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re: Nabers and Daniels Stats, Nationally Ranked
Posted on 9/26/23 at 7:48 am to Adam Banks
Posted on 9/26/23 at 7:48 am to Adam Banks
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If hes late on his reads or he cant throw a deep ball then who can?
Nobody! They're asking for him to be perfect. It's like they haven't even been watching football. Do they see the QBs NFL teams are trotting out on the fields?
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Posted on 9/26/23 at 7:55 am to GeauxBoi
There is NO player that doesn't need to improve. That isn't the argument here. It's the JD bashers that come on after EVERY game to point out the 3-4 "bad" throws and ignore the 15-20 good throws. There will be games against better competition where the team may struggle but if he makes enough plays to win that is all that is important. And I can assure you if he struggles one game the haters will come out and demand Nuss be the starter. As if Nuss would never struggle in a game.
Posted on 9/26/23 at 8:03 am to JimTiger72
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Y’all still reaching with this “1st half” bs
29 minutes into the game, JD was like, 7/14 for 70 yards, 1 pick and 2 sacks.
How in the flying frick is that reaching?
That is an objectively horrible stat line.
Posted on 9/26/23 at 8:07 am to wadewilson
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That is an objectively horrible stat line.
And deserves criticism. But the calls to bench him were ridiculous. In what world does your established starter live on such a razor’s edge where a bad half should automatically get you benched? That’s what people are pointing out as ridiculous.
This post was edited on 9/26/23 at 8:08 am
Posted on 9/26/23 at 8:19 am to Adam Banks
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I mean what more do you want?
A well thrown ball that is not underthrown.
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We have played 4 games 3 vs teams from P5 conferences.
Meaningless stat is meaningless. We played 1 good team, FSU. MSU is garbage. Ark is garbage. No one gives a shite if you beat a shite team in the P5.
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He is one of the best passers in the nation.
Statistically, right now, he is. But, as with every thread every single year, it would be nice if he would hit his receivers in stride. The deep balls last week weren't good. I'm not saying he can't be a great QB, but i wouldn't annoint him the next Joe Burrow until we played quality competition. You guys are so sensitive about Daniels, it's rather humorous.
ETA: you guys sound like the Les Miles apologists. "What does it matter, we still won". Look how well that turned out.
This post was edited on 9/26/23 at 8:20 am
Posted on 9/26/23 at 8:22 am to BeeFense5
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In what world does your established starter live on such a razor’s edge where a bad half should automatically get you benched?
I think it's his inconsistency that is the issue. We all saw last year. Daniels played fantastic one game, then atrocious the next. I wasn't quite ready to put in Nuss at half time, but another shitty 3rd quarter and it may have been too late to come back. QB loyalty is fine, but not at the expense of losing.
Posted on 9/26/23 at 8:22 am to BeeFense5
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But the calls to bench him were ridiculous.
No, that's not fair, but you can't blame people for some knee-jerk reactions when he goes almost an entire half making the same silly mistakes he has for 5 years.
At this point, he's done enough to earn a lot of leeway.
And yes, I would like to see Nuss if Daniels plays a whole horrible game then comes in a week later just as flat.
Posted on 9/26/23 at 8:43 am to Shiftyplus1
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In a 12 game season, Nabers is on pace for 1,572 yards and 12 TDs.
Daniels is on pace for 3,888 yards and 36 TD
With the emergence of Diggs the offense can be more efficient and even more prolific.
Posted on 9/26/23 at 9:02 am to Oilfieldbiology
quote:seen people saying this - he was 4/7 for 93 yards and a TD in the 2nd quarter, so really y'all only mean the 1st quarter. He was elite the last 3 quarters.
If he plays like the first half? Yep.
Posted on 9/26/23 at 9:04 am to iamandykeim
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he was 4/7 for 93 yards and a TD in the 2nd quarter, so really y'all only mean the 1st quarter. He was elite the last 3 quarters.
He was elite the last 31 minutes.
