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re: OU Forum (DirtBurglars.com) hot takes.
Posted on 12/15/19 at 12:15 pm to whitetiger1234
Posted on 12/15/19 at 12:15 pm to whitetiger1234
Agreed... As if Joe and this LSU team doesn't have enough reasons to stomp OU into a mud hole.
This is going to be fun to watch!
This is going to be fun to watch!
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Posted on 12/15/19 at 12:55 pm to NYSooner
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It was funny watching A&M and Mizzou shred vaunted SEC defenses on a weekly basis and go on to have more success than they were having in the lowly B12.
Say what?
Mizzou has one good year in the SEC. they haven’t lost less than 5 games per season since 2014 and have lost 6 or more in 4 of those years. A&M has averaged 5 losses annually since 2014.
OU is an elite program but you’re almost alone in the B12 since Texas has sucked. TCU is down. Sexual predator U is making a comeback and OSU is decent. Not exactly a murderers row.
Posted on 12/15/19 at 1:58 pm to JohnnyU
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OU is an elite program but you’re almost alone in the B12 since Texas has sucked. TCU is down. Sexual predator U is making a comeback and OSU is decent. Not exactly a murderers row.
We'll see. At least 3 SEC vs Big 12 matchups coming soon.
OU fans are not uptight as portrayed here. We're funny, enjoy razzin, and have high a regard for LSU, believe me.
No reason to hate on us. I predicted on some forum last year that Burrow would be the next Tom Brady. That was LAST season I said that and got laughed at.
They ain't laughin now.
Posted on 12/15/19 at 2:12 pm to JohnnyU
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Say what?
Mizzou has one good year in the SEC. they haven’t lost less than 5 games per season since 2014 and have lost 6 or more in 4 of those years. A&M has averaged 5 losses annually since 2014.
OU is an elite program but you’re almost alone in the B12 since Texas has sucked. TCU is down. Sexual predator U is making a comeback and OSU is decent. Not exactly a murderers row.
The statement in question was about their success running a Big XII offense against supposedly impenetrable SEC defenses -- not overall success. I posted statistical evidence that Heupel was shredding SEC defenses at Mizzou, and I can post 49-42 shootouts between mighty Bama and A&M. You guys don't seem interested in facts, though.
But in regard to overall success, Mizzou and A&M have had more success in the SEC than they did in the Big XII. A&M won 8+ games 3 times from 2000-2011 in the Big XII, were 0.500 or worse in 5 of those seasons, and never had a 10 win season. The fact that they are winning 8+ games on a yearly basis is statistically a very impressive improvement. Sumlin is currently struggling to win games in the Pac-12.
Mizzou was also much more relevant in the SEC under Pinkel than they were in the Big XII. They had 2 10+ wins in their first 3 years in the SEC. They had 10+ wins in the Big 12/8 only 3 times since 1960 until they left in 2011 -- and they only would have had one if it weren't for how weak the Big XII north was in two of those seasons.
Posted on 12/15/19 at 2:41 pm to NYSooner
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Now do we think that Burrow is potentially the best ever? Absolutely not. Now that you've finally entered the 21st century offensively, you'll know why I'm saying this in a few years. Your passing attack will not die with Burrow's departure.
Do you think LSU will complete 70% of its downfield passes against top 10 opponents? Because, if so, I’m booking my hotel for the 2021 championship game.
Posted on 12/15/19 at 2:51 pm to NYSooner
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I can post 49-42 shootouts between mighty Bama and A&M. You guys don't seem interested in facts, though.
That only happened once though and its the only time Aggie has ever put up 30+ points on Bama since joining the conference.
I believe they've only done it twice against LSU.
Maybe twice against Auburn.
This post was edited on 12/15/19 at 2:54 pm
Posted on 12/15/19 at 3:49 pm to NYSooner
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If we're delusional about our QB play, it's that we're too negative about Hurts.
I agree with this point. You guys as a fan base are way too hard on Hurts because he isn't able to produce offensively like your messiah Baker Mayfield could with the offense around him. Kyler Murray also took more crap than he deserved from OU fans, although he didn't have a personality that is the antithesis of the fanbase like Jalen has, so he didn't see the full unbridled wrath of the fans like Jalen. Jalen is too Saban-esq in his down-to-business "We have to improve we're not a championship team yet" and it drives Oklahoma fans nuts, because you all want to believe you are not only national champions every year, but that every other team in college football is beneath you every year.
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Now do we think that Burrow is potentially the best ever? Absolutely not.
