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re: O could have kept winning had he wanted to

Posted on 11/29/21 at 7:23 am to
Posted by minimal
Member since Feb 2007
993 posts
Posted on 11/29/21 at 7:23 am to
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O reached the pinnacle and chose to enjoy the spoils instead of making the necessary sacrifices to stay at the top.


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It was the fact that to sustain a championship-caliber program you have to devote almost all of your time to the job. After doing just that for a while, he achieved the absolute zenith: it was never going to get better than a perfect season with a Heisman QB and the championship in Louisiana. So he decided he didn’t want to grind anymore.


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I don’t think I can really blame him.



Using your logic, he deserves a hell of a lot of blame. He took the job knowing full well the demand. Once he reached the peak and realized he didn't want to grind, he should have resigned. Especially, if his true love is LSU like he likes to say all the damn time.

Don't act like Orgeron is the victim of his own success or of some unreasonable expectations.

Posted by DemonKA3268
Parts Unknown
Member since Oct 2015
21098 posts
Posted on 11/29/21 at 8:45 am to
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Strongly disagree. It’s like they talk about in the later Rocky movies - he lost the hunger.


"You haven't been hungry since you won that belt" Rocky 3
Posted by Wardniner01
Member since Dec 2020
2537 posts
Posted on 11/29/21 at 8:59 am to
You mean yelling "GEAUX TIGERS" wasn't going to keep us winning? Lol
Posted by boscoroni
Member since Oct 2018
176 posts
Posted on 11/29/21 at 11:03 am to
Justin Wilson frowns on you.
Posted by go ta hell ole miss
Member since Jan 2007
14547 posts
Posted on 11/29/21 at 2:12 pm to
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Yeah, we all hated 2019. I can understand why O got mad that he wasn’t appreciated.


I never said fans didn’t appreciate him in 2019, but they immediately turned in 2020. He brought us the greatest season ever, lost his OC and DC and 18 NFL players the next year, played with backup QBs the last two years and had a mash unit including losing Brennan (was on same pace as Burrow when he went down), Chase, Boutte, Stingley, Ricks go down this year, and those are just the 1st/2nd rounders, while keeping us at .500 in the toughest division in college football. Fans hated him and wanted him gone. I can imagine after going through those things it was possible to develop complacency or resentment.
Posted by atltiger6487
Member since May 2011
19731 posts
Posted on 11/29/21 at 2:18 pm to
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O could have kept winning had he wanted to
nope. O got lucky with Burrow and Brady, but that only lasted one year. Once they left (and Aranda too), it was back on O to hire great coordinators and develop new talent.

And he failed miserably.
Posted by tigerpimpbot
Chairman of the Pool Board
Member since Nov 2011
68762 posts
Posted on 11/29/21 at 2:58 pm to
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he had to have a 3rd Down playcaller "like Brady and Ensminger did it".


That is some simple minded shite. Damn
Posted by Thorny
Montgomery, AL
Member since May 2008
2209 posts
Posted on 11/29/21 at 4:31 pm to
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Do any of you read ? The off the field issues with player accusations…the fact that Coach O supported Trump publicly…. BLM March …. All were contributing factors for O’s dismissal. These effected player performance as well



I'm not saying this is wrong. I'm not saying any of this didn't happen.

But, it is odd that the team really fought hard for a coach that was already fired that they didn't like him for the above reasons.

Oh, well.

GEAUX TIGERS!
Posted by Gus007
TN
Member since Jul 2018
14077 posts
Posted on 11/29/21 at 5:10 pm to
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Also roster management is piss poor.




Don't you think that is a result of his lack of dedication to football. Too many trips to Destin when he should have been thinking of his obligations.
Posted by TigerFlash
Baton Rouge, Louisiana
Member since Mar 2006
410 posts
Posted on 11/29/21 at 5:42 pm to
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5 SEC teams had a winning record in 2020


Yea but how many of those 5 teams lost what LSU did after the 2019 season in terms draft eligible juniors leaving early and coaches leaving.
Posted by Palm Beach Tiger
Orlando, Florida
Member since Jan 2007
30065 posts
Posted on 11/29/21 at 5:50 pm to
We should have beaten Auburn and Arky. And even though we lost to UCLA by more than 10……….we had no business losing that one either. Big difference between 9 and 3 and having to upset A&M to not have a season losing record.
Posted by Freauxzen
Washington
Member since Feb 2006
38406 posts
Posted on 11/29/21 at 6:04 pm to
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O could have kept winning had he wanted to


What part of his career statistics - in complete form - tell you this?
Posted by ForeverEllisHugh
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2016
16176 posts
Posted on 11/30/21 at 6:48 pm to
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"You haven't been hungry since you won that belt"


That’s the exact quote I had in mind.

He just didn’t have Mr T go after his wife or some Russian dude to kill his best friend.
Posted by Bengalnads
Da Boot
Member since Nov 2021
464 posts
Posted on 11/30/21 at 6:54 pm to
Shrimp boats and hoes now
Posted by logansrun
Amite
Member since Dec 2015
2006 posts
Posted on 11/30/21 at 6:58 pm to
There was a quote from someone in the program that summed it up nicely. "O got the Natty, a divorce and a big payday, and lost himself."
Posted by Bengalnads
Da Boot
Member since Nov 2021
464 posts
Posted on 11/30/21 at 7:02 pm to
He wasn’t lost. He was at the strip club with Star, and Destiny
Posted by bearhc
Member since Sep 2009
5647 posts
Posted on 11/30/21 at 7:03 pm to
When he ran off Aranda, he was done.
Posted by Goldrush25
San Diego, CA
Member since Oct 2012
33886 posts
Posted on 11/30/21 at 7:36 pm to
Some truth to this. The path to greatness is lonely.
Posted by Winnebago Tiger
Member since Aug 2021
152 posts
Posted on 11/30/21 at 8:03 pm to
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This post was edited on 2/4/22 at 7:30 am
Posted by ForeverEllisHugh
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2016
16176 posts
Posted on 11/30/21 at 8:16 pm to
And that’s why the more I think about it the more I love the Kelly hire.

He looks at Saban/Dabo/Urban/Jimbo, compares careers and recognizes the one thing he needs to be mentioned among them. He’s HUNGRY for that Natty.
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