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re: Nate Oats situation relative to Will Wade's
Posted on 2/23/23 at 7:47 am to geauxtigers33
Posted on 2/23/23 at 7:47 am to geauxtigers33
Have you read my post?
The point is, Alabama is gong to stick with their coach and players even when involved in a much worse situation than providing money to families.
Alabama will make a strong run in the tourney this year and will continue to succeed under Oats.
What did Woodward do?
The point is, Alabama is gong to stick with their coach and players even when involved in a much worse situation than providing money to families.
Alabama will make a strong run in the tourney this year and will continue to succeed under Oats.
What did Woodward do?
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Posted on 2/23/23 at 7:51 am to alessic7
Nate Oates doesn’t have a pending NCAA investigation that could lead to him getting a show cause like Will Wade does.
Oates is guilty of making a questionable decision towards his best player but nothing he is doing is against NCAA rules.
Wade is under investigation for breaking NCAA rules.
ETA: I don’t necessarily agree with the Wade firing but I can understand why Woodward did what he did and also understand the Wade situation and the Oates/Miller situation are not the same thing.
Oates is guilty of making a questionable decision towards his best player but nothing he is doing is against NCAA rules.
Wade is under investigation for breaking NCAA rules.
ETA: I don’t necessarily agree with the Wade firing but I can understand why Woodward did what he did and also understand the Wade situation and the Oates/Miller situation are not the same thing.
This post was edited on 2/23/23 at 7:53 am
Posted on 2/23/23 at 8:21 am to MS_Tigers07
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the NCAA is toothless.
Everyone knew this
At the end of the day I think Scott used it all as an excuse to oust Wade and place in his own guy. Wade was ruffling the feathers of the old guard and holding the AD accountable for the shitty conditions of the facilities. Insert McMahon, sure we won’t win much but at least Collis is happy right ?
Posted on 2/23/23 at 8:27 am to BilJ
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Wade was ruffling the feathers of the old guard and holding the AD accountable for the shitty conditions of the facilities.
And it was shortsighted because the facilities issue isn't going away until they do something. With WBB and GYM operating at a high level and volleyball on the upswing, the reasons to improve the facilities keep growing. But you're going to kneecap the MBB program so that by the time you make the changes people will ask why should we reward this shitshow?
Posted on 2/23/23 at 8:28 am to alessic7
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Alabama is gong to stick with their coach and players even when involved in a much worse situation than providing money to families
Nate Oates is not responsible for what his player's do off of the court.
Will Wade was responsible for what his own self did off the court.
It's not that hard to understand
Posted on 2/23/23 at 8:29 am to alessic7
Not sure I follow the logic. Wade paid players from his own account and then discussed it personally through text and over the phone. I wish he were still at LSU but his undoing is really on him for being so careless.
While I understand the point with Oates, you really can only be held responsible for what your players do within your boundaries as a coach. Punishing a coach for what players do off the court (or field) sets a precedent.
That said, I do think there should have been another path forward with Wade other than firing him. McMahon is a fricking disaster.
While I understand the point with Oates, you really can only be held responsible for what your players do within your boundaries as a coach. Punishing a coach for what players do off the court (or field) sets a precedent.
That said, I do think there should have been another path forward with Wade other than firing him. McMahon is a fricking disaster.
Posted on 2/23/23 at 8:29 am to alessic7
You Wade apologists need to fade away. He's not here, and he's not coming back. Move on.
Posted on 2/23/23 at 8:34 am to alessic7
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I'm making a comparison because of the media clout that was sprung on both them in the middle of successful seasons.
I no longer live in Louisiana, so I don't know what the media there said about Wade. The national media did not talk about LSU.
The issue in Alabama is all over the national news.
Posted on 2/23/23 at 8:38 am to chinhoyang
You’re still holding the bag for Johnny Jones. Shut up
Posted on 2/23/23 at 8:41 am to cas4t
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Wade paid players from his own account and then disc
While dumb, this was at VCU and LSU knew about it. Nothing actually new came out in the NCAA findings that was news to LSU, they just pretended it was
Posted on 2/23/23 at 8:57 am to NebraskaExPat
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The national media did not talk about LSU.
Are Pat Forde and Dick Vitale not national media?
Posted on 2/23/23 at 9:14 am to cas4t
quote:good points being made here. My issue with the whole thing is on strictly moral grounds, what's going on at Bama is way worse in comparison to anything that went on at LSU and LSU chooses not to stick with their coach and loses out.
you really can only be held responsible for what your players do within your boundaries as a coach
Bama is going to do what it takes to stick with their guy that has proven he can win and I wanted that for LSU basketball.
And fwiw, LSU did suspend Javonte for a short period of time, albeit under Alleva's leadership.
Posted on 2/23/23 at 10:39 am to ProjectP2294
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Are Pat Forde and Dick Vitale not national media?
Sorry. By national media, I should have said the major news networks.
The Alabama situation has made the networks' nightly news and the cable news networks.
LSU's firing of Wade was limited to sports networks.
Poor wording by me.
Posted on 2/23/23 at 10:59 am to MS_Tigers07
But what if we keep Wade, and you're wrong?
Posted on 2/23/23 at 11:20 am to LSBoosie
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but are you actually trying to compare those two situations?
Exactly what Oats is doing is way more egregious and just shitty than anything Wade was accused of.
Posted on 2/23/23 at 11:22 am to Lester Earl
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Nate Oates is not responsible for what his player's do off of the court.
He's absolutely responsible for holding them accountable....Miller shouldn't see another game in an Alabama jersey.
Posted on 2/23/23 at 12:13 pm to alessic7
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nsane that a coach with players who were accessories to murder will continue to play on.
Hell man Ray Lewis is considered a legend and a hero.
Posted on 2/23/23 at 1:06 pm to Tiger Ugly
Miller goes pro after this season, right?
Posted on 2/23/23 at 1:08 pm to NebraskaExPat
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Sorry. By national media, I should have said the major news networks.
The Alabama situation has made the networks' nightly news and the cable news networks.
LSU's firing of Wade was limited to sports networks.
Oh yeah, the Alabama situation has transcended sports.
Posted on 2/23/23 at 1:14 pm to ProjectP2294
It's obvious that most of us LSU fans would like to see Nate Oats go down.
This post was edited on 2/23/23 at 1:21 pm
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