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No, we don't need left-handed pitchers as long as we have the best RHP's.

Posted on 6/19/19 at 11:41 am
Posted by TNTigerman
James Island
Member since Sep 2012
10453 posts
Posted on 6/19/19 at 11:41 am
What a stupid statement, I don't care if it did come from the greatest LSU baseball coach of all time. He's not the coach anymore.

Besides situational pitching in the latter innings or facing a lineup of left-handed hitters, just take a look at Louisville LHP's over the past couple of days. Auburn can barely touch those guys.
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
126854 posts
Posted on 6/19/19 at 11:42 am to
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Auburn can barely touch those guys.
You realize LSU beat Auburn 3 out of 4 games this past season, right?
Posted by ProjectP2294
South St. Louis city
Member since May 2007
69980 posts
Posted on 6/19/19 at 11:43 am to
At this point with all the bitching and complaining and needless new threads about the same shite over and over again I hope we never recruit another fricking left handed pitcher.
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
126854 posts
Posted on 6/19/19 at 11:45 am to
Posted by Howyouluhdat
On Fleek St
Member since Jan 2015
7311 posts
Posted on 6/19/19 at 11:51 am to
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I don't care if it did come from the greatest LSU baseball coach of all time



This is why nobody cares that you care
Posted by Cptx
Member since Oct 2016
17 posts
Posted on 6/19/19 at 12:02 pm to
Fla St just lost to a lt hander. We might have done better if we’d had one.
Posted by The Ostrich
Member since May 2009
2540 posts
Posted on 6/19/19 at 12:08 pm to
Not having left handed pitchers hurts you both ways. We had a lineup with a ton of left handed hitters who did not see left handed pitching all fall.
Posted by upgrade
Member since Jul 2011
12958 posts
Posted on 6/19/19 at 12:08 pm to
Have they only lost to left handers this year?
Posted by LSUJML
BR
Member since May 2008
45045 posts
Posted on 6/19/19 at 12:30 pm to
quote:

At this point with all the bitching and complaining and needless new threads about the same shite over and over again I hope we never recruit another fricking left handed pitcher.


Posted by Adam4848
LA
Member since Apr 2006
18919 posts
Posted on 6/19/19 at 12:39 pm to
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take a look at Louisville LHP's over the past couple of days.


This just in...teams in the college world series have good pitching.
Posted by LongTime Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2010
2457 posts
Posted on 6/19/19 at 12:40 pm to
Skip was defending PM but you can bet he always had more than one LHP on his staff. He utilized situational R VS L or L vs R pitching matchups regularly.
So he doesn't believe in purposely having only RHP staffs.
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
43785 posts
Posted on 6/19/19 at 12:47 pm to
You can get away with it if you have a couple of right handers who can accurately throw arm side change ups. That is not the case with LSU.
Posted by ccomeaux
LA
Member since Jan 2010
8184 posts
Posted on 6/19/19 at 2:09 pm to
the problem with his statement is that we can't get the best righties. yeah, anyone could blow through NCAA baseball with 3 first round RHs but that's not going to happen.
We can blow through some good RH arms though.
Posted by atltiger6487
Member since May 2011
18125 posts
Posted on 6/19/19 at 2:20 pm to
I know the lefty/right thing is conventional wisdom - but I’d love instead to see hard data showing opponent batting average against righties vs lefties.

No feelings, just hard data.

Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
126854 posts
Posted on 6/19/19 at 2:26 pm to
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I’d love instead to see hard data showing opponent batting average against righties vs lefties.
This past season LSU batted .282 against right-handed pitchers and only .255 versus left-handed pitchers.

Overall, SEC batters hit .280 against right-handed pitchers and .266 against left-handed pitchers.

Page 16 of the .pdf
Posted by atltiger6487
Member since May 2011
18125 posts
Posted on 6/19/19 at 2:40 pm to
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This past season LSU batted .282 against right-handed pitchers and only .255 versus left-handed pitchers.

Overall, SEC batters hit .280 against right-handed pitchers and .266 against left-handed pitchers.
there's a difference there, but is that really meaningful? That's only a 5.3% difference in opponents' average against our pitchers (less than 2 more hits per 100 at-bats).

Yes, any advantage is important, but this seems marginal to me. Sure, all things being equal, use the pitcher that batters have less success against, but all things aren't equal.

This LHP vs. RHP gets too much importance placed on it, and I've believed this for many, many years.
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
126854 posts
Posted on 6/19/19 at 2:53 pm to
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only a 5.3% difference in opponents' average against our pitchers (less than 2 more hits per 100 at-bats).
I admit I only made a B in my calculus class at LSU but wouldn't a 5% difference mean a difference of 5 hits per 100 at bats??
Posted by atltiger6487
Member since May 2011
18125 posts
Posted on 6/19/19 at 3:16 pm to
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I admit I only made a B in my calculus class at LSU but wouldn't a 5% difference mean a difference of 5 hits per 100 at bats??
no, it's a 5% difference between those two numbers. I simply divided .280 by .266 to get a 5.3% difference.

It also works out to 28 hits per 100 ABs, vs. 26.6 hits per 100 ABs. The difference between 28 and 26.6 is 5.3%.

And man do I have nightmares about calculus at LSU. My entire freshman year, I had calculus at 7:30 am Mon-Fri. Then another calculus the next year. Engineering major - brutal.
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
35823 posts
Posted on 6/19/19 at 3:20 pm to
What is the SEC batting average of leftie hitters v leftie pitchers and rightie hitters v rightie pitchers.

The answer to that question will help define the value of situational pitching.
Posted by atltiger6487
Member since May 2011
18125 posts
Posted on 6/19/19 at 3:31 pm to
quote:

What is the SEC batting average of leftie hitters v leftie pitchers and rightie hitters v rightie pitchers.

The answer to that question will help define the value of situational pitching.
yes, agreed. These are types of numbers I'm looking for.

In fact, I'm very surprised that TV networks don't put these stats on the screen for each individual batter, particularly late in games when relief pitchers are brought in, sometimes based on specific leftie/rightie matchup.

Again, the leftie/rightie thing is conventional wisdom, but I wonder if it's that way just because it's always been that way --- regardless of hard data.
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