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re: Passing to win. Running to lose.
Posted on 9/28/15 at 8:45 am to liquid rabbit
Posted on 9/28/15 at 8:45 am to liquid rabbit
And we also have NFL caliber talent at WR. Do you guys not notice how stupid talented Dupre is? We have to get those guys rolling.
Ole Miss and Alabama have the bodies on defense and we're playing at their houses. Both are suspect in the secondary, imo. We need to exploit that.
Ole Miss and Alabama have the bodies on defense and we're playing at their houses. Both are suspect in the secondary, imo. We need to exploit that.
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Posted on 9/28/15 at 8:45 am to USARMYDasher
There are essentially three things that can happen on a pass play and two of them are bad. Run the ball if you can, play it safe and win the game. Flashy, throw first offenses havent really worked out real well for the Oregon/TCU/Baylor contingent has it? However, the Alabama/Ohio State/ Florida/ LSU, ground and pound and throw when needed seems to be doing a good job at bringing home crystal! 
Posted on 9/28/15 at 8:50 am to rmnldr
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Running the football is LSU's identity so why go air raid?
NOT ONE SINGLE POSTER HAS ASKED THAT LSU GOES AIR RAID!
NOT A SINGLE ONE!
25-30 passes a game is not "air raid", and until you peabrains get that through your heads no other discussion is needed.
Posted on 9/28/15 at 8:54 am to Choupique19
Until receivers can demonstrate that they can hold onto the ball, I would keep the run-pass ratio the same.
At this point, Fournette is a lot more solid than our receiving corps.
At this point, Fournette is a lot more solid than our receiving corps.
Posted on 9/28/15 at 8:59 am to SaturdayTraditions
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Run the ball if you can, play it safe and win the game. Flashy, throw first offenses havent really worked out real well for the Oregon/TCU/Baylor contingent has it?
a. Oregon is a rushing team
b. nobody is asking for a spread passing game
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However, the Alabama/Ohio State/ Florida/ LSU, ground and pound and throw when needed seems to be doing a good job at bringing home crystal!
LSU is not in the same stratosphere as those 2 offense in terms of passing the ball
we're throwing for right at 100/game right now. bama's lowest passing title team threw for around 2500 yards, or 187.93 yards/game
Posted on 9/28/15 at 9:03 am to liquid rabbit
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Until receivers can demonstrate that they can hold onto the ball, I would keep the run-pass ratio the same.
Now that is a point that can be debated.
I say we have enough capable receivers to find 3-4 that will catch the ball. If one is dropping them, next man up. But I also would add that when LSU goes three and out on the first series of the game running the ball, we are not going to give up on the run, so in turn I also wouldn't give up on the pass because of one player's drops.
Posted on 9/28/15 at 9:04 am to liquid rabbit
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Until receivers can demonstrate that they can hold onto the ball, I would keep the run-pass ratio the same.
At this point, Fournette is a lot more solid than our receiving corps.
i agree our running game is a lot more solid than our passing game, but here is my issue: don't you think that our passing game won't develop if we don't work on it in games? do you think practice alone and ignoring it in games will get everyone comfortable down the road?
Posted on 9/28/15 at 9:10 am to SlowFlowPro
U guy's realize that up the road we play Bama. o' piss & a&m, we had better work on the passing game. 
This post was edited on 9/28/15 at 9:11 am
Posted on 9/28/15 at 9:11 am to SlowFlowPro
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don't you think that our passing game won't develop if we don't work on it in games? do you think practice alone and ignoring it in games will get everyone comfortable down the road?
It seemed like they tried to do that a bit last week. Definitely noticed some throwing on 1st down in particular. There seemed to be some issues in pass protection. The Syracuse D though appeared to play aggressive all day long, like they had nothing to lose.
Posted on 9/28/15 at 9:14 am to SlowFlowPro
I agree that it should be worked on, but not the same type of passes our coaches seem to favor--screens & bombs. If they would work on short passes over the middle, open up more of the field, I could get on board.
But we seem to avoid that for some reason.
But we seem to avoid that for some reason.
