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My only request for next year: run some plays from under center.

Posted on 12/23/22 at 8:25 am
Posted by Slippy
Across the rivah
Member since Aug 2005
6583 posts
Posted on 12/23/22 at 8:25 am
You know, like on the goal line. Or when it’s fourth and inches. The shotgun bullshite in those situations is ridiculous. It told me they hadn’t practiced a QB sneak and didn’t trust the snap exchange.

That said, I’m glad JD is back. He is the man.
Posted by TigerDat
Member since Aug 2010
7630 posts
Posted on 12/23/22 at 8:32 am to
Yea, it's maddening to watch a team only need 1 yard and line up the qb 4 yards off the ball.

I get that the I form power run offense is a thing of the past but geeze a qb sneak under center is 99% guaranteed to get 1 yard when needed.
Posted by BatonrougeCajun
Somewhere in Texas
Member since Feb 2008
6061 posts
Posted on 12/23/22 at 8:34 am to
If you are going to do it, you need to do it as a regular part of your offense. It doesn’t seem like it but everything changes from qb steps to the timing of plays. You can’t just jump into it and expect it to be smooth
Posted by TigerDat
Member since Aug 2010
7630 posts
Posted on 12/23/22 at 8:35 am to
quote:

you are going to do it, you need to do it as a regular part of your offense. It doesn’t seem like it but everything changes from qb steps to the timing of plays. You can’t just jump into it and expect it to be smooth


If it is practiced, it will be fine.
Posted by Tiger Ugly
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2008
14503 posts
Posted on 12/23/22 at 8:36 am to
That is a HUGE pet-peeve of mine. And we are far and away not the only team that runs out of shotgun in short yardage - but that don't make it right.
Posted by Methuselah
On da Riva
Member since Jan 2005
23350 posts
Posted on 12/23/22 at 8:38 am to
Definitely. You have to be able to execute a QB sneak.
Posted by LSUlefty
Youngsville, LA
Member since Dec 2007
26453 posts
Posted on 12/23/22 at 8:39 am to
Can run some good play action under center
Posted by BatonrougeCajun
Somewhere in Texas
Member since Feb 2008
6061 posts
Posted on 12/23/22 at 8:40 am to
quote:

If it is practiced, it will be fine.


For sure, but what do you take time away from? Only so many hours in a day and you can’t be great at everything. So many teams got away from pro style offenses because there was so much stuff to it and so much to learn and know. The Revolution of offensive football is rooted in the simplicity of what offenses do these days giving guys a ton of practice getting really good at a couple of things
Posted by ChEgrad
Member since Nov 2012
3265 posts
Posted on 12/23/22 at 8:42 am to
There have been two quarterbacks that could be counted on for short yardage from the shotgun formation - Tim Tebow and Cam Newton. That is just about it. The rest should be under center.
Posted by CAS7659
NOLA
Member since Dec 2021
319 posts
Posted on 12/23/22 at 8:45 am to
This. And defer every FN time!
Posted by geauxtigahs87
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2008
26267 posts
Posted on 12/23/22 at 8:46 am to
Nah, let's continue to run zone read on every single 4th and 1.

Especially when facing elite Dlines.
Posted by bearhc
Member since Sep 2009
4939 posts
Posted on 12/23/22 at 8:50 am to
In addition, Cain always needs to be our short yardage back.
Posted by CAT
Central Arkansas
Member since Aug 2006
7083 posts
Posted on 12/23/22 at 8:51 am to
quote:

For sure, but what do you take time away from? Only so many hours in a day and you can’t be great at everything. So many teams got away from pro style offenses because there was so much stuff to it and so much to learn and know. The Revolution of offensive football is rooted in the simplicity of what offenses do these days giving guys a ton of practice getting really good at a couple of things




You're practicing one play. Literally take 2 minutes from practice couple times a week and run it a couple times.
Absolutely asinine not to have a sneak in the playbook.
Posted by Broyota2
Member since Nov 2010
13065 posts
Posted on 12/23/22 at 8:51 am to
quote:

I get that the I form power run offense is a thing of the past but geeze a qb sneak under center is 99% guaranteed to get 1 yard when needed.



99% is a stretch but yes it is more efficient probably.
Posted by LSBoosie
Member since Jun 2020
7832 posts
Posted on 12/23/22 at 8:55 am to
JJ Watt himself has said that it is nearly impossible to stop a QB sneak when the offense needs to gain a yard or less.
Posted by Fat Bastard
coach, investor, gambler
Member since Mar 2009
72682 posts
Posted on 12/23/22 at 9:01 am to
quote:

Can run some good play action under center




absolutely. matt canada stressed this also. some of the best PA comes from ACE formations. love the gun to buy time and make them defend pass more but ACE formations are good from time to time also. keep them guessing.
Posted by BatonrougeCajun
Somewhere in Texas
Member since Feb 2008
6061 posts
Posted on 12/23/22 at 9:03 am to
quote:

You're practicing one play. Literally take 2 minutes from practice couple times a week and run it a couple times.


I get why it seems that simple but it’s really not.

Can you imagine this place the first time lsu fumbled from under center at the 1 yard line?

I’m not against it I’m just saying if you go under it needs to be a part of what you do all the time
Posted by Sir Fury
Member since Jan 2015
4572 posts
Posted on 12/23/22 at 9:04 am to
College offenses almost never run from under center. It’s not just an LSU thing. It’s across the board. As stated above, there’s only so much allotted time to practice. Every new thing takes time away from something else. And college offenses are predicated on simplicity. Running from under center is an entirely new set of techniques that would need to be practiced repeatedly, every week, just in case you need it. I’m not saying they shouldn’t, but I understand why they don’t.
Posted by Nate711
Mississippi
Member since Oct 2017
146 posts
Posted on 12/23/22 at 9:09 am to
The QB sneak works.. All you have to do is watch the NFL a little to see that. To not have it in your offense is lazy to me
Posted by Swampcat
Member since Dec 2003
10250 posts
Posted on 12/23/22 at 9:10 am to
Especially when it’s 4th and an inch!!!
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