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re: Mr. McMahon's Introductory Press Conference (Live Link)
Posted on 3/23/22 at 2:54 pm to Bottom9
Posted on 3/23/22 at 2:54 pm to Bottom9
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I worry about that moral compass when it comes recruiting. I have no doubts that he is an incredible man. I just hope he is an incredible man who isn't afraid to get in the mud with Cal, Pearl, Muss, fig Oats, Barnes, Beard, Moser, etc. He can be as good of a coach as any but we won't win here without playing the game (in an undetectable way). There is only so much NIL can do. Mens BB will still be dirty NIL or not
This is my biggest concern. I have concerns over whether he can get the talent here. If he gets them here, can he coach players at that level.
From an X's and O's standpoint, I like him. But you can't win in the SEC by recruiting good 3 stars and overachieving.
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Posted on 3/23/22 at 2:58 pm to ellessuuuu
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We will be in the bottom half of the conference in recruiting and at best middle tier on the court. 5-10 year set back after firing Wade...
Wow. Call me a sunshine pumper, but let’s see what happens before we assume the worst possible scenario. No harm in being optimistic.
Posted on 3/23/22 at 2:59 pm to ellessuuuu
Man some of you need to chill out. There’s more than one type of coach. You don’t need to be all kinds of rambunctious and loud to succeed. I could argue 3/4 of the 5 greatest college basketball coaches of all time would put you to sleep if you had to listen to them lecture for to long.
Posted on 3/23/22 at 3:00 pm to S
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remember Saban’s first press conference Someone jokingly (br media ho-ho!)asked if he had ever tried gumbo. Saban gave some super analytical answer about how he hadn’t
Saban’s press conference was dry AF lol. But It was actually what I wanted to hear.
Posted on 3/23/22 at 3:02 pm to CP3forMVP
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I could argue 3/4 of the 5 greatest college basketball coaches of all time would put you to sleep if you had to listen to them lecture for to long.
Which ones?
A younger Coach K, Bobby Knight, and Rick Pitino would not fit into that category.
This post was edited on 3/23/22 at 3:04 pm
Posted on 3/23/22 at 3:06 pm to Choupique19
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Dinardo and Wade could be a good comparison. Both brought a lot of enthusiasm back to their sport. Both recruited well and brought in good players. Both started out hot, but fizzled after a few years.
I don't know if I would go that far. Both took over program mired in apathy. Dinardo did "bring back the magic"...for 3 years. Then, he didn't just "fizzle". He flat out sucked and brought the program back to the level it had been before he was hired. Wade won the SEC with a tremendous season in year 2. He didn't repeat that season in the 3 years that followed. But he didn't suck either. You could argue this was Wade's "worst" season...and it still resulted in a NCAA Tournament appearance as a #6 seed. That, in a year LSU was picked to finish 6th or 7th (depending on which publication you read) in the SEC. And, before he was fired, he was set to return several players from this year's roster, including the guy (Miller) who would have likely been his leading scorer had he not been injured, along with multiple 5 star recruits.
Dinardo was a quick peak, then even quicker collapse. Wade, while he didn't get to the top, never collapsed either.
Posted on 3/23/22 at 3:07 pm to ellessuuuu
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This is my biggest concern. I have concerns over whether he can get the talent here. If he gets them here, can he coach players at that level.
Honestly. It reminds me of Trent Johnson a bit with our initial perception of him. Please prove me wrong Coach McMahon. Please.
Everyone raved about Trent's morals and we had some in here posting back in the day about Trent always iterating that he would not play the dirty recruiting game. He was a good X's and O's coach but recruiting did him in.
No matter who likes, hates, loves, overwhelmed, whelmed, etc each individual is about the hire, recruiting is something that is a complete unknown at this level and we have to talk about. It is single handedly his one attribute that we know nothing about on this level.
The way Tate and woodward talked about his qualities as a man stood out. That's awesome and great but I feel like at worst we went for the moral first choice. I get it but that stood out. I'm still buying in because I want us to be good really badly.
