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re: NO way a jury convicts JJ on these charges
Posted on 8/27/11 at 2:57 pm to TheDoc
Posted on 8/27/11 at 2:57 pm to TheDoc
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that is not just a bar fight at that point
Agreed... something most of the idiots w/ P&G blinders don't get. 3 cracked vertebrae make it a lil more serious than your avg bar fight...
This post was edited on 8/27/11 at 3:03 pm
Posted on 8/27/11 at 3:01 pm to crimsonsaint
NO way are they getting the jury to all agree beyond a reasonable doubt that JJ is guilty.
You put 3 guys (no quiche eaters) on that jury that have the following thought process: If some a-hole attacks me, I am going to kick his arse til he is done and gone = HUNG JURY.
Seen it happen several times
You put 3 guys (no quiche eaters) on that jury that have the following thought process: If some a-hole attacks me, I am going to kick his arse til he is done and gone = HUNG JURY.
Seen it happen several times
Posted on 8/27/11 at 3:05 pm to Paulu
no way a grand jury even brings the felony charge to trial IMO
Posted on 8/27/11 at 3:09 pm to Paulu
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Too much contradiction in testimony to get a jury to decide beyond a reasonable doubt.
This case will not be based on a reasonable doubt but on the preponderance of the evidence presented.
Posted on 8/27/11 at 3:11 pm to Honkus
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no way a grand jury even brings the felony charge to trial IMO
I wouldn't go betting my life on that.If this case were to go to trial,I don't think the jury will convict on second degree if simple battery is one of their options.Hope JJ can plea to lesser charge now and be placed in first offender program and Miles would reinstate him during the season.
This post was edited on 8/27/11 at 3:19 pm
Posted on 8/27/11 at 3:16 pm to aglandry
Why is this thread anchored?
Posted on 8/27/11 at 3:16 pm to aglandry
Burden of Proof:
Criminal trails are beyond a reasonable doubt.
Civil trials are preponderance of evidence.
Law School 101
Criminal trails are beyond a reasonable doubt.
Civil trials are preponderance of evidence.
Law School 101
Posted on 8/27/11 at 3:16 pm to Paulu
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You put 3 guys (no quiche eaters) on that jury that have the following thought process: If some a-hole attacks me, I am going to kick his arse til he is done and gone = HUNG JURY.
That's a nice theory and all, but who said JJ was attacked? According to Shady's employees, he was standing by himself at one point while the fighting was in progress.
Posted on 8/27/11 at 3:18 pm to crimsonsaint
So he just decides to walk over, kick the head like a soccer ball and leave?
Hmmm - sounds likely too.
Hmmm - sounds likely too.
Posted on 8/27/11 at 3:30 pm to Paulu
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So he just decides to walk over, kick the head like a soccer ball and leave?
He was arrested for it correct?
Posted on 8/27/11 at 3:40 pm to Honkus
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no way a grand jury even brings the felony charge to trial IMO
A DA usually gets a Grand Jury to decide whichever way he wants it too.
Posted on 8/27/11 at 3:42 pm to BamaScoop
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Why is this thread anchored?
B/c it is full of crap.
Posted on 8/27/11 at 4:49 pm to SLC
U Think?
Considering the DA is the only side that can present evidence ...
Considering the DA is the only side that can present evidence ...
Posted on 8/27/11 at 8:35 pm to Paulu
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Criminal trails are beyond a reasonable doubt
That is correct(felony).If the charge of simple battery is one of the options the judge will instruct the jury as was done in the Casey Anthony trial that the charge of simple battery is based on a preponderence of the evidence as it is a misdemeanor.Casey Anthony was convicted on 4 misdemeanor charges.She is appealing the 4 misdemeanor charges according to her lawyer.
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