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re: NO way a jury convicts JJ on these charges
Posted on 8/27/11 at 11:22 am to RogerTheShrubber
Posted on 8/27/11 at 11:22 am to RogerTheShrubber
It's worth noting, or perhaps it isn't, that of Lowery and Jordan Jefferson, Jefferson's not the one with a record.
Bar has video of Lowery thrown out of the bar harrasing someone, doesn't show any players following him out or gathering together in the bar to conspire to attack him. Lowery was pumped for a fight, he would have fought anyone in his way.
Jefferson was at the time on the LSU Football team, Lowery appears to have mislead his marine status, if he did indeed say he was home on leave.
BRPD said early in the investigation that the bar did not have video or did any of the businesses near by or for that matter they implied there was no video of the scene. All of a sudde video outside appears and they still have not asked for the video inside the bar.
Based on the current evidence Grand Jury will throw this out based on not enough to support the accused and his witnesses testimony.
Plus once the cell phone records are gotten for Lowery and his group it is all over. The fat lady will sing
Bar has video of Lowery thrown out of the bar harrasing someone, doesn't show any players following him out or gathering together in the bar to conspire to attack him. Lowery was pumped for a fight, he would have fought anyone in his way.
Jefferson was at the time on the LSU Football team, Lowery appears to have mislead his marine status, if he did indeed say he was home on leave.
BRPD said early in the investigation that the bar did not have video or did any of the businesses near by or for that matter they implied there was no video of the scene. All of a sudde video outside appears and they still have not asked for the video inside the bar.
Based on the current evidence Grand Jury will throw this out based on not enough to support the accused and his witnesses testimony.
Plus once the cell phone records are gotten for Lowery and his group it is all over. The fat lady will sing
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Posted on 8/27/11 at 11:24 am to double d
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If the DNA on his shoes matches the person who was kicked, he's toast.
In my best Lee Corso voice, "Not so fast my friend!"
He could have stepped in blood at the scene! Blood on shoe is not 100% proof he kicked said person!
No jury will convict him on these bs charges.
This post was edited on 8/27/11 at 11:25 am
Posted on 8/27/11 at 11:31 am to Paulu
The only question to be answered under the charge is was he kicked in the face. A none biased jury could easily convict both. They could also not convict. My personal belief is that the final outcome will be in civil court and JJ & Jonns loose. Sorry, actions have consequences.
Posted on 8/27/11 at 11:35 am to Paulu
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Too much contradiction in testimony
too much purple and gold in the jury box and too much green flowing to the right folks.
Posted on 8/27/11 at 11:37 am to CamdenTiger
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Which make you wonder why the Police would go ahead and try to ruin someone's life.
When are people going to get it in their heads that this is not the fault of the police.First, the police did not violate curfew or tradition(if that is the excuse you want to use),get in a fight at Shady's Bar or get charged with second degree battery.The players involved have no one to blame but themselves.It was their choices that have placed them in the situation of possibly facing some serious charges.The players who stayed in their apartments and followed the rules are not in trouble with law enforcement.Quit trying to find an escapegoat.Again, it was the actions of the individuals in this incident that have put them in a position to ruin their lives.Hopefully, it can all work out and their lives will not be ruined.People have to be wise and give thought to their choices because choices have consequences.Lay off of the police and put the blame where it rightly lies.
Posted on 8/27/11 at 11:38 am to Tigertoon
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In Baton Rouge Loseranna,think again .Yeah that's what I said,that what they call it up here,and I am done defending Louisiana. The police dept would have
found away to allow certain people to finish this year out.And Josh he'll be playing this year
Appears you "lost" a passing grade in English class.
Takes a man with some gall to talk shite about another state, when he lives in a shite hole of shite holes.
Posted on 8/27/11 at 11:43 am to NOLAtoChiTwn
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Yeah that's what I said,that what they call it up here,and I am done defending Louisiana. The police dept would have
found away to allow certain people to finish this year out.And Josh he'll be playing this year
Do you realize how illiterate the above 'statement' makes you appear to be? If you're younger than 7 years old, I understand......
