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re: NCAA statement on the Coastal coach ejection
Posted on 6/23/25 at 8:54 am to Vacherie Saint
Posted on 6/23/25 at 8:54 am to Vacherie Saint
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rec league style meltdown over the strike zone
For calls that really weren't even bad. I saw way worse through the whole world series both for and against LSU.
Posted on 6/23/25 at 8:58 am to NOLAblonde
quote:and I would bet a few bucks that it was emphasized to both coaches prior to the game.
The thing that pissed me off the most is how many idiots were saying “it’s the 1st inning you have to give him a warning!!!!” Then both the Coastal coach and NCAA come out and say he was giving a warning and continued yapping so he got tossed and then the narrative changes how he still should not have been tossed.
I think he was trying to fire his team up and it backfired. Coastal was given a wide zone all year in their favor, graphics proved that. The CWS was more even and I’m sure he was overwhelmed. He knew his hitters were toast if the zone was liberal for us as well as him
Posted on 6/23/25 at 8:58 am to NOLAblonde
If i were a neutral observer, id prefer that the umps give him a little more leeway, a few early yaps, its the championship, it needs to be more egregious to eject someone in this big of a game. Dont think it changed the outcome at all though
Posted on 6/23/25 at 9:01 am to Chicken
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I still think he should have been given a little more rope.
Agreed. He could have easily said "coach, anything else and im gonna have to eject you from a national championship game."
That being said, he may have just gone Vitello on the ump at that point.
Posted on 6/23/25 at 9:02 am to AtlantaLSUfan
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Especially since it was the quick ejection that caused the “prolonged arguing” and cascade of ejections.
Yall much have missed some key things watching on TV. This built up for a couple minutes before he argued with the Umps. He was warned before he even walked onto the field about calling balls & strikes. Then he took the field and argued aggressively straight from the 1st step on the field. I called him getting tossed just before it happened.
The mental midget threw a temper tantrum about a known rule then expects to be given grace. The umps weren’t going to put up with his behavior on the big stage. If he wasn’t tossed then he would have been tossed within the next 3 at bats.
Posted on 6/23/25 at 9:03 am to Chicken
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I still think he should have been given a little more rope
Maybe so, but I wonder if Schnall would have recognized that he was being given a little more rope. CC's 1st base coach made that tough for the ump to provide. That's who got the first warning for arguing balls/strikes from the coach's box during the game. That's an absolute no-no and it goes along with the point that Schnall made in the press conference regarding Assistants being treated like 2nd class citizens by the home plate ump. These guys aren’t supposed to say shite to the ump.
As an assistant, if he does start arguing then the HC stands the chance of getting tossed along with the assistant. Schnall definitely discarded this rule when he said the “missed 3 calls” comment. He stood up for his assistant and that put the ump in a very bad spot.
When was the last time we saw an assistant coach in the SEC start arguing with the home plate ump from the coach's box? They run out to the coach's box, shake hands with the base ump, they give signals and coach base runners, then the run back to their dugout. They never say anything to the home plate ump.
Would JJ allow Josh Jordan to start an argument with the ump on the field, during play? We'd be shocked if to see it.
This post was edited on 6/23/25 at 11:20 am
Posted on 6/23/25 at 9:04 am to TigerLunatik
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He could have easily said "coach, anything else and im gonna have to eject you from a national championship game."
I think that's what the ump was doing when he was "shooing" him back to the dugout. He was letting him know that he'd been warned and to not come out or he would be ejected. He decided to come out anyway. Coach even admitted it was his damn ego that was the problem in the post-game conference. When he started talking about how it was another grown man shooing him, he admitted this as a pride/ego thing.
Posted on 6/23/25 at 9:07 am to FlyingTiger06
Im sure it was hard to hear out there with 25k fans, so its possible schnall didnt hear the ump, which is why he went out for clarification. And im not absolving him of blame, he did enough to warrant ejection by the rulebook, id just prefer the umps have a little more digression in big games like that
Posted on 6/23/25 at 9:09 am to NOLAblonde
I was thinking about this as I started my day.
Crazy how if Jeff Head was behind the plate (or any other ump) that may have changed whether the dude got tossed.
