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re: "Nobody Watches Women's Basketball", They Said! LSU Lady Tigers

Posted on 3/27/23 at 1:52 pm to
Posted by SaveFarris
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Posted on 3/27/23 at 1:52 pm to
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The bottom line is it’s not going away. Women’s sports are literally required by law


Posted by Mickey Goldmill
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2010
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Posted on 3/27/23 at 1:52 pm to
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You can also question if WBB is actually becoming more popular? Or is this selective reporting?



From the website you linked:

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Overall, the first and second rounds of the tournament have averaged 398,000 viewers per game, up 28% from last year.
Posted by LSBoosie
Member since Jun 2020
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Posted on 3/27/23 at 1:56 pm to
I mean I'm glad LSU has a successful women's basketball team. LSU's athletic program is in a financial spot where they can afford to spend 2 million dollars a year on a women's basketball coach, thanks to football. With all of that being said, I'd bet the women's basketball program is still going to lose millions of dollars this year. For comparison, last year ticket sales grew by $842,526 and contributions grew by $551,336. The program still lost $6.55 million
Posted by TigerOnTheMountain
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Posted on 3/27/23 at 2:13 pm to
“That’s hot.”

- Lester Earl
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
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Posted on 3/27/23 at 2:21 pm to
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For comparison, last year ticket sales grew by $842,526 and contributions grew by $551,336.


Without much bigger tv revenues WBB eill never break even much less turn a profit.
Posted by Mickey Goldmill
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2010
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Posted on 3/27/23 at 2:23 pm to
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Without much bigger tv revenues WBB eill never break even much less turn a profit.



There's been talk about WBB getting their own separate TV deal like MBB has. Right now, the only sports that get their own TV deals are Football and MBB. If it were to happen, it would be a game changer for Women's basketball.
Posted by Tiger Ugly
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2008
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Posted on 3/27/23 at 2:23 pm to
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Many prefer women basketball to baseball.


It's hard some LSU fans to understand this as college baseball is such a passion here, but nationally women's hoops is better attended and gets better television ratings...and it's not even that close.
Posted by lsualum96
Los Angeles, CA
Member since Nov 2005
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Posted on 3/27/23 at 2:54 pm to
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It's hard some LSU fans to understand this as college baseball is such a passion here, but nationally women's hoops is better attended and gets better television ratings...and it's not even that close.


Yea, the folks on this board are so gaga over college baseball they don't realize most people could care less about it. I'd much rather watch women's college basketball than college baseball. But what I WON'T do, is go out of my way to constantly bash LSU baseball because I think it sucks. I may feel that way, but it's LSU, and I'm an alumni so, I want ALL OF OUR TEAMS to do well. It doesn't matter what I personally think of the sport itself.

Posted by LSUSkip
Central, LA
Member since Jul 2012
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Posted on 3/27/23 at 3:00 pm to
I've been watching this team all year. When I can't watch, I'm listening on the radio. I hadn't watched or listened to LSU wbb in about a decade before last season, so the money I'm not paying (unless I go to games, which I'm sure I'll do in the next few years) is worth it to me.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 3/27/23 at 3:00 pm to
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There's been talk about WBB getting their own separate TV deal like MBB has. Right now, the only sports that get their own TV deals are Football and MBB. If it were to happen, it would be a game changer for Women's basketball.




I just don't see how that makes economic sense. The women don't average 700k viewers a game, and the men are over 9 million.

What does the women's game bring to a TV deal?
Posted by chimesstreet
Bucks County, PA
Member since Jan 2008
1811 posts
Posted on 3/27/23 at 3:08 pm to
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Is it worth the extra millions we are losing?


What are the cost/income numbers for LSU's women's basketball program?
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
57051 posts
Posted on 3/27/23 at 3:10 pm to
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"Nobody Watches Women's Basketball", They Said!


"They" was right.
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And, unless you live in a hole, you've got to be blind to not see all the attention on television and social media this women's basketball program is receiving for LSU, not to mention how they've rallied the community and state around this program and university. I say Mulkey has been worth EVERY PENNEY and in fact, should receive a contract extension raising her yearly pay to 3 MILLION / YEAR!

I can't wait to hear some of the morons on The Rant from two years ago, try to STILL justify their hate for our Lady Tigers program.


You are trying too hard.
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 3/27/23 at 3:12 pm to
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If it were to happen, it would be a game changer for Women's basketball.


