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re: OFFICIAL Discussion Thread for New LSU DC Candidates

Posted on 1/17/20 at 1:54 pm to
Posted by MSTiger61
Member since Jan 2020
760 posts
Posted on 1/17/20 at 1:54 pm to
Chizik > Richard. We need someone with experience as a college DC. Recruiting abilities and the proven factor favors Chizik.
Posted by SlidellCajun
Slidell la
Member since May 2019
15699 posts
Posted on 1/17/20 at 1:54 pm to
Todd Grantham makes the most sense to me.

He'd be making an upward move and he's familiar with the SEC. He might have a bit of a chip on his shoulder too.

Some of the other mentions are not remotely possible since they'd be making lateral moves to come here and would likely have to pay a big exit fee.
I don't see that happening.
Posted by MSTiger61
Member since Jan 2020
760 posts
Posted on 1/17/20 at 1:59 pm to
Dale, I agree with you on Grantham as a strong candidate but he would be making a lateral move as well. IMO, given our financials and stature as a program, the only coordinator who would refuse us by reason of a "lateral move" is Brent Venables. Leonhard might refuse because of his history with Wisconsin, but not because of the notion of a lateral move.
Posted by Sissidog02
Member since Jan 2020
6695 posts
Posted on 1/17/20 at 2:19 pm to
Didn’t Steele leave and get back to the state of Alabama for some kind of retirement BS, kinda of foggy but I remember something like that
Posted by SlidellCajun
Slidell la
Member since May 2019
15699 posts
Posted on 1/17/20 at 2:25 pm to
Yeah, I guess it would be considered lateral for Grantham.

Another name that I think is definitely an upward move is Bob Shoop from MS state.
Posted by Bjricha85
Louisiana
Member since Jan 2020
283 posts
Posted on 1/17/20 at 2:26 pm to
IMO you need several years in the NFL to get your guys and establish a really good to great defense. So I don’t think we should judge K. Richard on his Dallas stint. I don’t disagree with your choices either though.
This post was edited on 1/17/20 at 2:29 pm
Posted by Bjricha85
Louisiana
Member since Jan 2020
283 posts
Posted on 1/17/20 at 2:34 pm to
I HATE the Cowboys, but I would be a fan of the Richard hire! Like his name too. Although I doubt he pronounces it like mine LOL. All jokes aside, he seems like a very solid hire to say the least.
Posted by RazzleDazzle
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2018
1411 posts
Posted on 1/17/20 at 2:40 pm to
Would be a great hire
Posted by SlidellCajun
Slidell la
Member since May 2019
15699 posts
Posted on 1/17/20 at 2:51 pm to
the following were finalists for the Broyles award this past year on defense;

Jeff Hafley, Ohio State co-defensive coordinator/secondary coach
Dan Lanning, Georgia defensive coordinator
Morgan Scalley, Utah defensive coordinator/safeties coach
Phil Snow, Baylor defensive coordinator

With the exception of Dan Lanning, All would be making upward moves to come here and all four are well respected. It should be noted that Aranda was at Utah at one time. Note Phil Snow at Baylor. Not sure Aranda will want to keep him around.

and just fwiw
here are Aranda's number while at LSU

Total Defense Pass defense rush defense
2016 -5th 14th 10th
2017-12th 21st 24th
2018 -30th 44th 38th
2019 -32nd 57th 24th

are we really losing anything here?
This post was edited on 1/17/20 at 2:57 pm
Posted by deaux
Member since Oct 2018
20267 posts
Posted on 1/17/20 at 2:52 pm to
I’m pretty sure Snow is going to Carolina with Rhule

Aranda was also at Utah State, not Utah
This post was edited on 1/17/20 at 2:54 pm
Posted by Rolling Stoned
London
Member since Jan 2006
609 posts
Posted on 1/17/20 at 3:00 pm to
Jeff Hafley is going to be a MONSTER coach...love that guy!!

But he is the Head Coach at BC!!! lol
Posted by Rolling Stoned
London
Member since Jan 2006
609 posts
Posted on 1/17/20 at 3:04 pm to
And for those in panic mode, just stop! Ohio State doesn't NOT have a DC either.

We will get a solid coach and hopefully we can develop some linebackers Our secondary will be ELITE next year!!!
Posted by beauchristopher
Member since Jan 2008
71661 posts
Posted on 1/17/20 at 3:26 pm to
quote:

Dale, I agree with you on Grantham as a strong candidate but he would be making a lateral move as well. IMO, given our financials and stature as a program, the only coordinator who would refuse us by reason of a "lateral move" is Brent Venables. Leonhard might refuse because of his history with Wisconsin, but not because of the notion of a lateral move.


I would still go hard at the guys, save Venables.

Force them to at least double their salaries.

Wiscy DC makes sense, because I still feel like LSU gives you far more exposure to become a HC or move on to the NFL. I realize he's a Wiscy guy, but I'd still make the offer. They never thought Arana would leave.

I just really prefer a current elite guy if possible and I would at least make the runs through them all before settling on a guy who is out of work or making a step up.

Posted by Jester
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
34717 posts
Posted on 1/17/20 at 4:22 pm to
quote:

Some of the other mentions are not remotely possible since they'd be making lateral moves to come here


It's only lateral if the pay is the same.
This post was edited on 1/17/20 at 4:24 pm
Posted by Pmtiger
Member since Dec 2014
840 posts
Posted on 1/17/20 at 5:36 pm to
quote:


It's only lateral if the pay is the same


Truer words never spoken
Posted by Jthomley
Arkansas
Member since Oct 2013
380 posts
Posted on 1/17/20 at 6:26 pm to
Marcus Spears
Posted by chilge2
Member since Nov 2019
232 posts
Posted on 1/17/20 at 6:32 pm to
quote:

Total Defense Pass defense rush defense
2016 -5th 14th 10th
2017-12th 21st 24th
2018 -30th 44th 38th
2019 -32nd 57th 24th


I agree. Aranda's defenses have been really average outside of his first year. Below are rankings in the following categories:

Points Per Play
Yards Per Play
Yards Per Rush
Yards Per Pash
Takeaways
Sack Percentage

2016 - 4, 5, 8, 17, 77, 9
2017 - 26, 26, 40, 24, 82, 12
2018 - 34, 24, 51, 8, 23, 61
2019 - 27, 29, 35, 20, 42, 30
Posted by bearhc
Member since Sep 2009
5588 posts
Posted on 1/17/20 at 6:57 pm to
Tim DeRuyter!
Posted by nitwit
Member since Oct 2007
13040 posts
Posted on 1/17/20 at 7:37 pm to
I’ve considered his credentials and the arguments both ways, but I am not going to be able to approve this hire.
Posted by MGuillory
Member since Jan 2020
33 posts
Posted on 1/17/20 at 8:13 pm to
Strong,Grantham,Shoop,Bielema,Dan Lanning.
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