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re: One play I didn't see discussed here was the base hit in the 9th to tie the game.
Posted on 6/5/24 at 9:23 am to Run DMC
Posted on 6/5/24 at 9:23 am to Run DMC
Yeah I didn’t understand all the FB calls to RH hitters that inning. I thought maybe on short rest they didn’t want him throwing a bunch of offspeed. I kept thinking if he throws a slider with 2 strikes, it’s a K on Wilkerson. But then when the LH hitters came up, they went back to offspeed. Still don’t understand the pitch calls or not letting Ack have at least one more batter facing the bottom of the order.
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Posted on 6/5/24 at 9:31 am to Meauxjeaux
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With the tying on second, you don’t want to allow a double which would allow the winning run to get to second.
You are conceding the tie in order to extend the game keeping the batter runner at 1B.
I don't think you realize how deep he actually was playing, you may want to go back and rewatch the hit. He wasn't just playing deep, he was sitting at about 345' and ~140' from the line (yes I went and measured).
He would have been in the middle of the track at Alex Box. There is playing deep, then there is playing THAT deep. Against a guy that doesn't hit for power. (2HR this year, 4 in his college career)
Also was the same exact positioning he was in two batters before when we gave up a double.
This post was edited on 6/5/24 at 9:44 am
Posted on 6/5/24 at 9:48 am to Pistol 23
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need to go back and watch the end of the game again, but it seemed like Pearson was positioned very deep in left field. Wilkerson had two HR's on the year. If he's at normal depth, maybe he catches that ball?
He was way too deep especially for the 9 hole hitter which i think was at bat at that time
Posted on 6/5/24 at 10:10 am to Run DMC
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This was the whole issue in this situation for me. Yeskie called 11 straight fastballs, 9 of them to the 9 hole hitter with 1 out
Inside fastballs at that to a right handed hitter, when the ump is calling strikes 6 inches off the outside corner.
Posted on 6/5/24 at 10:15 am to Pistol 23
I played left field in college and would adjust my position based on what I was seeing from the hitter. We didn’t have advanced scouting like they do now so we had to make pitch by pitch adjustments. I would frequently play up on left handed hitters because not many folks would hit with power to opposite field. IMO, Pearson should have been playing further up based off of the hitter being late on his swings, which would have only resulted in the play you saw, a jam hit to left field.
Posted on 6/5/24 at 10:47 am to Pintail
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I don't think you realize how deep he actually was playing, you may want to go back and rewatch the hit. He wasn't just playing deep, he was sitting at about 345' and ~140' from the line (yes I went and measured). He would have been in the middle of the track at Alex Box. There is playing deep, then there is playing THAT deep. Against a guy that doesn't hit for power. (2HR this year, 4 in his college career) Also was the same exact positioning he was in two batters before when we gave up a double
All of this. If he’s playing normal depth either the double is a single or the single only advances the runner one base. Either way Tigers Win
Posted on 6/5/24 at 11:02 am to Meauxjeaux
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You should read the sentence again and again and again HT 10 until you figure out your issue
If that ball is torched to the OF, then Pearson has a chance to make a play. Or if it's a place where the run will score, you can hold the batter to a single. It was a dinky little sawed off hit. The fact that it was that type of hit does not make the defensive positioning bad.
Posted on 6/5/24 at 11:23 am to Pintail
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I don't think you realize how deep he actually was playing, you may want to go back and rewatch the hit. He wasn't just playing deep, he was sitting at about 345' and ~140' from the line (yes I went and measured).
He would have been in the middle of the track at Alex Box. There is playing deep, then there is playing THAT deep. Against a guy that doesn't hit for power. (2HR this year, 4 in his college career)
Also was the same exact positioning he was in two batters before when we gave up a double.
Damn. I don't see how anyone can read this post and reasonably say that it's where he should have been positioned.
Posted on 6/5/24 at 11:47 am to Got Blaze
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Unfortunately his 94-96 mph fastball had little movement and the UNC batters were picking it up well
I wonder if the fact that he had just pitched 107 FREAKING PITCHES 3 days before had anything to do with it.