Do I think we win regardless? Yes (with the exception of Head screwing us), but the impact an ump has on the flow of the game and potentially the outcome is amazing.
Time to go to AI.
Crazy how if Jeff Head was behind the plate (or any other ump) that may have changed whether the dude got tossed.
Do I think we win regardless? Yes (with the exception of Head screwing us), but the impact an ump has on the flow of the game and potentially the outcome is amazing.
Time to go to AI.
Posted on 6/23/25 at 9:10 am to Chicken
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still think he should have been given a little more rope.
I'm not saying the Ump couldn't have... But honestly, his job is to call a ballgame and manage that game on that field. He is THE authority. Every coach and player knows that. This coach had already earned 1 warning extremely early in this game, and then proceeded to quickly escalate his interaction with the ump.... As the official in charge of that game, the only priority at that point is to maintain control over that game. Period. Not worry about of this is happening too soon, or in a more important game than most, or of the coach needs a hug or words of affirmation.
Regulations are in place and boundaries have to be set and kept.
I'm sorry this coach wanted to push those, it he did and received due punishment.
Posted on 6/23/25 at 9:12 am to LSUcajun77
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Then I’m sure he’ll appeal and win it.
If you listen to his press conference he made a comment along the lines of “and we can’t even appeal it because they tacked on the extended arguing, when the whole reason I was arguing was that they said I bumped the umpire.”
Basically saying that the extended arguing claim stems from being falsely accused of bumping the ump.
That said.. it seems like a BS excuse to me. He immediately got in the plate ump’s face and started screaming as soon as the ejection call was made, before the ump who tripped even got over there.
Also, he responded to a warning about arguing balls and strikes by saying “you missed three pitches.” Dude is a dumbass and was asking for everything he got. I don’t doubt that the ump was being a dick about the warning. Welcome to baseball. Doesn’t matter, you can’t respond like that. We’ve seen Jay Johnson get ejected for a whole lot less.
Posted on 6/23/25 at 9:14 am to josh336
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a little more digression
but I digress
Posted on 6/23/25 at 9:14 am to NOLAblonde
quote:I don’t see how this is relevant. What difference does it make what inning it is? The fact that he was arguing balls and strikes in the first inning makes his actions even more perplexing…it’s not like he sat thru consistently “bad” calls. Eyanson had barely broken a sweat
it’s the 1st inning you have to give him a warning!!!!
Posted on 6/23/25 at 9:14 am to NOLAblonde
Umpires are soft, more at 11.
Posted on 6/23/25 at 9:14 am to lostinbr
quote:That’s just a lie. Anyone can watch the video and see the chain of events. He was ejected and that’s when he came to the plate to get in the ump’s face, and the bump occurred during that.
If you listen to his press conference he made a comment along the lines of “and we can’t even appeal it because they tacked on the extended arguing, when the whole reason I was arguing was that they said I bumped the umpire.”
Posted on 6/23/25 at 9:16 am to LSUGrrrl
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Yall much have missed some key things watching on TV. This
I agree there was very likely a lot more going on earlier than TV and radio knew about, not to mention WHAT was actually being said.
Posted on 6/23/25 at 9:16 am to josh336
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Im sure it was hard to hear out there with 25k fans, so its possible schnall didnt hear the ump, which is why he went out for clarification.
The thing is, the coach admitted that the “you missed three pitches” comment was in response to being told the warning was for arguing balls and strikes. So regardless of whether he knew why they were warned when he first came out of the dugout, he knew the reason when he made that comment. And that’s what got him tossed.
Posted on 6/23/25 at 9:23 am to LSUmomma
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I agree there was very likely a lot more going on earlier than TV and radio knew about, not to mention WHAT was actually being said.
I was 5 rows up from their dugout. Trust me that there was more than shown.
Posted on 6/23/25 at 9:25 am to Chicken
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I didn't want any ammo for people to say that it affected the game in LSU's favor
No fricks given
Flags fly forever
Posted on 6/23/25 at 9:27 am to MOT
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That’s just a lie. Anyone can watch the video and see the chain of events. He was ejected and that’s when he came to the plate to get in the ump’s face, and the bump occurred during that.
Agreed. Schnall's whole presser segment just solidified that he's an insecure douche. "You don't shoosh another grown man."
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