Posted on 8/27/11 at 11:44 am to RealityTiger
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If convicted of a felony, he can't get a TWIC card. If he doesn't make it to/in the NFL, I can almost assure you he would most likely move back home to Destrehan and work for Shell Norco. No TWIC card, that plan goes out the window. And with as much unemployment as there is right now, the selection process is very in depth. A lot of jobs I applied for did background checks and when I interviewed, almost every single one of them asked if I had any felonies.
hahahahahahahahaha
this is an instant classic!!!
Posted on 8/27/11 at 11:45 am to OldSarge38
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The only question to be answered under the charge is was he kicked in the face
Thats easy. It was a bar/street fight and the face was open for a kick.
Seems pretty standard and simple to me...
This post was edited on 8/27/11 at 11:48 am
Posted on 8/27/11 at 11:53 am to CantonTiger128
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JJ has been a model citizen. The Marine has been far from it.
I don't know why people care so much about the Marine (Lowery) that got beat up.
The real issue here, to me, is the truck driver that got beat up.
Posted on 8/27/11 at 12:07 pm to Ray Ray Rodman
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Thats easy. It was a bar/street fight and the face was open for a kick.
Seems pretty standard and simple to me...
Will it be this simple if next time it's LSU's starting QB on the end of that kick and he misses half the season?
This post was edited on 8/27/11 at 12:10 pm
Posted on 8/27/11 at 12:09 pm to bree
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It's worth noting, or perhaps it isn't, that of Lowery and Jordan Jefferson, Jefferson's not the one with a record.
It's not really worth noting, but thanks for doing int anyway and helping to fuel the feeble minded in their attempts to irrationalize this.
Posted on 8/27/11 at 12:10 pm to double d
Hmm - why? could it possibly have gotten there because JJ touched him and then took his shoes off using his hands? Or could it have gotten on his shoes because the guy fell into JJ? Or could it have gotten on his shoes when the guy hit the ground and JJ walked in the same area leaving?
Posted on 8/27/11 at 12:15 pm to Fissionaccomplished
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JJ has been a model citizen. The Marine has been far from it.
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I don't know why people care so much about the Marine (Lowery) that got beat up.
The real issue here, to me, is the truck driver that got beat up.
I don't know that it matters who got beat up. On the legal side, people on this board are showing some real ignorance on both sides, and trying to justify shite they know nothing about (model citizen, blah blah blah.)
No one knows if indeed JJ is a model citizen as athletes usually get some extra leeway in many situations, and no one should care about the "marine'" past.
Posted on 8/27/11 at 12:17 pm to Paulu
i think there is plenty of evidence that JJ should be guilty of his crimes. I imagine his snake oil salesmen of his new attorney will make a plea and put this to bed. this is the same attorney that represented teachers who slept with their students at Starkey academy.
Posted on 8/27/11 at 12:17 pm to Stevo
quote:That wasn't the issue. I responded to this:
in a case where witness credibility matters, this is very relevant. If this case goes to trial, the character of both will be front and center. You're way off on this one, Ice.
quote:This is irrelevant to whether or not he committed a crime. Whether there is sufficient proof to convict, or whether a jury will convict, are different questions.
High profile BS.
JJ comes from a good family and is not a thug.
Posted on 8/27/11 at 12:19 pm to sheek
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this is the same attorney that represented teachers who slept with their students at Starkey academy.
That kid's life was improved by sleeping with Jennifer, imo. Victimless crime.
Posted on 8/27/11 at 12:21 pm to Fissionaccomplished
tru datPosted on 8/27/11 at 12:28 pm to Paulu
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NO way a jury convicts JJ on these chargesToo much contradiction in testimony to get a jury to decide beyond a reasonable doubt.
Do you really think the DA will bring charges against JJ if there wasn't a strong likelihood of a conviction or at least a plea?
I know it is disappointing to LSU fans but if JJ did kick a guy in the head in the manner described, he deserves jail time.
Posted on 8/27/11 at 12:38 pm to Ryno_Kill
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Will it be this simple if next time it's LSU's starting QB on the end of that kick and he misses half the season?
Yep. Sure will. A fight is a fight.
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