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re: Naz Reid Dropping in most Mocks
Posted on 5/16/19 at 7:54 am to Disgeaux Bob
Posted on 5/16/19 at 7:54 am to Disgeaux Bob
He has till May 29th to withdraw his name from the draft. Even if he has signed with an agent during the pre-draft process, he can still retain his eligibility to return to NCAA if he has followed certain guidelines. Same goes for all the other LSU early entrants.
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May 12-14: G League Elite Camp NBA G League invitees will participate in the first half of this mini-camp before 40 top draft-eligible players who weren’t invited to the combine participate in the second half. Again, more details can be found here.
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May 15-19: NBA draft combine This five-day event, which takes place in Chicago, allows NBA teams to get a first-hand look at many of this year’s top draft-eligible players (though perhaps not a handful of 2019’s very best prospects, since potential top-five picks don’t have much to gain by participating in the combine). The combine will be particularly important for early entrants who have yet to decide whether or not to stay in the draft. The feedback they get at the combine could go a long way toward dictating whether they keep their names in the draft or return to school for another year.
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May 29 (11:59pm): NCAA early entrant withdrawal deadline College underclassmen who want to retain their NCAA eligibility will have to withdraw their names from the draft pool by May 29. NBA rules call for a later withdrawal deadline, but the NCAA has its own set of rules that say the deadline is 10 days after the combine. As such, a college underclassmen could technically wait until the first week of June to withdraw from the draft and retain his NBA draft eligibility for a future year. However, he would forfeit his amateur status in that scenario, making him ineligible to return to his NCAA squad.
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Posted on 5/16/19 at 7:59 am to Icceytiger
Idk why retention rates are so low in both basketball and football. I mean, I understand why, I just think it’s stupid. Everybody wants that big check when if they stay in school, improve their skills, and become more noticed, they’re probably going to be better off for it in the long run.
All you’ve gotta do is put off now for the future and they’re not willing to do it. Naz is a perfect example. Very athletic, long, can shoot a little, but is lacking in some departments. He comes back, works on those things, shows improvement, he does probably go in the first round and makes a roster. Instead, there’s a good chance that he flounders in the D-league or overseas and never breaks into the NBA.
All you’ve gotta do is put off now for the future and they’re not willing to do it. Naz is a perfect example. Very athletic, long, can shoot a little, but is lacking in some departments. He comes back, works on those things, shows improvement, he does probably go in the first round and makes a roster. Instead, there’s a good chance that he flounders in the D-league or overseas and never breaks into the NBA.
Posted on 5/16/19 at 8:04 am to lowhound
I stand corrected, Naz and Tremont are gone pecans. They gave up their eligibility because they didn't request an evaluation from the NBA, which is dumb because there are an unlimited number of evaluation requests per team, unlike in football which is only allowed 5. This article breaks it all down. You might have to open in up incognito because its the Advocate.
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Posted on 5/16/19 at 8:07 am to TigerFanInSouthland
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Idk why retention rates are so low in both basketball and football. I mean, I understand why, I just think it’s stupid. Everybody wants that big check when if they stay in school, improve their skills, and become more noticed, they’re probably going to be better off for it in the long run.
All you’ve gotta do is put off now for the future and they’re not willing to do it. Naz is a perfect example. Very athletic, long, can shoot a little, but is lacking in some departments. He comes back, works on those things, shows improvement, he does probably go in the first round and makes a roster. Instead, there’s a good chance that he flounders in the D-league or overseas and never breaks into the NBA.
I mean with the new rules, why wouldn't you want to put your name in the draft. You can hire an agent and have your travel and lodging expenses paid for to go to the combine and team workouts and still withdraw and play college. Seems like a pretty good thing to do after finals are over and you get good feedback from the pro scouts so you know what to work on with your game. Seems like a no-brainer for the players, sucks for college coaches that have to sign a recruiting class no knowing which players are coming back for next season.
Posted on 5/16/19 at 8:08 am to lowhound
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I stand corrected, Naz and Tremont are gone pecans. They gave up their eligibility because they didn't request an evaluation from the NBA, which is dumb because there are an unlimited number of evaluation requests per team, unlike in football which is only allowed 5. This article breaks it all down. You might have to open in up incognito because its the Advocate.
It's not "Dumb" because they had no intention of returning to school regardless of where they got drafted or in Waters' case even if he didn't get drafted. They are ready to start their pro careers. Naz had ZERO intentions of ever staying here more than just 1 year, our own coach basically plainly said that.
This post was edited on 5/16/19 at 8:09 am
Posted on 5/16/19 at 8:09 am to madddoggydawg
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Shitting on great players that all the experts agreed should go pro. Wade has all our fans’ minds fricked.
I didn’t shite on him. I like reid and wish he could come back. I’m just stating what everyone else saw.
Posted on 5/16/19 at 8:11 am to lowhound
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I mean with the new rules, why wouldn't you want to put your name in the draft. You can hire an agent and have your travel and lodging expenses paid for to go to the combine and team workouts and still withdraw and play college. Seems like a pretty good thing to do after finals are over and you get good feedback from the pro scouts so you know what to work on with your game
Forgot about that.
Posted on 5/16/19 at 8:15 am to Icceytiger
I would pick him over Grant Williams who they have going 26.
Posted on 5/16/19 at 10:21 am to Manswers
Thought he hired an agent..
Posted on 5/16/19 at 10:24 am to NOSTRODAMUS
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When he put it on the floor in the post it was an automatic turnover.
This.