Could we finally get rid of Title IX then?
Posted by LSUPERMAN
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2007
2969 posts
Posted on 3/27/23 at 3:21 pm to
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There's been talk about WBB getting their own separate TV deal like MBB has. Right now, the only sports that get their own TV deals are Football and MBB. If it were to happen, it would be a game changer for Women's basketball.


This doesn't make sense. Are you saying if they had their own tv deal, people would watch? I don't care how much they get, their product is inferior to men. Pumping more money into is not going to get people to watch.
This post was edited on 3/27/23 at 3:21 pm
Posted by saint tiger225
San Diego
Member since Jan 2011
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Posted on 3/27/23 at 3:24 pm to
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People may be watching, but if last night was any indication, it’s hard to watch.
It's like driving by a bad wreck.
Posted by Tiger Ugly
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2008
17896 posts
Posted on 3/27/23 at 3:26 pm to
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but it's LSU, and I'm an alumni so, I want ALL OF OUR TEAMS to do well. It doesn't matter what I personally think of the sport itself.


I could not agree more.
Posted by nobigdeal69
baton rouge
Member since Nov 2009
2262 posts
Posted on 3/27/23 at 3:32 pm to
Even Mulkey said she would turn off the game if she was at home watching.

I was only watching because of the Cavinder twins, but that was a funny soundbite.
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
41905 posts
Posted on 3/27/23 at 3:41 pm to
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There's been talk about WBB getting their own separate TV deal like MBB has


Mickey, right now as the host the ncaa does negotiate with the networks for their tournaments separately. The MBB tourney brings in what a billion dollars. The WBB tourney doesn’t bring in enough money to pay much more than expenses. Little if any goes to the WBB participants while the men get millions depending on how far they advance.

As for reg season games the sec negotiates for everyone. They don’t bring in any revenue for the schools. It’s more about publicity in hopes one day it could catch on.
Posted by Gabe Rippen
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2016
597 posts
Posted on 3/27/23 at 3:56 pm to
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I was so into that game last night, that I spent half the 4th quarter reading a thread on the OT
i was similarly distracted during the game, but the point remains: the game was still on my tv. that’s all networks care about and the main metric used to sell ads which means more $
Posted by Mickey Goldmill
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2010
26370 posts
Posted on 3/27/23 at 4:04 pm to
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Mickey, right now as the host the ncaa does negotiate with the networks for their tournaments separately. The MBB tourney brings in what a billion dollars. The WBB tourney doesn’t bring in enough money to pay much more than expenses. Little if any goes to the WBB participants while the men get millions depending on how far they advance.



The WBB tournament is grouped in with all other NCAA championships. They are trying to see if it is viable to have a totally separate contract just for WBB like they have for MBB.

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The women’s title game will be broadcast on ABC — the first appearance on network television since 1995. Women’s basketball is part of a current contract that bundles all NCAA championships under one deal except for men’s basketball and football.

The NCAA is expected to decide by the fall if the women’s tournament will become a separate entity after hiring Endeavor, a consulting firm, to determine how to take championships to market.


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TV ratings have been trending up over the last two years. This year’s regular season was the most viewed on ESPN networks in eight years and was up 11% from last season. That came on the heels of last season’s title game between South Carolina and UConn that averaged 4.85 million viewers — the most for a women’s championship game since 2004. The first round had a 27% ratings increase from last year.

Attendance at the NCAA Tournament has continued to rise the past five seasons, growing by 60% in the first two rounds from an average of 4,464 in 2016 to 7,240 this year. This season had the highest attendance ever for the first two rounds.


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Now the NCAA hopes that growth is reflected in increased television revenue.

ESPN pays $34 million per year for the championships package, which it agreed to in 2011, including women’s basketball. But the law firm the NCAA hired to investigate equity issues in 2021 said in its report that estimated women’s basketball annual broadcast rights would be worth $81 million to $112 million.

The NCAA said the 2019 women’s tournament lost $2.8 million and those losses have multiplied the last two years since the the sports governing body increased spending after disparities between the men’s and women’s tourneys were pointed out.

If the NCAA can get close to the numbers projected in the 2021 report, it might be able to offer revenue shares — known as financial units — to women’s teams in the tournament in a structure similar to what the men receive from their March Madness tournament.

Men’s teams earn a slice of the money pie for their conference for every game they play excluding the championship. Each unit is paid by the NCAA over a six-year cycle. This year the NCAA will dole out $170 million to conferences from the men’s tournament.


https://www.pressherald.com/2023/03/23/ncaa-womens-basketball-women-hope-sweet-16-next-step-to-own-march-madness-tv-deal
This post was edited on 3/27/23 at 4:06 pm
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