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re: NCAA Outdoor Track and Field Thread: LSU Tracker - JuVaughn is a national champ!
Posted on 6/6/19 at 7:58 am to Geauxlden Eagle
Posted on 6/6/19 at 7:58 am to Geauxlden Eagle
You only get 3 failed attempts in a row regardless of height. If you miss at a height, you can move to another height but you carry your misses with you. If you go out at a height with someone else, whoever had the least amount of misses at the previous height breaks the tie and if that is the same, it's whoever had the least misses overall. Because of this, sometimes people will opt to move up in height even if they miss because they have confidence it was an accident that they missed and will otherwise clear the next height.
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Posted on 6/6/19 at 8:08 am to GhostofJackson
It just seemed like he was off yesterday.
Posted on 6/6/19 at 8:13 am to tigerbait2010
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I used to be way more critical of shaver, but the playing field simply isn’t what it used to be.
Arkansas, Oregon, and A&M have poured millions and millions into their programs. Florida has the very best coach in the country, who I doubt we could poach.
Today sucked but can’t really blame him with the injury to fluornoy
There is a difference between being a coach in a level playing field and being a poor manager of your team. Mainieri is a good coach in a level playing field and while he does have an occasional brain fart, always has his team ready to compete during championship season. Shaver is the opposite. He has good teams that crumble every year down the stretch. He has 4x the chance to win a title of any other sport LSU sponsors and still has come up with nothing.
You can mention Oregon and Arkansas, but Texas Tech, BYU and maybe Houston could all finish higher this year. You think those teams have the resources LSU has? Every year without fail Shaver has his guys drop a baton, get injured, false start, or some other hiccup. After a while it's not a level playing field, it's just poor team management.
Maybe Shaver can stick around with his Pros and help with the short sprinters as he has done a good job developing top level athletes, but the team needs someone who can come in and run the overall program better. Boo needs to be the jumps coach and they need to hire a distance coach who can go back to getting a few points in the 800/1500.
Posted on 6/6/19 at 8:16 am to TheBigHurt
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It just seemed like he was off yesterday.
The silver lining is maybe Mondo will be willing to wait another year to go pro because he wants to win the outdoor title, although with next year being an Olympic year he may not want to deal with a long scholastic season, then Europe, then Japan.
Posted on 6/6/19 at 8:44 am to GhostofJackson
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Boo needs to be the jumps coach and they need to hire a distance coach who can go back to getting a few points in the 800/1500.
Don't hold your breath. LSU hasn't had a distance guy since, who, Kosgei? And before that, Elliot in the late 80s? We've pretty much cemented ourselves as a sprints and jumps school. It's so much easier to win championships with a few guys who can do the 100m/200m/4x100 and a few who can do long jump and high jump
Posted on 6/6/19 at 8:56 am to Ingeniero
I wish we could steal georgia’s coach
Posted on 6/6/19 at 9:54 am to Ingeniero
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Don't hold your breath. LSU hasn't had a distance guy since, who, Kosgei? And before that, Elliot in the late 80s? We've pretty much cemented ourselves as a sprints and jumps school. It's so much easier to win championships with a few guys who can do the 100m/200m/4x100 and a few who can do long jump and high jump
Blair Henderson scored at Nats in 2017 and Julian Parker won SECs in 2015. Even if you just took the top 800 guy in the state and gave him books (hopefully he is getting TOPS), you should routinely be able to field a 1:49-1:50 dude (after a few years of progress). The top 800 dude on the team right now is an XC guy who did 1:52. There isn't a single 800 specialist on the team on the men's side right now except for Luke Hebert who still has his PR while wearing a St. Michael's singlet. Mid distance has always been points for LSU, but it's been a rough last couple seasons.
Posted on 6/6/19 at 10:46 am to GhostofJackson
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You only get 3 failed attempts in a row regardless of height.
Didn't know this. I thought it was 3 fails at a given height. Thanks for enlightening me.
Posted on 6/6/19 at 11:57 am to Geauxlden Eagle
Mondo looked extremely tight yesterday. Did not look fluid at all. He grimaced a lot too, which makes me think he wasn't 100 percent physically. Which fits right in with the walking wounded on the rest of the team. Let's hope Sha'Carri is 100 percent today and will make a name for herself on a national and international level.
Posted on 6/6/19 at 12:05 pm to GhostofJackson
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they need to hire a distance coach who can go back to getting a few points in the 800/1500.
You have to be able to recruit those guys and if I'm a talented middle distance HS runner, no way do I come to LSU knowing in the last 20 years, there is not a commitment and history of developing mid distance/distance talent. It can be done but you would need to probably recruit Kenyans or other foreign athletes and take scholly's from your sprinter/jumper allocation which would impact how many points you get from those events.
Posted on 6/6/19 at 12:17 pm to Zappas Stache
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You have to be able to recruit those guys
Did Cameron Cooper not come down from MI after going sub 1:50? Braxton from NV who ran 4:09 for the mile? Bove from TN who just ran 4:06 for the mile? I don't know what you mean by talented MD guys not wanting to come to LSU.
ETA: Congrats to LSU signee Davis Bove who ran 4:06 in the mile and is currently ranked 4th in the country!
This post was edited on 6/6/19 at 12:25 pm
Posted on 6/6/19 at 1:49 pm to GhostofJackson
Do you have a list of the commits LSU has lined up? Sounds like a big class at least
Posted on 6/6/19 at 2:28 pm to GhostofJackson
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Did Cameron Cooper not come down from MI after going sub 1:50?
You have a point. I guess I'm thinking more in terms of creating a core group of guys that can push each other in training. I doubt Cooper and Bove will be doing the same workouts but its great to here Bove ran 4:06!
Posted on 6/6/19 at 2:59 pm to tigerbait2010
Posted on 6/6/19 at 3:00 pm to Zappas Stache
Yeah I'm not sure they could ever get an xc group down here on that level but enough to field a few point scorers I think it could happen.
Posted on 6/6/19 at 5:22 pm to tigerbait2010
frick it, poach Carl Lewis from UofH. He isn't even their head coach. Pay him to come on over.
Posted on 6/6/19 at 8:17 pm to TheBigHurt
Updated OP. Women get 2nd in the 4x100m prelims
Posted on 6/6/19 at 8:38 pm to Ingeniero
Sha'Carri runs a wind legal 10.99 for first in the 100m prelims 
that's a different kind of talent!!
that's a different kind of talent!!Posted on 6/6/19 at 9:19 pm to Ingeniero
Farrow makes it through to finals in the 800.
Posted on 6/6/19 at 10:38 pm to GhostofJackson
Women 7/8 in their heat in the 4x400 relay. Yikes
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