Posted on 5/16/19 at 10:24 am to Icceytiger
He was never who he thought he was . His current skilll set is 2/3 years away from being and good bench option in any team. He may well drop to mid to low 2nd when scouts see him at camps
Posted on 5/16/19 at 12:06 pm to Paul Allen
quote:Are you dumb?
By far and away, most consensus 5 star guys out of high school are pretty much first round locks. It’s been this way for a while now.
Posted on 5/16/19 at 12:23 pm to 4LSU2
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Naz got turrible advice to declare.
Lmao it wasn’t advice to declare...it didn’t matter what happened...Naz was a one and done this shouldn’t be hard to comprehend
Posted on 5/16/19 at 12:25 pm to Boudreau34
People are really shitting on Naz here, but he showed PLENTY to show he can be a Hell of a player in the NBA. It's like y'all forgot how dominate he could be.
Naz struggled with consistency. Sure, he could fix that with another year in college, but he showed more than enough to get drafted. He won't get drafted, go to the G-League and play for a year or two and disappear. The kid may start in the G-League but he will be a long time NBA player.
In SEC play, all games plus the SEC tourney, he averaged 14.5ppg, 8.2 rpg. That also includes the CLUNKER of a game against Tennessee when he scored 1 point AND he missed the Vandy game that he probably would have easily gotten a double double. People also forget how slow he started with rebounding the ball.
He has NBA range RIGHT NOW, and he will only develop it more and more. He is a great Stretch 4. He's not a post player, he will never be a post player. The college game is a bad fit for him because he's bigger than everyone so we felt forced to stick him in the post. He plays best when he crashes the boards and can pick and pop.
Naz struggled with consistency. Sure, he could fix that with another year in college, but he showed more than enough to get drafted. He won't get drafted, go to the G-League and play for a year or two and disappear. The kid may start in the G-League but he will be a long time NBA player.
In SEC play, all games plus the SEC tourney, he averaged 14.5ppg, 8.2 rpg. That also includes the CLUNKER of a game against Tennessee when he scored 1 point AND he missed the Vandy game that he probably would have easily gotten a double double. People also forget how slow he started with rebounding the ball.
He has NBA range RIGHT NOW, and he will only develop it more and more. He is a great Stretch 4. He's not a post player, he will never be a post player. The college game is a bad fit for him because he's bigger than everyone so we felt forced to stick him in the post. He plays best when he crashes the boards and can pick and pop.
Posted on 5/16/19 at 12:26 pm to PenguinPubes
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He was a projected lottery pick coming into college baw
Could be true, when he was playing against high schoolers
Posted on 5/16/19 at 12:30 pm to HTF4U
Naz is not ready
Posted on 5/16/19 at 12:43 pm to LSUButt
quote:true, but that's about it. Has no post moves at all. Struggles off the dribble where he looks completely off balance/out of control (he fell down more than any player I can recall). Doesn't seem to play strong, which is strange for a guy his size.
He has NBA range RIGHT NOW,
Yes, he has a great long range stroke and that's a big thing at his height. No question. But I didn't see much else this year. Maybe he'll develop it, but I was underwhelmed for the most part - but the bar was set pretty high for him as a 5* and probable one-and-done player.
Posted on 5/16/19 at 12:56 pm to Icceytiger
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he was sure fire 1st round lock..
I wish him the best, but anybody with eyeball could see Naz Reid was not yet NBA first round material.
About 50% of the rant verbalized this and the other 50% told them he would be a lottery pick and they knew nothing about basketball.
This post was edited on 5/16/19 at 1:03 pm
Posted on 5/16/19 at 12:59 pm to LSUButt
Reid's combine measurements aren't doing much to help him.
Height (w/o shoes): 6'8.75"
Weight: 255
Body fat%: 14.00% (worst by a large margin among all who measured. Second worst is 8.90%)
Now, to be fair, Zion didn't measure at the combine. I suspect his body fat would be high and he would probably be a bit shorter than advertised. However, we've already seen his off the charts athleticism. Thus, the weight and fat aren't a big concern. Reid doesn't have Zion's athleticism
Reid's wingspan was a really good 7'3"
I think it's clear he is very much a raw prospect both in build and skill. Coming in under 6'10" hurts, and the weight issue could give teams worry about his ability to play sustained minutes in an up-and-down game.
On the flip side, Waters measured at 5'9.5" (w/o shoes). Not great by any means, but probably better than what some my have speculated. He only measured an inch shorter than Carsen Edwards (who some have as a late 1st rounder). However, Edwards is still longer and stronger than Waters. It's no given by any means, but Waters could find his way into the 2nd round with a good combine performance.
Height (w/o shoes): 6'8.75"
Weight: 255
Body fat%: 14.00% (worst by a large margin among all who measured. Second worst is 8.90%)
Now, to be fair, Zion didn't measure at the combine. I suspect his body fat would be high and he would probably be a bit shorter than advertised. However, we've already seen his off the charts athleticism. Thus, the weight and fat aren't a big concern. Reid doesn't have Zion's athleticism
Reid's wingspan was a really good 7'3"
I think it's clear he is very much a raw prospect both in build and skill. Coming in under 6'10" hurts, and the weight issue could give teams worry about his ability to play sustained minutes in an up-and-down game.
On the flip side, Waters measured at 5'9.5" (w/o shoes). Not great by any means, but probably better than what some my have speculated. He only measured an inch shorter than Carsen Edwards (who some have as a late 1st rounder). However, Edwards is still longer and stronger than Waters. It's no given by any means, but Waters could find his way into the 2nd round with a good combine performance.
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