Posted on 6/5/24 at 11:53 am to Pistol 23
Coaching is simple after the game is over!!!
Posted on 6/5/24 at 12:07 pm to windmill
The first base coach that’s in the dugout while batting helps with positioning- this isn’t the players call. It’s a mutual decision
Posted on 6/5/24 at 6:03 pm to LSBoosie
JUST LET IT GO BRO!!! ITS OVER
Posted on 6/5/24 at 11:57 pm to Got Blaze
Thanks. I didn't look at the board until a few hours after the game and probably just missed it.
Posted on 6/6/24 at 6:26 am to windmill
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It has indeed been discussed in other posts and the consensus is that Pierson was playing too deep..Perhaps JJ had a different idea.
Perhaps JJ had him playing that deep.
Posted on 6/6/24 at 8:40 am to Pintail
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He went around the pitch before that should have been strike 3
No. He didn't. The replay confirmed it.
Posted on 6/6/24 at 10:38 am to Pintail
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he was sitting at about 345' and ~140' from the line (yes I went and measured).
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Also was the same exact positioning he was in two batters before when we gave up a double.
Our LF always seems to play further from the line than the opponents with a right-hand batter. Check the image below of that leadoff double in the 9th; CF is not even visible against a righty batting. If Pearson is playing closer to the line, I don't think this was a double.
Even if it was a double, OP is right that two batters later that Pearson was so far from the bloop single that the runner didn't have to hesitate b/c it was obvious the ball was going to drop. In fact, by the time the ball hit the ground, the runner from 2B was already at 3rd. If Pearson wasn't so deep and away from the line, the runner would have had to hold up and probably wouldn't have gotten that jump.
Posted on 6/6/24 at 10:55 am to Hold That Tiger 10
quote:That only works if the runner is on 1st, it’s called “no doubles defense”
You have to play your OF deeper in that situation to try to prevent the runner from second from scoring. 99.9% of teams in baseball are playing it that exact way. Them getting sawed off and it dropping perfectly doesn't make it the wrong call. It's just the bad break of that situation.
With a runner on 2nd we put ourselves in the worst possible defense positioning. We allowed for a situation where a weak routine pop up out to the OF could now actually score a run. It made zero sense
Posted on 6/6/24 at 1:08 pm to Hold That Tiger 10
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You have to play your OF deeper in that situation to try to prevent the runner from second from scoring. 99.9% of teams in baseball are playing it that exact way.
No you don’t. The runner was already in scoring position and need to have a chance to throw the runner from 2nd out at the plate on anything that gets through. Anything hit over your head the runner moves or scores in that situation. Bad positioning.
Posted on 6/6/24 at 1:31 pm to Le Tenia
Have the kids in pale blue that were beating, yelling, and pulling on the chain link fence and screaming at the top of their lungs for him to drop the ball, and II mean right next to him! Right next to our man and I really think they made he lose his concentration! I was so Pissed! Then I thought back to my own sports adventures and remembered playing in a Basketball game once, actually more than once but I was great at stealing the ball but when I would get it and be all alone with an easy layup... I would glance at the crowd and F Up 99% of the time! Miss an easy layup! That pissed my off so bad but I would just let it get to me? Anyway yes I hated he dropped the ball but I started thinking if I was none of those kids I would have been as loud or louder and it made me think those kids will remember that the rest of their lives! They won that game for N.C. those lil C suckers! I hope they win the whole thing I guess. I have had some good times in NC., so because of the Smokies... Geaux Tarheels !
Posted on 6/6/24 at 5:48 pm to Run DMC
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Yeskie called 11 straight fastballs, 9 of them to the 9 hole hitter with 1 out. An 0-2 count and a slider in that situation would have been a swing and a miss about 99% of the time.
I think Yeskie definitely shares in the blame, but Jump also could not throw a strike with anything off-speed either. Yeskie did him no favors but it was just shite luck that Jump had some of his worst stuff of the season in that outing.
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