Posted on 9/26/23 at 9:07 am to Shiftyplus1
Fluff games guys, come in
Posted on 9/26/23 at 12:00 pm to Shiftyplus1
But but but he still doesn’t always throw perfect passes. I know what most reasonable fans are going to say, who does? lolol
Posted on 9/26/23 at 12:12 pm to mcspufftiger7
Man, there are some HARSH QB critics on this site when not every throw is perfect. I'm honestly not sure if it's due to a lack of watching other QBs around the country or what, but I promise our guy is a pretty good thrower and an elite runner. He's not perfect, but I've definitely been pleased by the improvement in game to game consistency this year.
Posted on 9/26/23 at 12:24 pm to DallasTiger45
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Man, there are some HARSH QB critics on this site when not every throw is perfect. I'm honestly not sure if it's due to a lack of watching other QBs around the country or what
I guarantee the shite posters on here who criticize Daniels against Arkansas are not aware of the reigning Heisman Caleb William’s game against Arizona State this weekend.
In a game where USC was a 35 pt favorite, they only win by 14.
Williams was 20/31 for 322 & 3 TDs
Compared to Daniels 20/29 for 320 & 4 TDs
You think USC fans are criticizing his 11 incompletions too?
This post was edited on 9/26/23 at 12:25 pm
Posted on 9/26/23 at 1:58 pm to JimTiger72
Also that first half he ran the ball more than all the rbs combined... they gotta get Diggs and Jackson going early to open up the offense even more
Posted on 9/26/23 at 3:08 pm to BugAC
There is absolutely no basis for ever putting Nuss in. These “critics” need to sober up. There is no factual support for putting in a backup who has never been impressive in an actual game. The kid can’t win the job in practice and is underwhelming in games.
So,does it matter how Daniels plays in the first half or even if he has a bad game? He is, without doubt, the better QB and our best chance at winning.
So,does it matter how Daniels plays in the first half or even if he has a bad game? He is, without doubt, the better QB and our best chance at winning.
Posted on 9/26/23 at 3:14 pm to BugAC
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Meaningless stat is meaningless. We played 1 good team, FSU. MSU is garbage. Ark is garbage. No one gives a shite if you beat a shite team in the P5.
It’s included because he has played as many or more P5 games as any qb in the nation. Therefore his national rankings are comparable
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i wouldn't annoint him the next Joe Burrow until we played quality competition.
Who the hell said he was Joe Burrow?
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But, as with every thread every single year, it would be nice if he would hit his receivers in stride.
First of all he does fairly routinely.
Second of all I don’t think you watch much football if you think he’s substandard in this. He is one of the best in college at this.
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you guys sound like the Les Miles apologists. "What does it matter, we still won". Look how well that turned out.
This isn’t an argument of “the guy just wins”
This is an argument that by all objective measures he’s an elite qb in college this year.
Posted on 9/26/23 at 3:39 pm to Oilfieldbiology
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If he plays like the first half? Yep.
If he plays like the second half or MSU game? Nope.
If he plays like the first half and you bench him, you don't get the second half.
Posted on 9/26/23 at 3:57 pm to wadewilson
He was 20/29 for 320 yds and 4 TDs
Yea y’all need to STFU about him already.
If Nuss was a better QB then he’d be in the damn game.
Yea y’all need to STFU about him already.
If Nuss was a better QB then he’d be in the damn game.
Posted on 9/26/23 at 4:00 pm to Adam Banks
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If hes late on his reads or he cant throw a deep ball then who can?
Most of his deep passes have been underthrown forcing the WR wait for the ball. That's a fact. The good news is that he has WRs who can win those battles, even if the throws aren't great. And it is MUCH better than overthrowing wide open WRs.
The best news though is that he is actually throwing those passes. Last year he would not have done it. He's still waiting about a second or two to long to throw it because he is making sure the WR is open rather than letting it go when the WR is even with the DB (which means the WR is going to beat him). But I'd much rather see him throw them and come up a bit short than not throw them at all.
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