Who knows maybe ole McMahon will pull the moral compass card and be as intense as Wade was off the court in his pursuit of players. I truly hope he does. It would be delicious to have a man with a great reputation on and off the court but a damn assassin in targeting recruits. Somehow Forde and Dick would find a way to blow it up though.
This post was edited on 3/23/22 at 3:10 pm
Posted on 3/23/22 at 3:10 pm to Bottom9
no nonsense he seems a straight shooter.
Not a lot of humor and in the AAU world
wonder how he operates
Will reup my season tickets and see
Not a lot of humor and in the AAU world
wonder how he operates
Will reup my season tickets and see
Posted on 3/23/22 at 3:12 pm to CP3forMVP
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Man some of you need to chill out. There’s more than one type of coach. You don’t need to be all kinds of rambunctious and loud to succeed. I could argue 3/4 of the 5 greatest college basketball coaches of all time would put you to sleep if you had to listen to them lecture for to long.
What the hell are you talking about? What does "rambunctious and loud" have to do with recruiting? My concern is whether he can recruit at a high enough level to succeed in the SEC.
I could care less what his demeanor is.
Posted on 3/23/22 at 3:14 pm to ellessuuuu
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What the hell are you talking about? What does "rambunctious and loud" have to do with recruiting? My concern is whether he can recruit at a high enough level to succeed in the SEC.
I could care less what his demeanor is.
I wasn't replying to you, which is why I didn't quote your post in mine. Move along...
Posted on 3/23/22 at 3:15 pm to sweetwaterbilly
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I liked the presser, but I could certainly see how the lack of enthusiasm/excitement could concern some folks. That said, if McMahon wins, none of us will remember our thoughts on the press conference.
I choose to be a glass half full kinda guy: the money we save not having to pay a "get back coach" for McMahon can be put towards buying recruits. We'll just be more hush-hush about it this time around.
Posted on 3/23/22 at 3:17 pm to CP3forMVP
My mistake, it was a reply to my post.
Posted on 3/23/22 at 3:21 pm to Ingeniero
a lot of recruiting will also rely on the assistants he will hire. Those are the guys who will get into the muck of the dirtiness.
Posted on 3/23/22 at 3:21 pm to Bottom9
It is extremely disappointing. It feels like they hired the guy that was not going to create any problems (mainly for football).
Recruiting at a high level and winning seem to be down the list of priorities. When it comes to LSU basketball, we just cannot get out of our own way.
Recruiting at a high level and winning seem to be down the list of priorities. When it comes to LSU basketball, we just cannot get out of our own way.
Posted on 3/23/22 at 3:22 pm to ellessuuuu
Posted on 3/23/22 at 3:26 pm to S
I'm very impressed with McMahon.
LSU has got a winner.
LSU has got a winner.
Posted on 3/23/22 at 3:31 pm to S
Get Tyrus Thomas on staff with Tasmin Mitchell for recruiting!
Posted on 3/23/22 at 4:01 pm to GumboPot
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And by keeping Wade and fighting the NCAA we were probably looking at a 2-4 year setback. But the upside would be greater IMO.
I feel the same way! Let him take his punishment and move forward.
Posted on 3/23/22 at 4:02 pm to GeorgeTheGreek
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Wade’s intro Presser vs this.
I think he is the right guy at the right time. He presented himself very professionally and I don't think now is the time for a big promotional "rah rah" press conference. That said, I like his confidence and his vision for things to come. So, everybody just give him a chance and look forward to the future (minus the NCAA and its slow process/impact)!
Posted on 3/23/22 at 4:15 pm to ellessuuuu
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It is extremely disappointing. It feels like they hired the guy that was not going to create any problems (mainly for football). Recruiting at a high level and winning seem to be down the list of priorities. When it comes to LSU basketball, we just cannot get out of our own way.
Oh, shut up!
This is coming from someone who was ready to run through a brick wall after Wade’s introductory press conference. There is more than one way to skin a cat.
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