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re: New fines for "feigned injuries"
Posted on 11/1/24 at 9:00 pm to Spankum
Posted on 11/1/24 at 9:00 pm to Spankum
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I would rather see some immediate penalty on the field
I think a penalty on the field is both A) more likely to miss fake injuries and B) more likely to result in game-changing wrong calls. It’s too hard to catch in real time at field level, and we definitely don’t need more video review stoppages.
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Posted on 11/1/24 at 9:09 pm to leylee
Just make the player wait till the next possession
Posted on 11/1/24 at 9:10 pm to Tiger1988
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don’t know if I’ve ever seen an offensive player do it,
Ole Miss. Versus Kentucky. 2024.
This post was edited on 11/1/24 at 9:15 pm
Posted on 11/1/24 at 9:19 pm to Tiger1988
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It is really easier than that. If a player causes stoppage in play due to an injury, they must sit out the remainder of the series. If it is a second stoppage by the same team in the series, that player sits the rest of the 1/2.
All you have to do is hold the snap for 10-15 seconds after first downs. This will remove the incentive for defenses to pretend to be hurt.
Posted on 11/1/24 at 9:28 pm to jeffsdad
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Just make the player wait till the next possession
until your best player rolls an ankle and can go back in after getting taped.
if just has the wind knocked out of him.
those things legitimately happen and are not reason enough to miss the entire rest of a possession.
you want to stop it FAST?
have that fine come out of the coach’s pocket and go directly into the NIL fund of the opposing school.
but i’d love for there to be someone not affiliated with the conference, TV networks, or any of the schools to be an independent review board to enforce it.
maybe like some retired NFL officials or something.
Posted on 11/1/24 at 9:30 pm to moneyg
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All you have to do is hold the snap for 10-15 seconds after first downs. This will remove the incentive for defenses to pretend to be hurt.
so give the guys faking the injuries what they want without them having to fake it?
Posted on 11/1/24 at 9:57 pm to leylee
The Lane Kiffin Rule
Posted on 11/1/24 at 10:20 pm to leylee
That faint sound you hear off in the distance is every personal injury lawyer in the south warming up in the bullpen.
Posted on 11/1/24 at 10:21 pm to lostinbr
Bama connections
Posted on 11/1/24 at 10:24 pm to leylee
So the SEC is gonna rely on non medical personnel to determine fake injuries?
Posted on 11/1/24 at 10:26 pm to moneyg
quote:
All you have to do is hold the snap for 10-15 seconds after first downs. This will remove the incentive for defenses to pretend to be hurt.
Would have to change the clock rules again and stop the clock on first downs, otherwise the offense would be facing a runoff every time they move the chains.
Other than that, I wouldn’t really have a problem with holding the snap after first downs and allowing defensive substitutions. I don’t really think tempo needs to be a part of the game. It’s not like we have a lack of scoring in CFB nowadays.
Posted on 11/1/24 at 10:27 pm to leylee
Never forget the first time I saw a team do this. I’ll give y’all a hint…it was at Texas several years ago! 
This post was edited on 11/4/24 at 8:50 pm
Posted on 11/1/24 at 10:32 pm to LSUScores
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So the SEC is gonna rely on non medical personnel to determine fake injuries?
They’re going to rely on cameras that show a player looking at the sideline, seeing a signal, and immediately dropping to the ground. Or players clearly being told to go down by teammates. It’s not that hard to identify a lot of these.
I’m not sure how you would expect medical personnel to solve this in the first place. The trainers and doctors work for the team. They aren’t just gonna say “yeah, he was faking.”
Posted on 11/1/24 at 11:44 pm to lostinbr
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They’re going to rely on cameras that show a player looking at the sideline, seeing a signal, and immediately dropping to the ground. Or players clearly being told to go down by teammates. It’s not that hard to identify a lot of these.
^^^I agree. I'd really like to see something done.The problem is that the level of sophistication w/ cheating using a fake injury is very crude at this time since there's basically no punishment. We've all seen videos of a coach or another player being given an obvious "go down like you're injured" (looking at you, Ole Miss!) sign to a player and the player suddenly flops. Although this needs to be policed somehow, once there's a significant punishment attached, the fake will become more sophisticated. For example, a team will send in a 3rd string sub w/ instructions to fake an injury, thereby stopping the game. Or whoever signals in plays (seems like there are 6 guys on the sidelines doing this) will give a special sign to fake an injury, but no one's going to recognize the sign except for the team. It's just REALLY hard to catch and punish a cheater if they're bound and determined to cheat.
Posted on 11/1/24 at 11:45 pm to leylee
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"Moving forward, I will consider a feigned injury to have been determined when the National Coordinator states it is more likely than not that a feigned injury occurred, that a player attempted a feigned injury, or any other general statement from the National Coordinator establishing the probability that a feigned injury has occurred."
Pretty sure Kamala wrote that.
Posted on 11/2/24 at 5:56 am to BilbeauTBaggins
quote:What?
Coaches will gladly pay $50k for extra timeouts
Kiffin would have paid 150k by the 1st game of the year and then been suspended every game since
Posted on 11/2/24 at 6:53 am to leylee
It will be called the “Kiffin Rule”
Posted on 11/2/24 at 6:55 am to nitwit
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nitwit[/quote
][quote]The New National Coordinator will be Lane Kiffin.
Great humor, funny
Posted on 11/2/24 at 7:14 am to TigerOnThe Hill
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Although this needs to be policed somehow, once there's a significant punishment attached, the fake will become more sophisticated. For example, a team will send in a 3rd string sub w/ instructions to fake an injury, thereby stopping the game. Or whoever signals in plays (seems like there are 6 guys on the sidelines doing this) will give a special sign to fake an injury, but no one's going to recognize the sign except for the team. It's just REALLY hard to catch and punish a cheater if they're bound and determined to cheat.
Sending a random 3rd stringer to take a dive seems like a good way to get caught.
As for the rest of it, I’m honestly okay with that being the result. It’s not that guys are faking injury to stop the clock is such a big deal. It’s how obvious they are about it. If teams want to institute a pre-snap signal that says, “Joey stay on the ground after this play,” then fine.
Posted on 11/2/24 at 9:06 am to leylee
Good move.
But I was truly hoping before this change, that a team playing against Kiffin would have the entire defense fielded ALL fall down simultaneously to bring attention to it. Sorry but that's my sense of humor!
But I was truly hoping before this change, that a team playing against Kiffin would have the entire defense fielded ALL fall down simultaneously to bring attention to it. Sorry but that's my sense of humor!
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