LSU's offense will still be quite good in the coming years but Burrow is unquestionably the best QB LSU has ever had, and one of the best to play the game at this level. There's a reason he's breaking nearly every record there is and it's not just "we learned how to play offense"
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None of us expect to win the NC this year.
Again, your fan base expects to win the NC EVERY year. Which on its own is an admirable trait, it's just when you couple it with the arrogance that most OU fans display, it's nauseating.
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Clemson has the best team, though, and I expect them to win it all. I bet they beat LSU by 10+
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but we are the 4th most deserving team to be here
I agree with this.
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We would succeed in any conference.
I also agree with this.
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Over the last few years, we went head to head with the best the SEC had to offer (Bama/Saban) -- we split.
Completely irrelevant. A sample size of two games isn't enough data to come to any meaningful conclusion. OU fans love to beat their chest about that Sugar Bowl, but one win against a deflated Alabama team that was expecting to win it all *again* has absolutely nothing to do with predicting success against LSU in a few weeks, or the SEC in general, or even Alabama if Oklahoma had theoretically decided to join the SEC West.
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We went head to head against the best the B10 had to offer (Meyer/Ohio State) -- we split. We could go head to head against anybody and I'd expect us to split (or better; except Clemson -- they have our number).
Is this why you think Clemson would be double digit favorites against us? Because your precious team hasn't been able to win in a statistically insignificant match-up? Oklahomans I swear...
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For years, we've been hearing how the Big 12 doesn't play any defense
It would have helped to play defense at some point. Big 12 teams were rocking some of the lowest numbers in NCAA history by the stats during your offensive renaissance.
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and we've always responded that it is impossible to shut out down these offenses.
Since I know where you're going with this, let me preempt your argument by pointing out that LSU and Alabama are still putting up decent defensive numbers despite having some of the top offenses in the country. Now to be fair to you, so has Oklahoma this year finally, but I know you're about to lead into "but but but Oklahoma had a high powered offense and it led the defensive numbers to slip a bit! SEC is having the same problem now!" as you were rocking mid-tier FCS defense stats a few years ago.
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Now that the SEC has (finally) adopted our style of offense, the SEC is now having 45-40 shootouts.
Well hey, what do you know, there it is.
The biggest disappointment here is that your wall of drivel didn't end up going anywhere. Some ending about "sorry you got your feelings hurt lol" or something. Please watch some college football that isn't just Oklahoma and Texas and come back to discuss when you're more well rounded. Living in Oklahoma you'll have to pay extra to get games that aren't OU, I know how it is because I lived there at one point, so I don't really blame you personally for being ignorant. It's part of the culture that surrounds you.
Posted on 12/15/19 at 5:14 pm to whitetiger1234
Hey OU,
Sometimes the train is just too loaded and moving too fast on the track to be stopped or derailed. Applies to Joe "Heisman" Burrow as well as, hopefully LSU.
See you in the Peach Bowl where you see why Joe was the overwhelming Heisman winner!
Sometimes the train is just too loaded and moving too fast on the track to be stopped or derailed. Applies to Joe "Heisman" Burrow as well as, hopefully LSU.
See you in the Peach Bowl where you see why Joe was the overwhelming Heisman winner!
Posted on 12/15/19 at 5:32 pm to whitetiger1234
Honestly, Oklahoma is more of a territory than a State. The entire area is a vast waste land. Zero culture. It's where meat comes from. Or something
Posted on 12/15/19 at 6:48 pm to Walnut
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I agree with this point. You guys as a fan base are way too hard on Hurts because he isn't able to produce offensively like your messiah Baker Mayfield could with the offense around him. Kyler Murray also took more crap than he deserved from OU fans, although he didn't have a personality that is the antithesis of the fanbase like Jalen has, so he didn't see the full unbridled wrath of the fans like Jalen. Jalen is too Saban-esq in his down-to-business "We have to improve we're not a championship team yet" and it drives Oklahoma fans nuts, because you all want to believe you are not only national champions every year, but that every other team in college football is beneath you every year.
You completely missed the boat on nearly all of this. Why you started a nonsensical rant about personality is beyond me. We loved Kyler, and many consider him better than Baker. The dislike of Jalen has nothing to do with his personality, and everything to do with his limited ability as a passer. Do you think Jalen got benched at Bama because of his personality? Or was it maybe his limited ability as a passer?
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LSU's offense will still be quite good in the coming years but Burrow is unquestionably the best QB LSU has ever had
Not saying much.
