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re: NO way a jury convicts JJ on these charges
Posted on 8/27/11 at 9:17 am to CamdenTiger
Posted on 8/27/11 at 9:17 am to CamdenTiger
Never will get a conviction if it ever goes to court. You people forget how stupid people are. I was on a murder trial where the defendant admitted to the shooting but his plea was self defense of another. There was one stupid woman on the jury that didn't even think he was the shooter!!!!
Contradictory testimony in this case will raise a question. Then throw in that the supposed victim is stalking his girlfriend, gets thrown out of the bar twice, now has a restraining order against him, broke into here home and wouldn't leave, has a record and started the fight. Yeah I think simple battery is the absolute worst that JJ will get.
Contradictory testimony in this case will raise a question. Then throw in that the supposed victim is stalking his girlfriend, gets thrown out of the bar twice, now has a restraining order against him, broke into here home and wouldn't leave, has a record and started the fight. Yeah I think simple battery is the absolute worst that JJ will get.
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Posted on 8/27/11 at 9:21 am to NOLAtoChiTwn
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In Baton Rouge Loseranna,think again .Yeah that's what I said,that what they call it up here,and I am done defending Louisiana. The police dept would have
found away to allow certain people to finish this year out.And Josh he'll be playing this year
Appears you "lost" a passing grade in English class.
Posted on 8/27/11 at 9:25 am to Tigertoon
they said it was because he lost consciousness in the warrant; would they have to prove that?
Posted on 8/27/11 at 9:25 am to CamdenTiger
How blind are all you . He is a Sr. he broke curfew. He kicked a guy in the head. He should of waled away. HE IS ANOTHER MIKE VICK IN TRAINING.
Posted on 8/27/11 at 9:30 am to tigetbait4u
Laughing at how folks are assuming that all evidence has been released.
Posted on 8/27/11 at 9:36 am to FullBloodedTiger
quote:I hear you, and agree totally.
I've been in fights before where I was so angry that I wanted to tear someone to pieces, but if I knocked them out . . .
However, there is pretty strong indication Lowery was NOT unconscious when you're presuming he was. He personally described details as to who did what at points in which he supposedly was out.
Posted on 8/27/11 at 9:37 am to CarrolltonTiger
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I don't know what the evidence will reveal, but if the ignorance and prejudice in this forum is a reflection of the jury pool, I'd agree he has no chance of being convicted.
I wish I could find the clip from the movie "Mystery, Alaska" where the jury not only acquits the town grocer (who's also their star hockey forward) of shooting a rep from a big box chain in the foot, but also very proudly awards the grocer $42,000 in damages from the big box chain...something, of course, which was not within their purview to do.
Posted on 8/27/11 at 9:37 am to I Love Bama
I hope he is out one game and then comes back. Miles should not kick him off the team.
Miles didn't have much choice on this matter...this is something he had to do...not that he wanted to do...
Miles didn't have much choice on this matter...this is something he had to do...not that he wanted to do...
Posted on 8/27/11 at 9:38 am to tigetbait4u
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He should of waled away.
It would appear he did.
Posted on 8/27/11 at 9:39 am to guttata
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Who, besides the employees of the bar, is contradicting that JJ kicked a guy in the head
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Who beside Lowery and his female friend say it was Jefferson? Seriously...do we have anyone else? We must right..since they would not arrest based on those idiots testimony...would they?
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Who, besides the employees of the bar, is contradicting that JJ kicked a guy in the head
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Who beside Lowery and his female friend say it was Jefferson? Seriously...do we have anyone else? We must right..since they would not arrest based on those idiots testimony...would they?
Posted on 8/27/11 at 9:40 am to Paulu
They will offer a please to a lessor charge because the DA wont be able to get a jury to convict. JJ will be back before season is over.
Posted on 8/27/11 at 9:42 am to drexyl
quote:Yes, the state must prove every element of a crime beyond a reasonable doubt. For second-degree battery, serious injuries are one of the elements of the offense.
they said it was because he lost consciousness in the warrant; would they have to prove that?
It appears that the state merely has Lowery's testimony on him going unconscious. The jury can accept or reject that testimony as being credible.
Posted on 8/27/11 at 9:44 am to bigpapamac
Well, that's just, like, your opinion man
Posted on 8/27/11 at 9:44 am to Ray Ray Rodman
Press just released new evidence. Lowery walks in his sleep. Confirmed. That explains how he is holding himself up on all fours and then gets up moments later and staggers off. He was walking while asleep. JJ is screwed.
Posted on 8/27/11 at 9:45 am to tigetbait4u
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he broke curfew.
As did at least 40 others. They have been doing it for over 30 years.
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He kicked a guy in the head
Pure conjecture right now. Would love to see YOUR proof that he did. Right now, there is only probable cause. MEANING: A statement from the victim and a statement from a witness.
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HE IS ANOTHER MIKE VICK IN TRAINING
Just stop.
Posted on 8/27/11 at 9:46 am to NC_Tigah
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I've been in fights before where I was so angry that I wanted to tear someone to pieces, but if I knocked them out . . .
I hear you, and agree totally.
However, there is pretty strong indication Lowery was NOT unconscious when you're presuming he was. He personally described details as to who did what at points in which he supposedly was out.
You're right. I shouldn't make the assumption that he was out. However, its essentially moot, as it has been said that he was no longer fighting and was lying there not defending himself. If a guy is on the ground, I would never kick him in the head. In fact, that would never even enter the minds of most people I know. Its dishonorable, thuggish, just inherently wrong, and says alot about anyone who would even consider it, much less go through with it, especially over nothing more than a stupid bar fight.
Posted on 8/27/11 at 9:50 am to chipd
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Who beside Lowery and his female friend say it was Jefferson? Seriously...do we have anyone else? We must right..since they would not arrest based on those idiots testimony...would they?
Sure ... there were other LSU players there weren't there? Seems like they'd have talked (yeah I know snitches) if Miles asked them straight up.
Which leads me to the point that if there were other LSU players THERE and saw what happened and just watched, well then that makes my stomach turn even more.
Posted on 8/27/11 at 9:50 am to Paulu
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Cleo Fields got off bribery charges when they had video of his taking cash.
I don't recall Fields being prosecuted for that, BBTAIM, you prove my point, Fields would not be convicted in Louisiana because of ignorance and prejudice not a lack of evidence. A jury pool would probably not convict in spite of any evidence presented.
Posted on 8/27/11 at 9:51 am to Ray Ray Rodman
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They will offer a please to a lessor charge because the DA wont be able to get a jury to convict.
JJ won't plead to a lesser charge. That was settled yesterday when JJ hired his new attorney. There is no way in hell Lewis is going to let his client plead to a lesser charge. I am telling you Unglesby will fight thing till the bitter end.
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JJ will be back before season is over.
Seriously doubt it. Hillar would have to drop charges for both JJ's to get back on the field.
Posted on 8/27/11 at 9:56 am to Ice Cold
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NO way a jury convicts JJ on these charges
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JJ comes from a good family and is not a thug.
Irrelevant.
Not irrelevant. JJ has been a model citizen. The Marine has been far from it. THAT DOES MATTER....especially when there are such contradicting stories. I wanted J Lee to play, I think he gives LSU the best chance to win a championship....but JJ is getting the screws on this one so that the BRPD can make it appear they are all over this one.....it's ridiculous.
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