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re: Of all the frames, this one seems most telling...(yet some still defending the call!!!??)

Posted on 10/21/18 at 4:25 pm to
Posted by Lsuchampnj
Member since Sep 2014
437 posts
Posted on 10/21/18 at 4:25 pm to
Hands clearly at the chest area (not head) and he is intentionally Keeping his head behind his hands imv. If they spent more than 10 seconds reviewing it would be clear.

Then there is the litany of calls made on far more egregious hits by bama than this. That’s what’s most disturbing , but expected
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
164920 posts
Posted on 10/21/18 at 4:26 pm to
quote:

in excess of what a normal tackle would require

I'll take obscure undefined shite for 500 Alex
Posted by larry289
Holiday Island, AR
Member since Nov 2009
3858 posts
Posted on 10/21/18 at 4:26 pm to
Clearly broke it...would this definition include the front of shoulder pad below the neck while in the process of "checking-up" in the forceful contact and even putting an arm immediately behind to lessen and support the hittee?
Posted by larry289
Holiday Island, AR
Member since Nov 2009
3858 posts
Posted on 10/21/18 at 4:30 pm to
That happened to Burrow twice last night...no call.
Posted by Ted2010
Member since Oct 2010
38958 posts
Posted on 10/21/18 at 4:31 pm to
Helmet to helmet
Posted by mtntiger
Asheville, NC
Member since Oct 2003
28408 posts
Posted on 10/21/18 at 4:32 pm to
Great pics. Clearly shows head up, forearm to the chest. If there is any contact with head or neck area it is incidental at worst.

The most I've seen on replay is maybe a grazing touch of the facemasks.

That is not targeting.
Posted by TigerKnights
Member since Jun 2011
4404 posts
Posted on 10/21/18 at 4:34 pm to
Defenseless player .... nope

Contact to the head or neck .... nope

SEC explanation .... launched .... nope
Posted by tygerphan
Georgia
Member since Oct 2009
3579 posts
Posted on 10/21/18 at 4:38 pm to
>13k posts on an opponent’s message board. Double digit posts today alone. How sad is your life?
Posted by geauxtigahs87
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2008
26568 posts
Posted on 10/21/18 at 4:40 pm to
The chest and neck are two different body parts.

When you get a sec, ask someone to explain it to you who isn't functionally retarded.
Posted by GRTiger
On a roof eating alligator pie
Member since Dec 2008
65899 posts
Posted on 10/21/18 at 4:41 pm to
If he would have planted his helmet into the QBs neck, breaking his collarbone, he'd be playing 4 quarters in two weeks. Oh well.
Posted by taf
Kansas City, KS
Member since Dec 2003
778 posts
Posted on 10/21/18 at 4:41 pm to
By definition he was “defenseless.”
However, there was not forcible contact to head and neck. He hit his chest. Fitz’ head came forward, which lead to incidental contact between face masks.
Posted by tigerfoot
Alexandria
Member since Sep 2006
58927 posts
Posted on 10/21/18 at 4:49 pm to
No it wasn’t. There was no tackle made. It was illegal contact.
Posted by tenderfoot tigah
Red Stick
Member since Sep 2004
11212 posts
Posted on 10/21/18 at 4:49 pm to
Incidental contact is not forceable contact
Posted by Kimist
Member since Nov 2011
478 posts
Posted on 10/21/18 at 4:53 pm to
You keep saying he went in high, and that is the problem. However, if he had lowered his head, that would have been targeting. You can't have it both ways.
Posted by LongTime Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2010
2555 posts
Posted on 10/21/18 at 4:53 pm to
White actually led with his hands
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
84169 posts
Posted on 10/21/18 at 4:54 pm to
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Defenseless player...check.

Contact to the head or neck area.....check.

Yes, targeting.
Yup
Posted by Lsuchampnj
Member since Sep 2014
437 posts
Posted on 10/21/18 at 4:54 pm to
Yes Because he stopped short of Taking him all the way to the ground...actually softening the impact with his other arm.... I really didn’t expect to see anyone defending the call after seeing this. Clearly those who do are seeing what they want to see.
Posted by GetmorewithLes
UK Basketball Fan
Member since Jan 2011
20928 posts
Posted on 10/21/18 at 4:59 pm to
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Now that you admit it is targeting, you can work on changing the NCAA defenseless player definition.



Defenseless player is only a precondition for the call. He did not have forceable contact to the head or neck area which negates Targeting but not a late hit/PF/roughing the passer. If you look he hit him squarely in the chest area.
This post was edited on 10/21/18 at 5:01 pm
Posted by tigerfoot
Alexandria
Member since Sep 2006
58927 posts
Posted on 10/21/18 at 5:04 pm to
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take obscure undefined shite for 500 Alex
i agree. That is how forcible can be defined in the rule itself.
Posted by pellietigersaint
Tiger Stadium
Member since Aug 2005
19043 posts
Posted on 10/21/18 at 5:05 pm to
I think the call was bullshite but this angle is not close to being the best

Any idiot could argue that the helmets just collided off of each other

Just watch the fricking play in real time it's obvious in live action
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