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re: Officiating Crew for Auburn. Suspicious

Posted on 9/23/13 at 8:47 am to
Posted by Fishhead
Elmendorf, TX
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 9/23/13 at 8:47 am to
Yes, he was trailing OBJ all the way. I heard he thought it was a screen called.
Posted by Salmon
On the trails
Member since Feb 2008
83510 posts
Posted on 9/23/13 at 8:47 am to
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If there's one thing in life that's universal where ever there is large amounts of money involved, it's corruption....it's about the point spread, dude


so you're saying Miles purposely let Auburn back into the game with his conservative play calling?

interesting...
Posted by The Egg
Houston, TX
Member since Dec 2004
79085 posts
Posted on 9/23/13 at 8:48 am to
and of course we're not suspicious of that at all.
Posted by PeaRidgeWatash
Down by the docks of the city
Member since Dec 2004
15210 posts
Posted on 9/23/13 at 8:50 am to
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didn't we get away with an ineligible man downfield when they called a PI on Auburn earlier in the game? I think it was evan washington rumbling way down the field


Yep
Posted by lsu711
Member since Sep 2003
13004 posts
Posted on 9/23/13 at 8:51 am to
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Officiating Crew for Auburn. Suspicious


1st and Goal at LSU 1 AUBURN penalty 5 yard False Start on Patrick Miller accepted.
1st and Goal at LSU 6 Nick Marshall rush for 2 yards, AUBURN penalty 5 yard Illegal Forward Pass on Nick Marshall accepted.
2nd and Goal at LSU 9 Corey Grant rush for 7 yards.
3rd and Goal at LSU 2 Tre Mason rush for 2 yards for a TOUCHDOWN.

This post was edited on 9/23/13 at 8:52 am
Posted by clevelandtiger
Member since Sep 2007
263 posts
Posted on 9/23/13 at 8:52 am to
Not 1 hold call against AU which happened early and often to LSU defense and was part of reason some of the runs broke so well in 2nd half...but about what I expect from Ritter and co...
Posted by lsufan1971
Zachary
Member since Nov 2003
18074 posts
Posted on 9/23/13 at 8:53 am to
This was Tom Ritter's crew. He absolutely has the worst crew in the SEC. His crew handled the 2006 LSU-Auburn game where the unsportsmanlike call was made at the end of the game for Ronnie Prude trying to block the extra point. Tom Ritter is a horrible individual and I hope he gets the clap.
Posted by skullhawk
My house
Member since Nov 2007
22936 posts
Posted on 9/23/13 at 8:58 am to
Tom Ritter crew. Nothing suspicious. Just incompetence. Every single game his crew handles is a mess no matter what teams are playing.
Posted by MMauler
Member since Jun 2013
19216 posts
Posted on 9/23/13 at 9:02 am to
I just looked at it all as the refs just trying to keep the game closer than it was.


What pissed me off more than anything was the onside kick. From the replay, it was MORE than clear that the kicker touched the ball before the 10 yards. The guys in the replay truck kept showing the stop-motion picture where the kicker was reaching back and touching the ball before the 10 yards. Yet, despite this, Brad Nessler kept insisting that the kicker didn't touch the ball.

It was almost like the guys in the replay truck were trying to say, "HEY F-CKFACE, we keep showing you PROOF that he touched the ball prior to the 10 yard marker -- OVER AND OVER AND OVER AGAIN. So, quit making a complete arse of yourself."

But, Nessler kept insisting that the ball had traveled the requisite 10 yards.
Posted by McLemore
Member since Dec 2003
31404 posts
Posted on 9/23/13 at 9:03 am to
all failure. come back after T-town and you may have valid points.

i liked the fact that they basically let the olines play--i don't remember many if any holding calls on linemen. to me that call is the most susceptible to bias and inconsistent calling because you can arguably find holding on pretty much any play.
Posted by dkreller
Laffy
Member since Jan 2009
30246 posts
Posted on 9/23/13 at 9:05 am to
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Example 1: After the Auburn onside kick, the officials hurried to place the ball that way their would be no review.

you're being paranoid....try switching to a milder strain
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Example 2: The touchdown run if I'm not mistaken by Hill that was called back for a terrible holding call right next to the Auburn sideline, the Auburn player actually tried to shed the block and ended up pulling I think it was Landry down.

was shitty holding call...I'll give ya that
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Example 3: Jarvis Landry TD Catch, this was the most obvious, there was a face mask, and Landry never touched the ground, I don't know if this was unreviewable, but that was awful.