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Is this why you think Clemson would be double digit favorites against us? Because your precious team hasn't been able to win in a statistically insignificant match-up? Oklahomans I swear...
It's either that...or the fact that they're the defending champions, destroyed the "greatest team ever" in the NC last year, are closing in on a 30 game win streak, and haven't won by less than 30 since September. You are very poor at jumping to conclusions.
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let me preempt your argument by pointing out that LSU and Alabama are still putting up decent defensive numbers
Ahhh yes! The SEC...conference of decent defenses. Has quite a ring to it.
Posted on 12/15/19 at 6:50 pm to Kool Hand Luke
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It's where meat comes from
And meth, and trashy Indian casinos
Posted on 12/15/19 at 7:09 pm to NYSooner
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Not saying much.
And this perfectly sums up why I don’t have much respect for Sooner fans. I have nothing much bad to say about your team, and you immediately start talking shite about LSU *through their entire history*
Get over yourself
Posted on 12/15/19 at 7:20 pm to Splackavellie
OU fans are saying our conference is know for it's offense??????????? 
:confused: :confused: :confused: :confused:
Until Saban switched to spread 4-5 years ago all we were know for was defense.
:confused: :confused: :confused: :confused: Until Saban switched to spread 4-5 years ago all we were know for was defense.
Posted on 12/15/19 at 7:23 pm to Me
OU in for a butt whippin... 
Posted on 12/15/19 at 7:29 pm to NYSooner
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Now that the SEC has (finally) adopted our style of offense, the SEC is now having 45-40 shootouts.
I mean there were only like two of those in the SEC this season but okay.
Posted on 12/15/19 at 11:57 pm to SidewalkTiger
And one of them (you) marched right through it.
Georgia didn't exactly destroy us our last appearance. Although the talk preceding the game was very similar to what I read on this board.
I think you guys have the odds in your favor. Most of us wanted to see our defense just improve. Making it to the playoffs is enough to jazz any fanbase.
It will be interesting reading this board if you lose.
It will be more interesting reading your opponent's board after their trip to NOLA if you win. The stories of how low rent your fans were in 03 are legendary.
Good luck tigers.
Georgia didn't exactly destroy us our last appearance. Although the talk preceding the game was very similar to what I read on this board.
I think you guys have the odds in your favor. Most of us wanted to see our defense just improve. Making it to the playoffs is enough to jazz any fanbase.
It will be interesting reading this board if you lose.
It will be more interesting reading your opponent's board after their trip to NOLA if you win. The stories of how low rent your fans were in 03 are legendary.
Good luck tigers.
Posted on 12/16/19 at 12:26 am to NWBoomer
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The stories of how low rent your fans were in 03 are legendary.
LOL OU fans are in ZERO position to talk about "low rent" fans. That may be the most hypocritical post today
Posted on 12/16/19 at 12:43 am to NYSooner
Missouri lucked out by joining when the East was largely dog shite. Still they only have 2/8 years above .500
A&M has been helped as much by Texas being bad as they have from anything else. Also, most of their success was due to Manziel. They’ve had one season with less than 4 losses and that was Manziel’s big year. Only 3/8 seasons above .500 in the league.
A&M has been helped as much by Texas being bad as they have from anything else. Also, most of their success was due to Manziel. They’ve had one season with less than 4 losses and that was Manziel’s big year. Only 3/8 seasons above .500 in the league.
Posted on 12/16/19 at 2:38 am to NYSooner
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You're right, it was only the last 4. I forget how weird SEC scheduling is. Doesn't change that fact that your conference had no answer for Heupel after the second conference game.
The 2017 Missouri team that "shredded SEC defenses" only won one SEC game against an opponent with a winning record. They scored less than 30 against both ranked teams they played.
The 4 games you mentioned were against teams with a combined 17-30 record. Arkansas and Vanderbilt are perennial bottom rung SEC teams. Tennessee hasn't been relevant in a decade, and that Florida team was 1 of the 2 worst teams they've had in the past 40 years.
They aren't exactly prime examples of good SEC defenses.
Posted on 12/16/19 at 2:47 am to Sooner1984
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Kansas State beat an SEC team who beat Ole Miss, Arkansas, and Kentucky.
Ole Miss and Arkansas fired their coaches. Kentucky was 3-5 in conference. Beating a 6-6 Mississippi State team that went 3-5 in the SEC isn't very impressive.
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K State would be a middle to upper rung team in the SEC this year.
They would be middle at best. LSU, Alabama, Auburn, Georgia, and Florida would all be above them.
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