Posted on 9/28/15 at 9:16 am to liquid rabbit
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If they would work on short passes over the middle, open up more of the field, I could get on board.
that's a bigger deal to me than anything else, because we will need this to keep chains moving at some point this year
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But we seem to avoid that for some reason.
2008 is why
Posted on 9/28/15 at 9:18 am to SlowFlowPro
Harris has demonstrated he can hit receivers on the hands. Not sure why coaches are still shy to go across the middle. He's no Lee.
Posted on 9/28/15 at 9:18 am to USARMYDasher
Good question. I agree w/ you. I've always looked at it in terms of risk, and predictability. I would have no problem w/ a team running the ball 100% of the time (or passing it 100% of the time) if that team won every game.
Consider the old wishbone teams from the 60s and 70s -- yeah, they ran the vast majority of the time, but there was some uncertainty and risk involved. With the "triple option," the defense had to defend against the fullback dive, QB keeper or pitch to the back. The risk involved is that this type of offense tended to lead to more fumbles than usual.
So, my constructive criticism of LSU's offensive play-calling, over the past few yrs., has not been that it's run-dominant, but that it's predictable.
LSU's mauler mentality is fine, BUT, with it, you MUST have the potential to strike downfield, b/c eventually, the defense will line all 11 defenders on the line, and not even LF will be able to gain yardage. Against most of the teams it will face, LSU can line up and just run the ball on vanilla schemes; in the few games that will decide their fate (Alabama, for one) they cannot do this, they need to diversify the play-calling.
Consider the old wishbone teams from the 60s and 70s -- yeah, they ran the vast majority of the time, but there was some uncertainty and risk involved. With the "triple option," the defense had to defend against the fullback dive, QB keeper or pitch to the back. The risk involved is that this type of offense tended to lead to more fumbles than usual.
So, my constructive criticism of LSU's offensive play-calling, over the past few yrs., has not been that it's run-dominant, but that it's predictable.
LSU's mauler mentality is fine, BUT, with it, you MUST have the potential to strike downfield, b/c eventually, the defense will line all 11 defenders on the line, and not even LF will be able to gain yardage. Against most of the teams it will face, LSU can line up and just run the ball on vanilla schemes; in the few games that will decide their fate (Alabama, for one) they cannot do this, they need to diversify the play-calling.
Posted on 9/28/15 at 9:26 am to liquid rabbit
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I agree that it should be worked on, but not the same type of passes our coaches seem to favor--screens & bombs. If they would work on short passes over the middle, open up more of the field, I could get on board.
But we seem to avoid that for some reason.
Agree.
One would think play action passes to the tight ends and backs out of the backfields would be a big part of our offense based off of how much we run the ball.
Posted on 9/28/15 at 9:50 am to liquid rabbit
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Fournette is averaging 8.5 ypc
Think about that.
imagine what he'd get if the other team had to worry about the pass option.
There's going to come a time when we need to pass, and we wont be able to, and it will cost us a game, and all of you same folks will be complaining about how we don't look like we know what we are doing. Have a good day mate.
Posted on 9/28/15 at 9:52 am to USARMYDasher
Personally I like the run heavy offense if it's working. It really helps out our defense, especially the thin DL last longer in the game. We need to keep defenses on their toes, but pounding the rock successfully with some success through the air just may be the best recipe for this current roster given depth issues on defense.
Posted on 9/28/15 at 9:52 am to Lester Earl
Again, we have demonstrated we can throw screens & bombs. If they start trying something else, I'm on board.
Posted on 9/28/15 at 9:52 am to USARMYDasher
Fournette >>>>>> everyone else
Run the fricking football.
Run the fricking football.
Posted on 9/28/15 at 9:58 am to Lester Earl
quote:You want this to happen so bad.
There's going to come a time when we need to pass, and we wont be able to, and it will cost us a game
Posted on 9/28/15 at 10:01 am to ballscaster
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You want this to happen so bad.
i'm curious in which season it hasn't happened?
again, in the BCS era only 2 teams have won a title throwing fewer than 2500 yards as a team (UTk 1998 and OSU 2002)
those teams averaged right at 173/game, which is almost double our current output
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