about LSU and thinks you're supposed to open up the passing game when you're rushing 8ypc is lecturing people on being smart.

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It's really very easy.

When we play lesser teams, we can steamroll them with our running game, even with little threat of passing. We all understand that. But we can't assume that strategy will work against every team on our schedule.

When we play better teams on our schedule (and those with a stout defense that can slow down our rushing attack), we won't get 8 ypc, so we'll need a more balanced attack.

It's football 101. I don't know why people get bent out of shape about this.