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re: Outside of Herman, who are other real and potential HC Candidates?
Posted on 9/5/16 at 4:04 pm to SaintlyTiger88
Posted on 9/5/16 at 4:04 pm to SaintlyTiger88
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and that promotion belongs to Dave Aranda.
I don't know where people on this board get this idea. The guy has never recruited a whole team and has not run a team at any level. He is a great specialist coach and I like him a lot. He may become a great HC someday but he has no experience.
HC is the CEO of the program. He is not a position coach, a coordinator, or a tactician. He is the palm squeezer to the public, head fisherman for recruiting, and coordinator of all functions of the team both operations and coaches...
This is like saying your best cardiologist is the man to run the hospital.
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Posted on 9/5/16 at 4:04 pm to BayouBengals03
I am in the 'anyone but Les' camp.. I genuinely think that almost anyone could do better than Les with the exceptional talent we have thanks to the fence that Saban erected around Louisiana... My one exception would be Lane Kiffin; obviously he'd improve our offense 1000x, but everything else about him makes my skin crawl.. I honestly don't know if I could continue to be an LSU fan if he is hired.. I'd be fine with promoting Aranda, but I'd be happier with Orgeron.
Posted on 9/5/16 at 4:10 pm to HeadCoach23
A name to look out for is Todd Graham at ASU. Fits the mold of prior experience at power 5. Also, I am going to throw out David Sutcliffe, not because I want him, but because Alleva (and the admin) seems like he always wants to make the safest choice.
Posted on 9/5/16 at 4:13 pm to BayouBengals03
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If we can't land Herman, and we assume we burned the bridge with Fisher, what then?
Pray that the 49'ers go 0-16.
Posted on 9/5/16 at 4:15 pm to GetmorewithLes
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HC is the CEO of the program. He is not a position coach, a coordinator, or a tactician. He is the palm squeezer to the public, head fisherman for recruiting, and coordinator of all functions of the team both operations and coaches...
Most great coaches are a coordinator of some sort.
Posted on 9/5/16 at 4:15 pm to c on z
Bobby Petrino
Posted on 9/5/16 at 4:16 pm to HeadCoach23
Jim Tressel
Show-cause is up in December
Show-cause is up in December
This post was edited on 9/5/16 at 4:19 pm
Posted on 9/5/16 at 4:16 pm to lsupride87
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To actually be worse than Miles, the coach will have to not only be a worse recruiter, but also as bad at game day coaching and schemes
First off, that coach will very likely be a worse recruiter.
Sure, he'll be a better coach. That's not really what I'm getting at. This team will lose Fournette, Dural, Dupre, Pocic, Neal, Beckwith, White, Adams. Potentially returning 4-5 starters on offense and 4-5 starters on defense. 2017 was never supposed to be a super year for LSU.
The biggest reason, in my opinion, that Miles was able to step in and continue the success Saban had in the mid-2000s was because he inherited a stacked team and was able to continue strong recruiting. However, as you know, that isn't a normal occurrence in these situations. Far from it.
We play on the road against Alabama, Ole Miss, and Tennessee next season. If 2017 is indeed a "rebuilding year" for LSU, and we go 6-6 or 7-5 with our new coach, I think it will be a lot harder to sustain recruiting success.
It's not "living in fear" or whatever you want to call it. If the season continues with more of the same crap we saw in Game 1, and we lose 4-5 games this year, Miles should absolutely be fired. Period. Very few people would disagree with that. But yes, it is a scary time. Look how long Texas and Tennessee have stayed down. And those two schools have a lot of the same advantages that a school like LSU does.
If LSU fires Miles, it is LIKELY that they will struggle for at least a couple of seasons to turn things around. That's what I don't think people realize.
Best case scenario is LSU somehow turns it around and wins 10 games, maybe the West... And then Miles retires.
Posted on 9/5/16 at 4:18 pm to lsucjn
quote:Mark Dantonio
I am going to throw out
Posted on 9/5/16 at 4:18 pm to BayouBengals03
quote:Texas yes, but Tenn not at all. They have an awful in state recruiting base
ut yes, it is a scary time. Look how long Texas and Tennessee have stayed down
So yes, Texas struggled. But on the other hand, Bama and FSU couldn't be happier with their decisions
Posted on 9/5/16 at 4:19 pm to HeadCoach23
This post was edited on 9/5/16 at 4:22 pm
Posted on 9/5/16 at 4:20 pm to BayouBengals03
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We play on the road against Alabama, Ole Miss, and Tennessee next season. If 2017 is indeed a "rebuilding year" for LSU, and we go 6-6 or 7-5 with our new coach, I think it will be a lot harder to sustain recruiting success
That possible scenario is why it made sense to fire Miles after 2015.
Posted on 9/5/16 at 4:21 pm to LSU_ARMY
O would make an excellent head coach if he hired an innovative OC. A Louisiana man to coach a Louisiana team.
Posted on 9/5/16 at 4:23 pm to lsupride87
quote:The Joe Alleva Factor may be strong. Lol.
I don't see us making that bad of a hire
Posted on 9/5/16 at 4:25 pm to JawjaTigah
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The Joe Alleva Factor may be strong. Lol.
And the F. King factor.
Alleva hasn't been good hiring coaches in the first place. Imagine if his hands are tied.
Posted on 9/5/16 at 4:27 pm to gsvar2004
You are right... he played for the NC last year; why leave?
Posted on 9/5/16 at 4:29 pm to SammyTiger
Josh McDaniels
Lincoln Riley
Major Applewhite
Lincoln Riley
Major Applewhite
Posted on 9/5/16 at 4:31 pm to HeadCoach23
Dabo isn't coming here. He is staying at Clemson until Saban retires and will take over at Alabama.
If we are talking only about coaches with HC experience I think our first two calls are to Herman and Fisher. If I was a betting man, I don't think either of them accept our offer. I think we then start looking at coaches like Fedora and Mora. I think Fedora would come. I'm not sure about Mora.
I also think we show some interest in Kiffin. I wouldn't be upset with that hire.
A risky choice that has the potential to be a disaster but could also pay off is Major Applewhite. Hometown kid that would come in a heartbeat.
If we are talking only about coaches with HC experience I think our first two calls are to Herman and Fisher. If I was a betting man, I don't think either of them accept our offer. I think we then start looking at coaches like Fedora and Mora. I think Fedora would come. I'm not sure about Mora.
I also think we show some interest in Kiffin. I wouldn't be upset with that hire.
A risky choice that has the potential to be a disaster but could also pay off is Major Applewhite. Hometown kid that would come in a heartbeat.
Posted on 9/5/16 at 4:32 pm to MSUBSNTiger
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Josh McDaniels Lincoln Riley Major Applewhite
No reason LSU should have to settle on a coach who hasn't had success as a HC.
Posted on 9/5/16 at 4:32 pm to HeadCoach23
Herman or Fisher. I hope lsu didn't ruin their chance with Fisher after last year
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