he was down, elbow and helmet
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Example 4: Beckam Jr. Pass interference, he was not within 5 yards of anyone in the first place, and secondly it looked like the official threw the flag being scared he was going to catch it inbounds.

was very ticky tack
Posted by clamdip
Rocky Mountain High
Member since Sep 2004
17853 posts
Posted on 9/23/13 at 9:12 am to
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1st and Goal at LSU 1 AUBURN penalty 5 yard False Start on Patrick Miller accepted.
1st and Goal at LSU 6 Nick Marshall rush for 2 yards, AUBURN penalty 5 yard Illegal Forward Pass on Nick Marshall accepted.
2nd and Goal at LSU 9 Corey Grant rush for 7 yards.
3rd and Goal at LSU 2 Tre Mason rush for 2 yards for a TOUCHDOWN.
THIS! I thought I was seeing things. How inept do you have to be to get the spot wrong by 2 freakin' yards?

On the flipside, I think there was a penalty on Auburn (defensive holding?) where we were driving towards the south endzone on a play where our #75 seemed to very clearly be way down the field on a pass to the 10 yard line or so.

There was a flag and I thought for sure it'd be for the lineman being downfield. But, it wound up being a call on Auburn for something unrelated. You could see #75 throwing his arms up to the sideline after the play like "hey, I don't know what I'm doing way down here either!"
Posted by dreaux
baton rouge
Member since Oct 2006
40881 posts
Posted on 9/23/13 at 9:16 am to
We got our fair share of generous calls.
Posted by LoyalTiger
Member since Feb 2007
1491 posts
Posted on 9/23/13 at 9:17 am to
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landrys helmet hit the ground. no elbow.


Which makes him down, just as if his elbow hit.
Posted by Phil2012
The planet
Member since Dec 2005
6213 posts
Posted on 9/23/13 at 9:17 am to
Salmon, I've RVed around most of Montana, and you are not as smart as most folks I met up there!
Posted by Fishhead
Elmendorf, TX
Member since Jan 2008
12170 posts
Posted on 9/23/13 at 9:18 am to
Alright, here we go again.

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I thought I was seeing things. How inept do you have to be to get the spot wrong by 2 freakin' yards?


The rule states that the ball is marked 5 yds from where the ball was thrown (the 4), because up until then, it was a legal RUN. I'll go get the rule...again...

7.3.2.e. If thrown from in or behind the neutral zone after a ball carrier in possession of the ball has gone beyond the neutral zone [S35 and S9].
PENALTY—Five yards from the spot of the foul; also loss of down if by Team A before team possession changes during a scrimmage down (A.R. 3-4-3-IV and A.R. 7-3-2-II) [S35 and S9].


Up to the point of the Illegal Pass, it was a legal run. The offense gets the benefit (or the detriment) of the legal run.

Go the other way. LOS is B's 40. A7 runs to the B35, and throws an Illegal Forward Pass. For some reason, B declines the penalty. Where is the next spot? You don't go back to the 40, it's the B35.

Everything up to the point of an Illegal Pass is a legal run.
This post was edited on 9/23/13 at 9:20 am
Posted by JawjaTigah
Bizarro World
Member since Sep 2003
22493 posts
Posted on 9/23/13 at 9:20 am to
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We were fortunate on the onside kick call.
This one could have gone either way. At J-H, I suspect Auburn would have kept the possession. Glad it was at Tiger Stadium. Fuel for next year's fire now.
Posted by Duckie
Tippy Toe, Louisiana
Member since Apr 2010
24314 posts
Posted on 9/23/13 at 9:21 am to
They were bad for AU too.
Posted by McLemore
Member since Dec 2003
31404 posts
Posted on 9/23/13 at 9:21 am to
no game is called perfectly. i didn't feel like LSU was getting shafted, and I am a chronic ref critic.
Posted by Wayne Campbell
Aurora, IL
Member since Oct 2011
6360 posts
Posted on 9/23/13 at 9:22 am to
quote:

boone called on holding. but he wasnt.


onside kick was close but it looked like he touched it.


He may not have been holding, but Hill was definitely not set before the snap. Surprised that didn't get called, either Nessler or Blacklege saw it.

And as glad as I am that the onside kick got overturned, I didn't think it would be, and am still not sure that it should have been. It was very close to 10 yards.

That being said, the officials didn't have anything to do with that game being as close as it was. LSU allowed Auburn to climb back in.
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