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re: NO way a jury convicts JJ on these charges

Posted on 8/27/11 at 2:57 pm to
Posted by Honkus
Member since Aug 2005
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Posted on 8/27/11 at 2:57 pm to
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that is not just a bar fight at that point


Agreed... something most of the idiots w/ P&G blinders don't get. 3 cracked vertebrae make it a lil more serious than your avg bar fight...
This post was edited on 8/27/11 at 3:03 pm
Posted by Paulu
Mandeville
Member since Dec 2006
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Posted on 8/27/11 at 3:01 pm to
NO way are they getting the jury to all agree beyond a reasonable doubt that JJ is guilty.
You put 3 guys (no quiche eaters) on that jury that have the following thought process: If some a-hole attacks me, I am going to kick his arse til he is done and gone = HUNG JURY.
Seen it happen several times
Posted by Honkus
Member since Aug 2005
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Posted on 8/27/11 at 3:05 pm to
no way a grand jury even brings the felony charge to trial IMO
Posted by aglandry
lafayette
Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 8/27/11 at 3:09 pm to
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Too much contradiction in testimony to get a jury to decide beyond a reasonable doubt.



This case will not be based on a reasonable doubt but on the preponderance of the evidence presented.
Posted by aglandry
lafayette
Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 8/27/11 at 3:11 pm to
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no way a grand jury even brings the felony charge to trial IMO




I wouldn't go betting my life on that.If this case were to go to trial,I don't think the jury will convict on second degree if simple battery is one of their options.Hope JJ can plea to lesser charge now and be placed in first offender program and Miles would reinstate him during the season.
This post was edited on 8/27/11 at 3:19 pm
Posted by BamaScoop
Panama City Beach, Florida
Member since May 2007
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Posted on 8/27/11 at 3:16 pm to
Why is this thread anchored?
Posted by Paulu
Mandeville
Member since Dec 2006
4440 posts
Posted on 8/27/11 at 3:16 pm to
Burden of Proof:

Criminal trails are beyond a reasonable doubt.

Civil trials are preponderance of evidence.

Law School 101
Posted by crimsonsaint
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 8/27/11 at 3:16 pm to
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You put 3 guys (no quiche eaters) on that jury that have the following thought process: If some a-hole attacks me, I am going to kick his arse til he is done and gone = HUNG JURY.


That's a nice theory and all, but who said JJ was attacked? According to Shady's employees, he was standing by himself at one point while the fighting was in progress.
Posted by Paulu
Mandeville
Member since Dec 2006
4440 posts
Posted on 8/27/11 at 3:18 pm to
So he just decides to walk over, kick the head like a soccer ball and leave?

Hmmm - sounds likely too.

Posted by crimsonsaint
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 8/27/11 at 3:30 pm to
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So he just decides to walk over, kick the head like a soccer ball and leave?


He was arrested for it correct?
Posted by SLC
Hiwasse, AR
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 8/27/11 at 3:40 pm to
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no way a grand jury even brings the felony charge to trial IMO


A DA usually gets a Grand Jury to decide whichever way he wants it too.
Posted by SLC
Hiwasse, AR
Member since Oct 2007
15522 posts
Posted on 8/27/11 at 3:42 pm to
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Why is this thread anchored?


B/c it is full of crap.
Posted by Paulu
Mandeville
Member since Dec 2006
4440 posts
Posted on 8/27/11 at 4:49 pm to
U Think?

Considering the DA is the only side that can present evidence ...
Posted by aglandry
lafayette
Member since Oct 2008
2574 posts
Posted on 8/27/11 at 8:35 pm to
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Criminal trails are beyond a reasonable doubt


That is correct(felony).If the charge of simple battery is one of the options the judge will instruct the jury as was done in the Casey Anthony trial that the charge of simple battery is based on a preponderence of the evidence as it is a misdemeanor.Casey Anthony was convicted on 4 misdemeanor charges.She is appealing the 4 misdemeanor charges according to her lawyer.
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